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  • djzissis
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    Originally posted by h20power View Post
    Thanks,
    Yes in Stanley Meyer design he used both photonic and electrical energy to strip electrons from the oxygen atom. My original design did call for four different types of LEDs but one was very expensive so what you are really seeing is three different types of LEDs ones that I am going to give a try. Remember it is the oxygen we are aiming at so choose the wavelengths that effect oxygen. 73 wavelengths can be found here but there are more: Spectra of Gas Discharges.
    The problem is we don't know which ones are for what ionization levels so all of us have to guess on this one. The is the main reason I wont share which wavelengths I am using for I guessed too and don't want anyone getting mad if they don't work well and trying to point the finger towards me. All have to remember this is the first time this part of Stanley Meyer's water for fuel technology has been built in since before the mans death. I like the Gas Processor design digit is making personally, but I will keep to my own thoughts and create it the best way I can and not copy his. This way we get may get two different designs that both work and that is why I encurage everyone to make their own Gas Processors so we get even more different types of designs that also might work.
    Nice Link..!!

    For sure this needs testing, but how do we know exactly the every wavelength of every highlighted color in this range??...:
    (oxygen)
    Something I want to add here is that in the Stanley Meyer's papers, he says clearly that he uses in the Laser Accelerator ASS'Y that he uses 932nm LEDs and near kind phototransistors to be triggered by these LEDs.
    I don't know if this has something to do with the Gas Processor ASS'Y.
    An other idea is to find some LEDs that can change the light wavelength. But how we know when the Gas Processor is working effectively??

    Stan Meyer says about non-combustable gases. The air is full of Nitrogen, right??
    So did Stanley found a way to control the oxygen coming from the air (and then ionize it), and the amount of Nitrogen he uses from the air (maybe ionized too).??


    I like Planck's law and tried to put it to use as best I could, but like I said earlier in the end I had to make a "best guess" as to which wavelengths should work the best. Yes it is delrin but I think natrual nylon would have been better. But I was trying like hell to keep the cost down this thing was not cheap and more than one had to be made or it wouldn't have been made at all. Now on to the next stage and get the electronics built and the unit installed in a car for testing. I am also working on the injectors, but there is nothing to show about them as of yet.

    Remember the title is "Stanley Meyer Explained" I did not say anything about showing but only to provide a clear explainatoin as to how it all worked, in doing it this way it forces everyone to think and come up with as many different designs as there are people viewing all of this imagine over 21k different designs that all work. Is there only one type of car in the world of course not so why should there be only one type of design here, after all it is to take the place of fossile fuels right? So we need as many different design as we can get and that is where all of you come in making your own designs so when the time comes to take over it will be done with ease. For we will be competing with each other just like all of the many different car companies are doing right now, plus it goes one further and steps into power genaration and distribution. This is only the beginings of a world wide transformation and I wellcome all designs. For our end goal is enegy independence for all, so we can start the hard work of cleaning up the mess we have made of the planet thus far.
    Your effort is very good my friend.!! You didn't mention anything about showing your works, and no one is going to judge you for that.!! We are here to do what we can do, and make the others do something like ours in their way. That's all. But if we finally make something it would be great to show a bit, that helps the others do it better than us.!!


    All the Best..!!
    Zissis
    Last edited by djzissis; 05-23-2009, 07:54 AM.

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  • h20power
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    Originally posted by djzissis View Post
    I think Teflon might be better....

    @ H2Opower. I see on your paper that you've made a nice illustration of what are you 're going to do... But I see that you 're using different Leds every two. (black-white-black-white).
    Is there something that effects the process..?? Do we need different LEDs (let's say with different light wavelength.)

    As from the Planck's law.: E = h*f where.:
    E.: Photon energy
    h.: Planck's Constant
    f.: The frequency of the photon source.

    If we use leds with small wavelength (C=λF) we get high photon ferquency. Right?
    With high photon frequency, we get high photon energy.
    From Physics, we know that when an atom is ionized, a price of energy is needed to extract the electron. If we give more energy (look above), would it be possible to extract more electrons at the same time..??
    Thanks,
    Yes in Stanley Meyer design he used both photonic and electrical energy to strip electrons from the oxygen atom. My original design did call for four different types of LEDs but one was very expensive so what you are really seeing is three different types of LEDs ones that I am going to give a try. Remember it is the oxygen we are aiming at so choose the wavelengths that effect oxygen. 73 wavelengths can be found here but there are more: Spectra of Gas Discharges.
    The problem is we don't know which ones are for what ionization levels so all of us have to guess on this one. The is the main reason I wont share which wavelengths I am using for I guessed too and don't want anyone getting mad if they don't work well and trying to point the finger towards me. All have to remember this is the first time this part of Stanley Meyer's water for fuel technology has been built in since before the mans death. I like the Gas Processor design digit is making personally, but I will keep to my own thoughts and create it the best way I can and not copy his. This way we get may get two different designs that both work and that is why I encurage everyone to make their own Gas Processors so we get even more different types of designs that also might work.

    I like Planck's law and tried to put it to use as best I could, but like I said earlier in the end I had to make a "best guess" as to which wavelengths should work the best. Yes it is delrin but I think natrual nylon would have been better. But I was trying like hell to keep the cost down this thing was not cheap and more than one had to be made or it wouldn't have been made at all. Now on to the next stage and get the electronics built and the unit installed in a car for testing. I am also working on the injectors, but there is nothing to show about them as of yet.

    Remember the title is "Stanley Meyer Explained" I did not say anything about showing but only to provide a clear explainatoin as to how it all worked, in doing it this way it forces everyone to think and come up with as many different designs as there are people viewing all of this imagine over 21k different designs that all work. Is there only one type of car in the world of course not so why should there be only one type of design here, after all it is to take the place of fossile fuels right? So we need as many different design as we can get and that is where all of you come in making your own designs so when the time comes to take over it will be done with ease. For we will be competing with each other just like all of the many different car companies are doing right now, plus it goes one further and steps into power genaration and distribution. This is only the beginings of a world wide transformation and I wellcome all designs. For our end goal is enegy independence for all, so we can start the hard work of cleaning up the mess we have made of the planet thus far.

    Well, back to work, take care all.

    h2opower.

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by h20power View Post
    It is complete and I will not go into my design, just start showing your designs. I showed what I have been up to nothing more, get it?!


    h2opower.

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  • djzissis
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    Originally posted by pmazz850 View Post
    Very nice work H2Opower! Those end caps are made out of derlin I take it? Nice design.
    I think Teflon might be better....

    @ H2Opower. I see on your paper that you've made a nice illustration of what are you 're going to do... But I see that you 're using different Leds every two. (black-white-black-white).
    Is there something that effects the process..?? Do we need different LEDs (let's say with different light wavelength.)

    As from the Planck's law.: E = h*f where.:
    E.: Photon energy
    h.: Planck's Constant
    f.: The frequency of the photon source.

    If we use leds with small wavelength (C=λF) we get high photon ferquency. Right?
    With high photon frequency, we get high photon energy.
    From Physics, we know that when an atom is ionized, a price of energy is needed to extract the electron. If we give more energy (look above), would it be possible to extract more electrons at the same time..??

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  • djzissis
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    Hi my friend H2O power....

    You know something... I thing I fell in love with your design...!!

    Keep on brother..!!
    Greetings from Greece..!!

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  • pmazz850
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    Very nice work H2Opower! Those end caps are made out of derlin I take it? Nice design.

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  • h20power
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    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    HIH2OPOWER,
    Your GP is based only on LED?? Any HV part?? Regards
    It is complete and I will not go into my design, just start showing your designs. I showed what I have been up to nothing more, get it?!


    h2opower.

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by h20power View Post
    Thanks CPU3rother.



    Only a little more work and they will be done and ready for instalation.


    h2opower.
    HIH2OPOWER,
    Your GP is based only on LED?? Any HV part?? Regards

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  • h20power
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    Originally posted by CPU3rother View Post
    h2o Nice Progress!
    Thanks CPU3rother.

    Here are some more pic's of my version of the Gas Processor, enjoy.






    Only a little more work and they will be done and ready for instalation.


    h2opower.

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  • CPU3rother
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    h2o Nice Progress!

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by h20power View Post
    I am working with the existing fuel system on the car and I am not working with anything other than an ICE at the moment.


    h2opower.
    OK thanks your reply is clear..

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  • tutanka
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    My question is other for all including H2OPOWER.. What is the effect of reaction if I have large amount of AIR with -e and not of water mist?

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  • h20power
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    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    In this way you have passive vacuum for GP connected to ICE (ICE is the vacuum pump) and electric water pump for water mist injection at 125psi??Thanks for answer.. Regards
    I am working with the existing fuel system on the car and I am not working with anything other than an ICE at the moment. Okay I have to get back to working on the system before it gets too hot out take care everyone and happy building


    h2opower.
    Last edited by h20power; 05-18-2009, 05:11 PM.

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by rdmwc View Post
    tutanka, please read the patents as previously stated before you clutter the thread. you will notice only a filter upstream of the GP
    HI, If you read better Meyer suppose to use the water system with other applications different from ICE. For example if I use GP with rotary engine type turbine/compressor I don't have vacuum generated from ICE but air compressed produced from compressor. Is other scenario but I'm sure that GP work also in these news conditions.

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  • tutanka
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    Originally posted by h20power View Post
    Yes I am using a vacuum pump that we all know, it is called an internal combustion engine or ICE for short.
    In this way you have passive vacuum for GP connected to ICE (ICE is the vacuum pump) and electric water pump for water mist injection at 125psi??Thanks for answer.. Regards

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