Water Sparkplug

[jstadwater]

Hey Greg,

I don't know about the actual voltage, but my spark does not seem to suffer any at higher rpm, at least visually on the bench. I'm still working on getting a transformer, I will have more data once I get your newest circuit built. Later.............................Mike

My present config uses a voltage tripler circuit..........................

[jstadwater]

Here is the data for gas and deisel, according to Wikipedia:

Gasoline (petrol) <−40°C (−40°F) 246°C (475°F)
Diesel >62°C (143°F) 210°C (410°F)

The first temp is flashpoint in C and F degrees, the second temp is the auto-ignition point. I guess the second temp is what we would have to stay well below.

[Ansis Freimanis]

To Jetijs

Thank, You for INFO.
YouTube - Powerful x-rays made from sticky tape here is the video.
I am not a nuclear physicist, and I don’t think to use Scotch like shirt...

[gotoluc]

@ Luc

Yes, I will try the skull mister with water, of course. But that video opens doors to more possible liquids to "fog", than just water. I don't think this will require a semi GEET to function, keep reading below.................

@ ALL

Does anyone here know the auto-ignition temp of gasoline? How about deisel fuel? What I'm thinking is the same principle of heating the water to make it easier to go to vapor, as Luc stated. Applications already exist that heat the gasoline before it gets to the engine. You follow me? Some of us already feed a "vaporous" gas into the intake, HHO, what would it hurt to feed in a little extra? Even if we need to use a LP carb instead of a gasoline carb, or throttle body, big deal if it works, right? They make adapter plates to change a mulitude of fuel injected and carbed vehicles over to LP (just modify it for low pressure). I know guys here in Naples that run their fleet trucks on LP as we speak, they are in the GREEN category.

Still use the fuel tank in the car as the supply, feed the gasoline (or deisel fuel,) from the tank into a "created" unit to heat it to the right temp, making it easier to vaporize, but well below auto-ignition temp. Engine size would dictate the number of small sonic transducer units required to change the heated liquid to vapor, "on demand" (could be electronically controlled via throttle position). Still use the return line to the fuel tank (may need to be bigger diameter for all that excess liquid the engine won't be using ). It's not as simple to make as it is to write.......but I think it can be done for sure. Hence my signature at the bottom of my posts, it's also my motto, "IF IT DOESN'T EXIST, CREATE IT!".

Then maybe use a heat exchanger from the exhaust system to create a steam feed, and a booster to add HHO..........and ignite it all with a plasma blast from the spark plug!!! VIOLA!!! And they call me a redneck......I'll show them! I share this idea with all of you, to kick around, give feedback, try to build one before I do, what do you think? Later.............................Mike

Hi jstadwater,

hey, I see you're located in Naples? is that Naples, Florida? if so I ain't too far from you since I'm in St. Petersburg, FL. for another week. Maybe I can drive down to see your setup?

Good ideas you have there.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[jstadwater]

Yes Luc,

It is Naples Florida, and I would love to have you come down and visit ANYTIME! We could make a whole day of it, and kick around all sorts of plans and ideas. How cool it is that you are so close by! I will PM you.

Thanks.........................Mike

[ashtweth]

Well we were trying not to be part of the fried inverter club or blow any thing up , but some times S happens

Okay the report i got back from Andrew was he used the doubler with:


100 watt light bulb in series on the AC side
voltage doubler - 2 X 30uf 400 volts
50 uf 800 volts storage cap
There was a 3Kohm 30 watt resistor in series between the storage and dump cap
5uf 800 volts dump cap they charge 600 volts
240 volt inverter but was running at 60 hertz

Dump cap exploded after 10 minutes driving And there was no significant difference in engine performance. The explosion of the dump caps may have been a result of an insufficient current surge rating on first stage of every discharge. May need an electric motor starter rated capacitor.Also Andrew has dropped down the cap values in Rev's circuit and states there has not been any ore wear then normal after week of driving, , i will take a closer look at the plugs at the end of the weeks guys.

More to come.

[gotoluc]

Yes Luc,

It is Naples Florida, and I would love to have you come down and visit ANYTIME! We could make a whole day of it, and kick around all sorts of plans and ideas. How cool it is that you are so close by! I will PM you.

Thanks.........................Mike

Thanks Mike for the invite. I will go by to see you and the great work you have done at some time next week.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Well we were trying not to be part of the fried inverter club or blow any thing up , but some times S happens

Okay the report i got back from Andrew was he used the doubler with:


100 watt light bulb in series on the AC side
voltage doubler - 2 X 30uf 400 volts
50 uf 800 volts storage cap
There was a 3Kohm 30 watt resistor in series between the storage and dump cap
5uf 800 volts dump cap they charge 600 volts
240 volt inverter but was running at 60 hertz

Dump cap exploded after 10 minutes driving And there was no significant difference in engine performance. The explosion of the dump caps may have been a result of an insufficient current surge rating on first stage of every discharge. May need an electric motor starter rated capacitor.Also Andrew has dropped down the cap values in Rev's circuit and states there has not been any ore wear then normal after week of driving, , i will take a closer look at the plugs at the end of the weeks guys.

More to come.

Thanks Ash for the Double Voltage Test update ... interesting a 800v cap blows up with a 600 volt charge... we are experiencing many unusual behaviors with these circuits

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

[ashtweth]

Okay now Jeff may be machining us some Ball tips i think these are going to do better, don't forget we experienced no more wear with Revizal's taking the caps down so some good news , will take a look at the end of the week and compare. So far Greg's finesse is looking like the answer

[Aaron]

possible implosion video

Just found another old video and put it on youtube.
Shows what appears to be an implosion effect from this plasma ignition.
YouTube - Plasma Spark Implosion

I believed for months that the sound is an implosive clap and not from the explosion.

[GotGas]

Binary logigic -vs- analog thought

Just found another old video and put it on youtube.
Shows what appears to be an implosion effect from this plasma ignition.
YouTube - Plasma Spark Implosion

I believed for months that the sound is an implosive clap and not from the explosion.

Aaron,

Things are rarely one thing OR the other. Rather, they are usually one thing AND the other.

There are two reactions taking place. One is a chemical reaction and the other is an atomic reaction. The loud bang is the sound of cavitation and what makes all free energy machines work.

I wrote something to help AllCanadian that better explains the process starting here.

[gmeast]

finished oscillator testing

Hi all,

Whew! I've finished the oscillator design and testing as far as I'm going to take it. I need (we all need) to know the potential for the water spark plug technology ... not what's a better inverter design. But since I fathered the Vexus Circuit and it so handily blows up inverters I thought I'd try to at least provide an alternative power supply for it so the REAL testing can resume. The VexUs Circuit has never had stability problems so it seems worth the effort to solve the power issues.

Below is a picture of the oscillator/inverter. The on-board transformer is rated at 24VA (Watts in this case). The circuit is the exact circuit "High Powered Inverter" I posted earlier. It is a self oscillator. The resistor values are as shown in the picture except for the Caps ... they are 10,000 uF and the thing oscillates at 88 Hz. You can see two cooling fans ... one for the transistors and one for the transformer. At 9:00 is a full wave voltage doubler (actually 2 in parallel for capacity). At 1:30 is a 1,000 uF cap for the 12VDC power in (power supply stuff). At 3:00 is the CDI (dump) Cap @ 5 uF. To its right is the storage cap at 450 uF. Just below that is the ceramic current limiter (resistor) R1 at 510 Ohms.

I'll be posting some vids shortly of all this installed in the Bug, another look at the new HV spark under pressure and the beginnings of my 'headlong' into a semi-geet water/fuel vaporizer for the Bug ... then down to business.

Aside ... the voltage multiplier output starts at 445VDC, is at 325 VDC at 2,400 equiv engine RPM and drops somewhat linearly until about 6,000 RPM and then crashes (minimal output). I'm going to hammer on these voltage multipliers to try and understand how to make them support the HV over a broader operational frequency range.

Peace,

Greg

[GotGas]

That is the first time I have seen a voltage multiplier using electrolytic caps. Am I missing something or not seeing what I think I am?

[gmeast]

Electrolytic caps.

That is the first time I have seen a voltage multiplier using electrolytic caps. Am I missing something or not seeing what I think I am?

Hi Got Gas,

Yep you're seeing right. They only work on a half cycle ... in one direction in this full wave design, so a 250 volt cap is good in a 500 VDC multiplier. The caps you're looking at are 22 uF - 250 VDC. They don't get higher than ambient temperature.

Thanks for your interest. Peace,

Greg

[GotGas]

If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion, I see a lot of low bandpass filtering what what about the high end. Have you considered using a simple and cheap varistor across the output?

edit - So across the the two black wires on your multiplier board. Then you can use cheap ceramic disk caps that won't rob so much power from the circuit.