Water Sparkplug

[Richie_asg1]

Can you guys with an existing set-up try burning an emulsion of vegetable oil in water - or sugar solution ?

If the theory of putting oil fires out with water holds true - you should get some impressive energy out of it.

[grizli]

Hi all here again!

I used to follow this thread for some time. Now I came back and see aditional 40 pages.

I wonder if anyone can make summary of the best achievements from that VW BUG with plasma spark and water vapour, what were the best mileage increase achivemnts so far obtained here ?

Thanks

[Jetijs]

Many have tried and no one has reported any damage so far except for an increased spark plug wear.

[Guruji]

treatment

That depends on what else you are doing. If you just need a better combustion of the gasoline, no such treatment is needed. Even if you use steam injection along with the plasma spark, I doubt you would need such a treatment. If you ran your engine on pure hho or steam without any gasoline, then yes.

Thanks Jetijs for response. Did you try to do this circuit on a car without a ceramic treatment?
I want to be sure cause if I would try this on my car do not do any damages to the engine
Thanks

[Jetijs]

That depends on what else you are doing. If you just need a better combustion of the gasoline, no such treatment is needed. Even if you use steam injection along with the plasma spark, I doubt you would need such a treatment. If you ran your engine on pure hho or steam without any gasoline, then yes.

[Guruji]

Ceramic treatment

Hi guys I asked this question and asking again for a response.
Does one have to make a ceramic treatment to the engine to run this circuit?
Thanks

[Michael John Nunnerley]

This works very well

Please check out the spark plug in this patent which was made under a NASA contract and give your thoughts on it.
Thanks


Plasma igniter for internal combustion engine - Patent 4122816

This setup works very well and is of the type I have used in the past using an SCR as a switch for the current carrying voltage which also acts as a rectifier to DC.

The plug is a little more difficult to make in a size that would fit an engine, if the three electrode version was to be used. The two electrode version would be easier and a standard plug could be adapted, but the 30Kv cap bank might be a problem in this case.

Mike

[Slovenia]

Thanks

First up apologies if these have been posted before...
I was not sure if this was the best thread to put this..feel free to remove or move as you see fit

Wipo PLASMA JET IGNITION PLUG IGNITION CONTROL 2009 (NGK)

IGNITION DEVICE FOR PLASMA JET IGNITION PLUG 2009 (NGK)

Thanks for posting those links. I hadn't seen that information before.

[blahblah]

First up apologies if these have been posted before...
I was not sure if this was the best thread to put this..feel free to remove or move as you see fit

Wipo PLASMA JET IGNITION PLUG IGNITION CONTROL 2009 (NGK)

IGNITION DEVICE FOR PLASMA JET IGNITION PLUG 2009 (NGK)

[Slovenia]

Rickoff Thank You!!

Hello folks,

I was just over at the waterfuel1978 group site, and noticed that a new message and file had been posted by s1r9a9m9. As files seem to be disappearing at that site, about as quickly as they are posted, I immediately copied the file and posted it in the Public folder of my Windows Sky Drive.
I think that should be okay since waterfuel1978 is an open public forum, and I gave full credit to s1r9a9m9 as being the document author. I will show a link to the file between the dotted lines below, but first an explanation is in order.

When Gotoluc posted his s1r9a9m9 replication videos on YouTube, s1r9a9m9 watched the videos and made the following comment, "Nice set up. If you use a coil with two windings going through a main coil to boost the output spark up about 10 times what you have now, you will have a system almost like mine."

Today, sir9a9m9 posted a new message concerning this coil, along with a document explaining it further. He also said that he would be posting a video soon, showing how the coil is actually wound. Hopefully he will also share some additional details.
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Here is a link to the transformer file:
S1r9a9m9 transformer coil.rtf - Windows Live SkyDrive

UPDATE - S1r9a9m9 has now also posted a photo showing the silver cup that appeared in his YouTube video of the 18 hp engine running on water, and also shows what was inside the cup. You will see this photo, and a close-up of the photo, plus a new pdf file in which s1r9a9m9 explains the step-up transformer coil that was in the silver cup. See them here:
S1r step up transformer coil.jpg - Windows Live SkyDrive
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Note that s1r9a9m9 says the inverter isn't needed, and that in fact it can not even be used with the transformer setup. It looks like s1r is finally going to show us the missing pieces (or at least some of them), and that is great.

I hope this information spurs some additional experimentation and modification of the circuitry. I have been watching this thread with interest, and you have all been making excellent contributions to the effort. Keep up the great work!

Rickoff

Rickoff,

Thanks for making those files available to all of us.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Slovenia]

Automotive Plasma-Arc Ignition System / Patent US 5568801

I found this patent very interesting indeed.

John Paterson 1996
US 5568801
Plasma-Arc Ignition System (Automotive Application)

[Guruji]

water spark

Hi guys when using this circuit one has to make other modifications to the engine like a ceramic treatment and changing exhaust pipe to stainless steel?
Thanks

[Slovenia]

Thanks

Ok, I understand now.
If your high voltage output from the ignition coil of positive or negative polarity? I would lose the inductor and put the diode string on the positive line and the other way around Did you use this on a running car or on a bench setup?

Here is what I am using and what has worked well so far:


But this is used only if the HV output is of positive polarity.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for sharing the circuit with all of us Jetijs.

[Slovenia]

Circuit Pic Query

I have my Board all wired up and installed. Should I do a video of it running???



Cutting the hole for the plug was a real PIA! Next time I am just going to drill a hole and use a rubber grommet.

Hi Shane,

Do you have any other pics of your circuit you could share?
Also, what results are you seeing with this circuit on your engine?

Thanks for sharing with us.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Aaron]

using off the shelf CDI?

Has anyone used an off the shelf CDI and simply add a diode from coil
primary to high voltage? It would be the same as the single cap plasma
circuit and should work fine. Most would have about a 4uf cap at 400v.
That is the most common I've seen - at least in that range.

I have a few CDI's but haven't tried that yet but if it works the same,
would be the easiest for anyone to do without having to build a circuit.

A booster cap system could be added at anytime later in parallel with the
plug.