Water Sparkplug

[Aaron]

firestorm v2 details?

I would imagine the balls around the ground could be every 90/180/270 as well?

Is the center ball still about 5mm diameter - about the diameter of the ceramic itself?

[Aaron]

Ash's new vid

Water_Spark_Plug_(reloaded).avi

Thanks for putting up that video Ash, will have to check it out!

[Aaron]

new firestorm?

That is basically the cross section of the second generation Firestorm plug , the one with multiple balls around a center ball . It is said to be better then the first generation Firestorm plug , the one with a center ball surrounded by a cage. I have not tried one yet though.

Hi Moose,

Do you know of any references showing this is where the Firestorm is headed?

[Shane Jackson]

That is basically the cross section of the second generation Firestorm plug , the one with multiple balls around a center ball . It is said to be better then the first generation Firestorm plug , the one with a center ball surrounded by a cage. I have not tried one yet though.

HAHA so there is a V2 firestorm and you cannot even get a V1....

I think the V2 may be easier to make. And since it is not patented, we should have some made! I contacted a company in china about making the original firestorm plugs and they would not respond to me.... perhaps we could get these v2's made..... I will put up some of the initial $$.

[Robert E.]

new plug

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Any comments?
Al

Or how about this design, So far with 500 miles on them they seem to run as good as the firestorm. These are made of steel and just run on standard ignition. The material could be changed to run on plasma ignition. They are much easer to build. Bob

[ashtweth]

Water_Spark_Plug_(reloaded).avi

This is the pinnacle of open source engineers efforts regarding plasma spark research(PDF is on the panacea uni site), it shows how we have brought more attention and awareness to this NEGLECTED plug research (will be showing it on TV this year) and also how endorsing a non profit org (panacea) would enable us to CONTRACT a company to produce these SUPPRESSED plugs as an environmental incentive.

Game over corporations.

Also in the video (updated material) we show a way to secure all patents to do with FREE ENERGY, as they all could be registered with the non profit orgs research and development center (through legislation forcing the patent office to do so) Then a company is given 2 years in order to produce the technology or their patent rights are diminished (this would of stopped the EV1 electric car case)

THANK THE OPEN SOURCE PLASMA SPARK ENGINEERS FOR THESE IDEAS NOT ME ASH I REMAIN HUMBLE TO MY BROTHERS

new plug results are in there and more.
thanks the open source community

People have been emailing the panacea admin asking to help produce Rob kupra's plugs, so is all our efforts in vain?

i think not there is MUCH more to come.
Thanks to Luc , Aaron, Peter Lindermann, Greg and ALL open source engineers.

Ash

[moose 53]

That is basically the cross section of the second generation Firestorm plug , the one with multiple balls around a center ball . It is said to be better then the first generation Firestorm plug , the one with a center ball surrounded by a cage. I have not tried one yet though.

[aljhoa]

New Plasma Spkplg Design


Any comments?
Al

[ashtweth]

Hi Shane, thx mate will add in, i forgot to give Shane a plug DOH Ps, Rosco is working on some thing interesting guys will have some more news later

[Shane Jackson]

Hi Guys , just finished updating the PDF and NEW RELOADED plasma spark video, will be all posted tomorrow just ripping and encoding, sure thing guys i knew every one was busy just thought some one might take a look when ready , thanks guys will mail Naresh now.

Hi Ash,

I noticed my PCB's made it to the PDF. Thanks for the link. I updated the picture as the lighting was bad on the other.

On a side note, Guys be careful if you get one of my PCB's. With all the diodes and resistors, you could easily go cross-eyed!!

Just finished up one this AM. I had a bad diode causing my voltage doubler caps to pop. Also fried my Caddock resistors all for a stupid $.02 diode!! My advice, test the diodes before applying voltage.

When I get it all mounted in the case I will take some pics and post them here.

Shane

[ashtweth]

Hi Guys , just finished updating the PDF and NEW RELOADED plasma spark video, will be all posted tomorrow just ripping and encoding, sure thing guys i knew every one was busy just thought some one might take a look when ready , thanks guys will mail Naresh now.

[gmeast]

circuit

Thanks Greg updating now, putting together the new video production now with all the new results results, also guys Naresh has done a new one, please let me know if any body decides to try this, ill try and get to it.

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Ash

Hi Ash,

Would you please contact Naresh and have him post a scope capture of his 1.5Uf x 630 V capacitor charge / discharge cycle(s)?

Thanks. Peace,

Greg

[gotoluc]

Thanks Greg updating now, putting together the new video production now with all the new results results, also guys Naresh has done a new one, please let me know if any body decides to try this, ill try and get to it.

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Ash

Hi Ash,

I just noticed this post!...please let Naresh know that I find his circuit very interesting and thank him for sharing it here.

It looks simple and I hope it is effective. Please do post updates on the performance results.

All the best to you mates

Luc

[gmeast]

negative to top of plugs

Hi Gregg

I just want to verify what I see in your schematic. Looks like you are connecting the negative wire from your circuit to the top of your spark plugs and grounding the positive wire from your circuit. Is this true?

Is it because you car's stock ignition sends the negative to the top of the spark plug (opposite from most cars)?

I ask because my 5.5HP BS engine sends negative to the top of the spark plug and I don't want to hook your circuit up backwards.

Thank you for clarifying.
DonL

Hi Don,

I know it looks weird, though it is correct. It is why the diodes point the way they do. It is also why the AC supply must have an isolation transformer into the circuit. This holds true even if you are using a full wave bridge instead of a voltage doubler. The transformer of the simple oscillator/inverter I use automatically isolates for me. My ignition is a stock coil, negative ground, negative switched, positive from the ignition switch ... like most other systems. I'm sorry to say I never analyzed this circuit for a BS engine, I slapped the thing right on my Bug from the get-go. Of course you remember how it fried inverters which led to a long journey to find a simple oscillator circuit that wouldn't blow up. This took up allot of my time ... sad to say.

Did you set up some points and a stock coil for running the plasma circuit? If so, you should post it, it would help others who only intend to test on a small engine.

Greg

[Shane Jackson]

Hi Shane
great looking board
This might be a dumb question, but what is the putpose of all those small holes in the upper part of the board?

Places for diodes and resistors. (all 300 of them !!!)