Stanley Meyer Explained

[HMS-776]

The difference between H2OPOWERs work and others, is he is willing to show the math that proves the energy available.

[Gre]

I think explaining Stan Meyer is a complete waste of time. Especially since he couldn't even explain his technologies with enough detail for anyone to build a working replication.... And the information in the patents are pretty much worthless for building a replication.. Everyone I think knows this by now.

How about you build a working replication then explain it later?

Geezz... No need to be rude and combative H2Opower... All I'm saying is the there are 100s of people just like yourself with theories on how Stan Meyer's system should work (when in fact they don't). What makes you think yours is so special?

A working replication is worth 1000000 theories.

[Digits]

Hi H20

Listen nice one on the photies it looks great my aproach is a little diffrent but I suppose thats the idea right.

If some one can answer me it would be great.This is just a general question though.
Stan explains the EEC on one of his videos and says that one volt will extract one amp out of the gas gun how on earth does this work?
some one on the thread said that I dont know how many moles of oxygen = to 100amps ( meaning allot of electrons right) how do we calculate it?
I have built a eec with onley 3KV but onley manage to generate a large static voltage in the reagon of 20KV.
BUt I dont know how to make any use with this voltage or convert it to amps to do some useful work.
I have seen how hey explain feul cells and there are onley 2 electrons used for every 2 hydrogens and 1 oxygen but we are extracting lots more am I right.but how do I get the electrons to do some desent work?
Mabe this is a stupid question to some of you but I really struggle to understand this.
THanks and keep up the good work

Digits

[h20power]

Just some more pics of my version of Stanley Meyer's Gas Processor:




The whole thing should be completed very soon so I have my work cut out for me in the next few months as I match a VIC coil to it and make the controling electronics to go along with it for the whole system in preperation for the switch over from gasoline to water as a fuel source. It's only a matter of time now for the math of all of this has been shown and it checks out just fine. Enjoy breaking the chains of the energy enslavement game everyone


h2opower.

[h20power]

I think explaining Stan Meyer is a complete waste of time. Especially since he couldn't even explain his technologies with enough detail for anyone to build a working replication.... And the information in the patents are pretty much worthless for building a replication.. Everyone I think knows this by now.

How about you build a working replication then explain it later?

Since you can't read, why write? Is it a lack of understanding, or just pure lazyness that you posted this crap on my thread? Are you suppose to be the heart beat of everyone that reads this, knowing what they think, how they feel. Are you so pig-headed that you actually think you speak for more than yourself? The math I posted is real, just because you don't understand it you fight it. And on the latter of your statement I am already on it.


h2opower.

[Gre]

I think explaining Stan Meyer is a complete waste of time. Especially since he couldn't even explain his technologies with enough detail for anyone to build a working replication.... And the information in the patents are pretty much worthless for building a replication.. Everyone I think knows this by now.

How about you build a working replication then explain it later?

[pmazz850]

vic core supplier?

Can anyone recommend a place to get the ec120 core needed for vic? Or possibly a different option for the core?

[h20power]

if the supply of processed ionized air/exhaust/water in the injector was 60 drops for example... (just a fixed quantity, (only enough to completely fill the space / gap surrounding the taper cavity on each injector)) at a few degrees before TDC on the engine (just before the suction of the piston occurs and during the previous exhaust cycle)) at this dead zone we then use the normal distributor cap with its dwell of 6-10 degrees ( thats why you need the schmitt trigger in the modified distributor) to send a long duration high frequency high voltage pulse from the vic to the cavity in the injector... assuming the water/air mixture is not being refreshed (because the pump is also pulsing according to the trigger in the distributor), the fuel becomes oxygen and hydrogen gas and a spark will result at the sharp tip (remember highvoltage likes sharp corners...) at the end of the injector AS SOON AS THE LIQUID BECOMES A GAS AND NO LONGER CONDUCTS (CAPACITANCE STARTS SHOOTING THRU THE ROOF) RESULTING IN A SPIKE OF CURRENT AT THE BREAKDOWN VOLTAGE THAT IGNITES THE MIXTURE. since the small hole (ring) of space at the end of the injector is much smaller than the combustion chamber its easier to move the piston down than it is for the flame energy to go backwards thru the injector (think surface area ratios). and because the oxygen atoms are in a higher electron state when they mix with the water less energy is used for the gas production in the taper resonant cavity and more is available for the spark. all of this occurs between 3 degrees BTDC and 10 degrees ATDC on the piston stroke.
The race car engines that run on turbocharged hydrogen use 15 degrees ATDC timing for their sparks, for optimum power because hydrogen explodes so quickly. it has a different power curve (sweet spot) than gasoline. This is one reason why all the experimenters out there using hydroxy boosters arent seeing the mileage gains, they explode the hydrogen in some cases BEFORE the piston chas crossed over the TDC mark, actually getting worse mileage... so the whole system must be designed to power a car... it wont work on a regular engine with standard ignition timing settings. im sure when Stan ran his VW engine on the electrolyser, he had to massage the timing settings using regular spark plugs!

Stanley Meyer used the recirculated exhaust gases to solve that problem in what he calls, "slowing the burn rate of hydrogen." It's all in the patent.


h2opower.

[sebosfato]

Stan used like direct injection witch is only now after more 20 years being used on gasoline vehicles, it is more efficient and you probably won't need the non combustible gases, the combustible is injected after the compression during explosion like a fire gun. Is very clear looking at his drawings.

[TRON]

sparks

HMS-776,
This is one thing I didn't understand. As for igniting the mix, is the normal coil supposed to piggy back the pulsing coil? It would have to stop the pulsing for a second ,wouldn't it?
Couldn't the injector be located on the fuel rail where the old gasoline injectors went, retaining the spark plugs for normal ignition?

if the supply of processed ionized air/exhaust/water in the injector was 60 drops for example... (just a fixed quantity, (only enough to completely fill the space / gap surrounding the taper cavity on each injector)) at a few degrees before TDC on the engine (just before the suction of the piston occurs and during the previous exhaust cycle)) at this dead zone we then use the normal distributor cap with its dwell of 6-10 degrees ( thats why you need the schmitt trigger in the modified distributor) to send a long duration high frequency high voltage pulse from the vic to the cavity in the injector... assuming the water/air mixture is not being refreshed (because the pump is also pulsing according to the trigger in the distributor), the fuel becomes oxygen and hydrogen gas and a spark will result at the sharp tip (remember highvoltage likes sharp corners...) at the end of the injector AS SOON AS THE LIQUID BECOMES A GAS AND NO LONGER CONDUCTS (CAPACITANCE STARTS SHOOTING THRU THE ROOF) RESULTING IN A SPIKE OF CURRENT AT THE BREAKDOWN VOLTAGE THAT IGNITES THE MIXTURE. since the small hole (ring) of space at the end of the injector is much smaller than the combustion chamber its easier to move the piston down than it is for the flame energy to go backwards thru the injector (think surface area ratios). and because the oxygen atoms are in a higher electron state when they mix with the water less energy is used for the gas production in the taper resonant cavity and more is available for the spark. all of this occurs between 3 degrees BTDC and 10 degrees ATDC on the piston stroke.
The race car engines that run on turbocharged hydrogen use 15 degrees ATDC timing for their sparks, for optimum power because hydrogen explodes so quickly. it has a different power curve (sweet spot) than gasoline. This is one reason why all the experimenters out there using hydroxy boosters arent seeing the mileage gains, they explode the hydrogen in some cases BEFORE the piston chas crossed over the TDC mark, actually getting worse mileage... so the whole system must be designed to power a car... it wont work on a regular engine with standard ignition timing settings. im sure when Stan ran his VW engine on the electrolyser, he had to massage the timing settings using regular spark plugs!

[handyandy]

Reopulation inversion

Here is proof by experiment that light can produce matter:

SCIENCE Online -- Ehrenstein 277 (5330):1202

Be careful of the gamma rays you might produce in your hydrogen gas guns.

Regards,
Andy

[h20power]

This might be what Stan was attempting:

Population inversion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"If the number of photons being amplified per unit time is greater than the number of photons being absorbed, then the net result is a continuously increasing number of photons being produced; the laser medium is said to have a gain of greater than unity."

That's just an excerpt there's more information in the article. That's just what jumped out at me.

Regards,
Andy

That is a very interesting artical indeed. Seems to explain a lot of what is thought to be going on here with the Gas Processor. But the addition of the EEC makes all the difference in the world. It also tell of the importantanec to use the frequencies that target the atoms absorbtion wavelenths. Nice find Andy.

h2opower.

[sebosfato]

Very nice your Gas processor. I think stanley meyer just patented that but is not the intent of a project like this to make cars that consume water, i mean don't reform the water molecule. I'm quite sure is possible to make hydrogen enough with stans methods too.

I'm discussing his pll design here help Feedback winding for resonance with pll 4046 - Electronic Circuits Projects Diagrams Free

I came up with some values for the pll circuit and now needs only few time to get the thing working.

[handyandy]

population inversion

This might be what Stan was attempting:

Population inversion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"If the number of photons being amplified per unit time is greater than the number of photons being absorbed, then the net result is a continuously increasing number of photons being produced; the laser medium is said to have a gain of greater than unity."

That's just an excerpt there's more information in the article. That's just what jumped out at me.

Regards,
Andy

[h20power]

At the bottom of the link it will give the numbers of the wavelengths you have to click on it, and as an added bouns I gave an extra one at 777.19 nm or I think that is what I posted. Yes the nitrogen will get ionized too as well as anything else that travels through the Gas Processor. Any dust will be pent to the cathode so make sure you have a good air filter or you will be cleaning it out a lot. Digits design looks great too, and looks more towards something NASA would build I have seen others that curved the LEDs inside of the chamber and still others that are using needle tips to ionize the air. The possibilities are endless it seems, can we out do Stanley Meyer? With the advances in LEDs alone we sure can. How you will know it is working is the EEC will power up the load device you placed on it. Plus there are many other ways someone else just put a match inside and turned it on and the match got brighter or you can place it inline with an hho torch, but best make sure it wont spark inside first or you could blow up you Gas Processor inaverdently.

On ionizing the other gases we are not focusing the coherent light energy on the other atoms just the oxygen atoms. So, if what Stanley Meyer said was correct the other atoms will relax back to their normal state but the oxygen will not for we will be picking on them and not giving them a break of anykind. As for the other questions of what Meyer was trying to do I haven't the foggest, but I do know that the rules of science will alwasy apply.

Well, that's it of now,
cheak with yas' latter.

h2opower.