Stanley Meyer Explained

[Oneminde]

I don't know where he is getting all of his stuff but the VIC transformer cost no where near those amounts, the whole set(conversion from gasoline to water as a fuel source) up should cost no more than $1500-$2500 USD. Remember Stanley Meyer was going to charge $1500 USD for the conversion from gasoline to water. Now in my cost I also include the cost of the car for the project and my total is somewhere around $2300 USD with the test car though I do have to add everything up but that is close to how much I have spent thus far.

But really the question you ask is not the right type for this is a question of your freedom, how much is your freedom worth? For that is what is at stake here, your freedom in the form of energy independence. How much are you willing to pay for your freedom? For once you pay it you are free, free to drive anywhere you so desire, and leave all of your lights on in your home while your away for it's now free to do so. You will be incontrol of your power production not the grid system connected to the power plants powered by the energy sellers. You will be free of any and all forms of energy being sold on the market today. Your coal usage will only be in the form of a BBQ, and your oil use will be only to lubricate your engine, transmissions,..., ect, and note they wont have anymore carbon build up, the primary source of engine failure. This is what it is all about, freedom, true freedom.

Best wishes to all,

h2opower.

freedom & independens. Now, during my time infront of my computer and text books i discovered John Bedini, Nicola Tesla, Tom Bearden, Peter Lindemann, now what these indiviuals did was to show me that i was deceived, demorolaised and reduced to a fool simply becose no one was ever goping to tell me the truth or show it to me - this was and still are ones own taskt do discover - i think we all know this by now and the reason why. The corporate world and oh yes GREED. YES i am planing a Bedini SG similar system as one power source in my car, but that is another discustion.

So the answer to your question; what is the price for my freedom? - that is everything i can afford - meaning my time and money and in the end (to be dramatic) my life - but i choose to live my life, so for that reason i am going to pay what i can.

Now, a reasonable and plausible amount/cost for this system should be whitin an area of $1500 - 3000,- so i dont understand why sebosfato have spent nearly $8000,- dollars on it. After all, moste of the construction has been covered, there alsow exist "of the self" parts like the VIC circuit wich are based upon the original and should work. Now that last part, as a matter of fact i whould like to get that examined further by you people - to get it verified or close to that. So i am going to put up some information about that soon in an attempt to actually get even closer to a fhinised system... and i hop that is allright? (new post)
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Now, there is another question that i whis to raise and that is The E.V Grey Conversion Tube and circuitRadient Event and of curse a simple expleantion done by Aaron Murakami and i hearby quote:

We need Longitudinal waves allsow but i think we allready know that right?

(Hope this was okey Aaron?)

To be honest, These words by Aaron was only a confermation that i was on the right track, aspecially after reading the documents (4) that i added earlier. The question is if a Grey system should be added OR The Bedini SG and allow that to be the energy.. i do not know why i am asking this, maybe to get some attention on it, not necessarily a long discustion.

(Will get right on finding the parts that i was talking about earlier)

[pmazz850]

sebosfato,
I don't know where your getting these prices from. They are way high. I will build a VIC myself and not spend much money. Your saying 10k for a VIC? Are you serious? All it is, is wire, a core and some bobbins.

[h20power]

H20power,
Do you think its possible to use the gapped core?
After watching the slide show, I'm thinking a gapped core wouldn't be good.

Use the gaped core for we don't want eddy currents, eddy currents cause the transformer to lose energy in the form of heat, and is concidered an energy loss.

Hope that helps,

h2opower.

[pmazz850]

That gap in the core is to prevent Eddy Currents: National High Magnetic Field Laboratory Slideshow: Eddy Currents and Lenz's Law
YouTube - Eddy Current Tubes
A-level Physics (Advancing Physics)/Transformers - Wikibooks, collection of open-content textbooks

The gap is cutting the magnetic flow in the core as to try and decrease the heat losses of the transformer due to eddy currents.


h2opower.

H20power,
Do you think its possible to use the gapped core?
After watching the slide show, I'm thinking a gapped core wouldn't be good.

[h20power]

These coils sound expensive to make, there must be "off the self" parts that can be bought. Why does a FE core cost that much whit the wire?..

I don't know where he is getting all of his stuff but the VIC transformer cost no where near those amounts, the whole set(conversion from gasoline to water as a fuel source) up should cost no more than $1500-$2500 USD. Remember Stanley Meyer was going to charge $1500 USD for the conversion from gasoline to water. Now in my cost I also include the cost of the car for the project and my total is somewhere around $2300 USD with the test car though I do have to add everything up but that is close to how much I have spent thus far.

But really the question you ask is not the right type for this is a question of your freedom, how much is your freedom worth? For that is what is at stake here, your freedom in the form of energy independence. How much are you willing to pay for your freedom? For once you pay it you are free, free to drive anywhere you so desire, and leave all of your lights on in your home while your away for it's now free to do so. You will be incontrol of your power production not the grid system connected to the power plants powered by the energy sellers. You will be free of any and all forms of energy being sold on the market today. Your coal usage will only be in the form of a BBQ, and your oil use will be only to lubricate your engine, transmissions,..., ect, and note they wont have anymore carbon build up, the primary source of engine failure. This is what it is all about, freedom, true freedom.

Best wishes to all,

h2opower.

[h20power]

I just pulled apart an old GM HEI coil I had laying around and the EI core seems to be about the right size. It actually looks exactly like Meyers. The only thing is it is "gapped". Has about a 1 mm gap. Can a gapped core be used for the VIC? I could always grind it down to remove the gap but I would rather not do that. Can the VIC be made on a rod instead of an EI core, And still work properly? Or should it be an EI core?

That gap in the core is to prevent Eddy Currents: National High Magnetic Field Laboratory Slideshow: Eddy Currents and Lenz's Law
YouTube - Eddy Current Tubes
A-level Physics (Advancing Physics)/Transformers - Wikibooks, collection of open-content textbooks

The gap is cutting the magnetic flow in the core as to try and decrease the heat losses of the transformer due to eddy currents.


h2opower.

[CPU3rother]

Hi everyone,

The Gas Processor is just about complete some assembly required:


This is showing the protective coating put on the aluminium housings.

Enjoy,

h2opower.

Wow! Those things are blinding.

[Oneminde]

expensive...

These coils sound expensive to make, there must be "off the self" parts that can be bought. Why does a FE core cost that much whit the wire?..

[sebosfato]

I read that it will lower the inductance if the core is gapped. Thats not really what we want , is it? Don't we want high inductance? But it could be made up with more turns, Providing you have the room for it on the core. I have no idea how many more turns it would take to make up for the loss from the gap.

I think is not important the inductance because it will operate in its saturating limit to give you almost square waves, when it saturate you have a lower inductance. Thats why meyer used his variac this way he applied the frequency and just goes up with the voltage until it saturate this way he had a high impedance output to drive his resonant circuit.

I'm going to explain you the best i can ok.

Primary 200 turns secondary 600 turns diode and two 100 bifilar wound charging chokes. The charging chokes are able to give this transformer a factor of voltage multiplication of at least 100. I mean you put 12v you get more than 1300 volts you put 100volts you have 10kv ... this transformer is used to drive what is the real resonant circuit witch correspond to the capacitors the diodes and the 2 resonant coils i will explain this better.
Two coils connected in series on the center tap you put the negative plate of the two capacitors and between the other positive plates and its respective ends of the coils you connect the diodes. The vic is than connected between the ground and the positive side of one capacitor. This way it resonates the positive pulse on one capacitor and negative on the other and this way you are able to build up high current witch will than translate into a high voltage dc between the plates, the distilled or as pure as possible water is better because with lower amp you get more voltage as voltage is = to resistance x amperage right. Once you have very high voltage it will ionize the water automatically and after this point power consume is very low and it self sustain the oscillation. you may have noted the thick wire coil stanley showed on his papers figure 10-4 dual layered multi spool, showing the I core configuration with the stages. It denomination is Resonant charging choke you don't see any diode because the ends of the thick coil is not shown and the connections goes straight to the gap from the vic. but the big coil is connected the way i said respecting the current sense. Meyer have being very intelligent he didn't gave you the gold on hand but he knew someday someone could understand his drawings.
Hope thats clear enough.

The gas processor is an advance because is much easier to ionize using this system the oxygen from the air to use as source of the electrons to self sustain the operation than to extract electrons from the water to do this.

Thats why he used 40 amps 600v diodes the pulses he was applying was no more than 600v because of water impedaces. A good diode is 70hflr60s02. The fastest i could find here. I bough 2 for 18 euros. Wire thick 4mm with insulation.
If you consider to try to construct this device for your self you are going to spent a lot of money more than 8000 dollars for sure and probably not be able to make it work. you need equipment ... 10k would be a starting point. I already spent more than this... I need to buy the magnets for my design because i want to use magnetic pulses to do the job too so if you want to join forces for now we need +-2000 euros to buy 14 magnets. The rest is almost ready. The magnets serves to reduce the inductance i'm going to use radio frequencies.
I think when there are good ideas to try one could try and all have the result no? In my case i'm researching this everyday since 3 years ago. And that is what i came out with until now.

Thats all Folks
Now you know how it resonates.

[pmazz850]

I read that it will lower the inductance if the core is gapped. Thats not really what we want , is it? Don't we want high inductance? But it could be made up with more turns, Providing you have the room for it on the core. I have no idea how many more turns it would take to make up for the loss from the gap.

[sebosfato]

Please realize that you can apply all the formulas you want to this tri coil, but none will give the real understanding because none of the standard models use IRON MAGNET WIRE!

The chokes are current limiters AND Magnetic FLUX AMPLIFIERS at the SAME TIME !
I dont know anyone over the last 3 years that could explain what is happening inside the VIC during a single pulse....because all the science is based on copper wire coils... and copper wire is not MAGNETIC and does NOT become PART OF THE STEEL CORE !

There are some differences using the ferritic wire ok but what happens on the vic you find on the link i posted on the post.
Any way what do you understand when i say you need at least 2 diodes? did you saw the first schematic of the pdf link?

[TRON]

there are no research models...

Please realize that you can apply all the formulas you want to this tri coil, but none will give the real understanding because none of the standard models use IRON MAGNET WIRE!

The chokes are current limiters AND Magnetic FLUX AMPLIFIERS at the SAME TIME !
I dont know anyone over the last 3 years that could explain what is happening inside the VIC during a single pulse....because all the science is based on copper wire coils... and copper wire is not MAGNETIC and does NOT become PART OF THE STEEL CORE !

[sebosfato]

The gap is important in a ferrite core less than it is on a steel laminated core. The gap stops the lines of flux from making a complete cycle around the core, this helps with reducing the saturation of the core with magnetic flux lines and allows more power for a specific core. Without the gaps the steel core becomes saturated and useless at a much lower frequency.

Gaps are filled with paper in most transformers.

Because of the TRI COIL design with the chokes on the inside ( and because they are also considered part of the physical core {magnetic iron} they help with saturation limits...) the primary outside of those and the secondary outside of the others...an EE core or EI core will allow more magnetic flux lines to cross the windings of the secondary coil, simply a better design than a rod core. I dont think the lines of flux around a rod core can even make it out that far ! (to the secondary...)

Consider this the pulse from the primary, goes thru the secondary, then thru both chokes at the same time at a higher voltage and lower amperage, and the pulse from the chokes imposed on the core affects the secondary again..then the reverse pulse .then the next primary pulse starts all over again ! A Very exotic transformer design... I wish a transformer company engineer who makes transformers for a living could show us what actually happens inside this amazing little gem... Stan was a Genius ahead of his time... obviously guided by a higher power!

Hi did you read my last post ? what do you think?
Vic is not very linear transformer it can put out almost square waves.
Have a read about ferroresonance. will help you

[TRON]

I just pulled apart an old GM HEI coil I had laying around and the EI core seems to be about the right size. It actually looks exactly like Meyers. The only thing is it is "gapped". Has about a 1 mm gap. Can a gapped core be used for the VIC? I could always grind it down to remove the gap but I would rather not do that. Can the VIC be made on a rod instead of an EI core, And still work properly? Or should it be an EI core?

The gap is important in a ferrite core less than it is on a steel laminated core. The gap stops the lines of flux from making a complete cycle around the core, this helps with reducing the saturation of the core with magnetic flux lines and allows more power for a specific core. Without the gaps the steel core becomes saturated and useless at a much lower frequency.

Gaps are filled with paper in most transformers.

Because of the TRI COIL design with the chokes on the inside ( and because they are also considered part of the physical core {magnetic iron} they help with saturation limits...) the primary outside of those and the secondary outside of the others...an EE core or EI core will allow more magnetic flux lines to cross the windings of the secondary coil, simply a better design than a rod core. I dont think the lines of flux around a rod core can even make it out that far ! (to the secondary...)

Consider this the pulse from the primary, goes thru the secondary, then thru both chokes at the same time at a higher voltage and lower amperage, and the pulse from the chokes imposed on the core affects the secondary again..then the reverse pulse .then the next primary pulse starts all over again ! A Very exotic transformer design... I wish a transformer company engineer who makes transformers for a living could show us what actually happens inside this amazing little gem... Stan was a Genius ahead of his time... obviously guided by a higher power!

[Oneminde]

We are all doing the best we can and at a speeding rate. I added the documents so that new information can be found whit in the radiant energy field/cold electrisety. So together whit the VIC, EEC, HGG and GP - we should be abble to put this thing together and make it work. I believe that it is only a question of when, not if.

Now - there is still much to do, but we are getting there. And by the way, thanks TRON nice explanation there.

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