Water Sparkplug

[gmeast]

bubbler

Hi greg,
I just wander that can I use exhaust to be intake like geet or EGR system,
Cuz now I use VexUs but not steam inject, not significantly change in fuel consumption, but i recirculate small exhaust to intake like egr system. i always saw water drop in this line, so this i think i will increase exhaust/air ratio to add more steam but steem from itself not from water drop.
my qusetion is i need to know your ratio of steam that you get better millage, that i can convert back to exhaust/air ratio. if i pass this exhaust to water bubble tank it will be sat.vapor like geet system but at first let's try to use itself... that's my idea,
sorry for my bad english language,
thanks,
zzz

Hi zzz,

Actually, I think the geet-type water bubbler might be very good because it will also give hot vapor (almost like steam). I am not sure how much work is involved in creating/controlling exhaust bypass to to the bubbler (on a car)

Got me re-thinking.

Greg

[gmeast]

Geet

Wonder is Greg's Bug should be a GEET WITH the vexus... maybe that would be a better use of the vexus plug circuit? Only saying as the GEET gas (WATER filled)fires in the center apparently.. hmmmmmmm thats ONE way to do it i guess...


Ash

Hi Ash,

You may be correct. zzz got me thinking about the bubbler as a steam/vapor generator. I'm just not into considering running the bug on Katchup (Catsup) though ... tee hee.

Greg

[Jetijs]

Hi all.
Here is a small video of a Krupa style spark plug replica bench test. I got the spark plug from user Robert.E (thank you ). This is just a bench test. So far I do not see any difference compared to standard plugs except for the greater electrode surface area. As soon as I get some more free time, I will test it on my genset.
YouTube - Krupa plug replica test with water spark circuit
Thanks,
Jetijs

[Ozicell]

Hi Jetijs,

Firing open air you probably won't see much difference. Try firing under pressure in a pressure chamber, as the pressure goes up past 150psi, your plug should put on a nice display. I believe that as most engines don't achieve this under compression by itself, the plug comes into it's own when it fires again through the pressure front of the combustion. At this point even standard ignition voltages and currents should achieve a plasma spark with this plug.

It's good to see that more people are getting these plugs put together out there!

Cheers

[zzz]

Hi Ash,

You may be correct. zzz got me thinking about the bubbler as a steam/vapor generator. I'm just not into considering running the bug on Katchup (Catsup) though ... tee hee.

Greg

the real world i try water drop but engine run quite not smooth.
I try to use steam that is byproduct because ratio is accurate we will got steam as much as we use fuel, that an idea. how much your bug water consumption?
thanks.
zzz

[ashtweth]

Apparently the water vapor gets "cracked" in the plasma GEET reactor, funny how all the gEET guys are trying to use a plasma ignition now

Guys check this out -Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory scientists have shown that water, in hot dense environments, plays an unexpected role in catalyzing complex explosive reactions. Read more at alternative energy

[aljhoa]

Apparently the water vapor gets "cracked" in the plasma GEET reactor, funny how all the gEET guys are trying to use a plasma ignition now

Guys check this out -Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory scientists have shown that water, in hot dense environments, plays an unexpected role in catalyzing complex explosive reactions. Read more at alternative energy

Decades late see what Arlington Aerodynamics Research Center is experimanting with
YouTube - Pulsed Detonation Engine 1 Hz Ground Test with Arc-igniter
Al

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

it's been a while since I have posted new information but hopefully I will start my experiments soon as winter has now past and the weather is warming up so I should be able to continue soon.

I found on YouTube a Romanian engineer named Mihai Rusetel that seems to have developed and patented a water engine.

Video link: YouTube - Water Engine

If anyone knows the language, could you please give us some details on this.

Thanks

Luc

[ashtweth]

Thanks for that link Luc.

Exploding water in the microwave
snopes.com: Superheated Microwaved Water

Ash

[ashtweth]

Guys, this looks like a "water cracker" Steam system.

Translated version of http://fr.ecopra.com/index.php?/Kit-Ecopra/Presentation-du-kit-ECOPRA-C

Translated version of http://fr.ecopra.com/index.php?/Videos/Ecopra-sur-Mercedes-308-D

[Kinetix]

Rusetel's engine

gotoluc, regarding the engine invented by Mihai Rusetel, I could say that it is a sort of a steam engine.
It makes steam with a hot electric resistor (or something like that), and feeds the cylinders. It does not crack the steam. It may look promising, but the eficiency is low... Sorry that my fellow romanian didn't make something better.
Anyway, there are other romanians that made great things in history. I would give you only one example. You know about the Wright brothers that flew first in 1903. Well, 3 years later, working independenty from them, a young romanian reached the sky. It's name: Traian Vuia. Yes, it's true that his airplane looked much like a big umbrella with an engine and two propellers, but it flew.
Another big romanian that worked in the field of engines and aeronautics, was Henri Coanda. He developed the first jet engine airplane, if I recall corectly.
Cheers.

[Shane Jackson]

I cannot believe it's been almost a month.... I am thinking of using a Molex plug for the connections out the case (to sparkplugs, block, and AC). Will make a real nice clean look and install.

[Mad Scientist]

new guy

Hi! Everyone this my first post here. I have just spent the last week or so reading thought this entire forum. So I realize that his has been said before but “WOW” you have done some incredible work. Congratulations! I participate in some other forums where they are trying for better mileage or how to figure out how Stan’s car worked and while there have been some mileage improvements Stan’s car is still a mystery.

Having some familiarity with VW’s I found Greg’s fix for his leaky oil cooler to be incredible. Most “rational” individuals would have consigned that engine to the scrap pile. But then most rational individuals could do what you have done here they would have started out with idea that it is imposable and then worked to prove that their assumption was correct. By the way old VW’s do not leak oil, that is just their way of marking their territory.

It appears to me that spark plugs, plasma, and steam injection are the way to go thus will be working along that line. I’m thinking that I will start with building the power inverter and diode strings and running some tests with it. (I already have a bunch of 6 amp 1000V diodes on order.) Eventually I will consider machining some spark plugs but maybe by then Firestorm will have something on the market.

[gotoluc]

gotoluc, regarding the engine invented by Mihai Rusetel, I could say that it is a sort of a steam engine.
It makes steam with a hot electric resistor (or something like that), and feeds the cylinders. It does not crack the steam. It may look promising, but the eficiency is low... Sorry that my fellow romanian didn't make something better.
Anyway, there are other romanians that made great things in history. I would give you only one example. You know about the Wright brothers that flew first in 1903. Well, 3 years later, working independenty from them, a young romanian reached the sky. It's name: Traian Vuia. Yes, it's true that his airplane looked much like a big umbrella with an engine and two propellers, but it flew.
Another big romanian that worked in the field of engines and aeronautics, was Henri Coanda. He developed the first jet engine airplane, if I recall corectly.
Cheers.

Hi Kinetix,

thank you for your reply

That is interesting information about Romanian inventors.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[ashtweth]

Shane what a beauty man love it