Bedini GT3
Kcarring, FRC
I thought I would answer some questions,
First Welcome.
The reason for the low current is allow for the highest possible Radiant Energy that is found in all space that surrounds you, some call it, Radiant, negative energy, special charges and so on, but it's all the same thing. This energy is scattered vectors pointing everywhere thought-out space.
To gather this energy you must build a pump for it. The Coils seem to fit the bill here as you can pump them. It does not take allot of power to do this just potential charge. Most batteries developed currents inside them, The first effect of this is the potentializing of the ions this causes the Ions to move the other direction as it does not take current to do this, just potential (Voltage). The Bedini GT3 machine is much different as the energy is stored in a capacitor to be discharged when the voltage is at max potential ( this is real current in amperes) to the second battery bank.
The machine does not use allot of current to do this as it is triggered out of the coil that drives the rotation of the wheel. The wheel must just rotate to cause the switching to gather this energy. The original SG machine is self triggered and is a fixed timing so that you can see the effect of Negative energy in the spike, that is then directed to the secondary battery to perform charging with impulse spikes, the power is in the spike to move the Ions in the battery.
The spike is self adjusting to the battery being used as the rotor changes speed to adjust for the battery. This is known as time charging. The SG can be looked at as a self rotating Magneto Energizer, high voltage output. Some of the effects of this is desulphation of bad batteries as it will bring them back to life if the battery is not shorted. You could look at this like a window that is covered with dirt, not a good view. The process cleans the window, now Ions can move in charge mode as the battery develops it's own current inside to charge. "Hope This Helps"
John B
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I share the same questions or concerns that Kyle has put forth. And alsoOriginally posted by kcarring View PostI hope that this is not too off topic. I've read the thread over and over, and I am just completing my first SSG, so I'm a newcomer. Here's my question. Firstly, I'm amazed with the low current input. I've listened to Tom and John speak over and over. I don't have a problem conceptualizing how the Bedini motor accomplishes work. What I don't understand is the scaling. Here we have a very large machine, very low current input. Very low RPM. So, what is the qualifying aspect of the increased magnitude. It would seem to me, one could not (even if possible) feed the battery bank with radiant spikes of an amplitude higher than what might do damage to those batteries (maybe I'm wrong there...) ... and if current and frequency are not real players... how does this "size matter"... what creates the "volume" of negative electricity. Does the duration of the peak stretch out... higher amplitude?... larger fields ... what makes this so powerful. Sorry for my ignorance. It's just very amazing. Thank you for sharing this with the world John B., and thank-you for great customer service at r-charge, too.
as well, "Thank you for sharing this with the world John B., and thank-you for great customer service at r-charge, too."
George
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I hope that this is not too off topic. I've read the thread over and over, and I am just completing my first SSG, so I'm a newcomer. Here's my question. Firstly, I'm amazed with the low current input. I've listened to Tom and John speak over and over. I don't have a problem conceptualizing how the Bedini motor accomplishes work. What I don't understand is the scaling. Here we have a very large machine, very low current input. Very low RPM. So, what is the qualifying aspect of the increased magnitude. It would seem to me, one could not (even if possible) feed the battery bank with radiant spikes of an amplitude higher than what might do damage to those batteries (maybe I'm wrong there...) ... and if current and frequency are not real players... how does this "size matter"... what creates the "volume" of negative electricity. Does the duration of the peak stretch out... higher amplitude?... larger fields ... what makes this so powerful. Sorry for my ignorance. It's just very amazing. Thank you for sharing this with the world John B., and thank-you for great customer service at r-charge, too.
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Bedini GT3
Wrench76,
Welcome, and thank you, it never hurts to have extra eyes. need anything just ask, thanks again.
John B
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No Problem John B. I thought I was losing my mind for a moment though.
Thank you and and all other contributors, for an informative tread. I am learning a lot.
Brian
Originally posted by John_Bedini View PostWrench76,
I see what your saying yes I did forget Sorry for that.
yes it would be 1.88 ohms but that is ok as the switch will run fine I did check it today it seem to work fine. I also took the switch down to 1 Ohm and it did ok. Sorry for the mistake but it was late when I got done at work.
I will go back and correct that post as soon as I get time. Thanks for catching that.........
John B
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Hi John B,
Thanks, that gives me confidence to stick with the MJE2955 TO220 that I am currently using.
As soon as I get some ATS137 halls from Rick I'll be back in action, no one in Australia seems to stock them that I can find. I'll send through an order when I get home from work.
John K.
Originally posted by John_Bedini View PostJohn K
I did want to get back to you on the switch The MPS 8599 is good for low level circuits. But looking at the circuit I tried a MJE2955 TO220 package and it worked fine under all the tests. I would rather get everything working right now for you at this end of the world. Or use a BD 244
John B
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Thanks John,
I will connect it and run it as you say. I also backed the timing off a bit and will start there.
I aready see some things I would have changed in the winding of the coils, but
these will be a good starting place.
Mark P.
Originally posted by John_Bedini View PostR12003,
Just hook up all the coils in parallel and get it running, then decide what you want to do with the two trigger wires. you should be safe doing that . make sure the devices have a been mounted to something like a heat sink plate. You might move a little off TDC like 1/2 the pole piece to start.
John B
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John K
I did want to get back to you on the switch The MPS 8599 is good for low level circuits. But looking at the circuit I tried a MJE2955 TO220 package and it worked fine under all the tests. I would rather get everything working right now for you at this end of the world. Or use a BD 244
John BLast edited by John_Bedini; 01-20-2011, 03:38 AM.
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R12003,
Just hook up all the coils in parallel and get it running, then decide what you want to do with the two trigger wires. you should be safe doing that . make sure the devices have a been mounted to something like a heat sink plate. You might move a little off TDC like 1/2 the pole piece to start.
John B
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Wrench76,
I see what your saying yes I did forget Sorry for that.
yes it would be 1.88 ohms but that is ok as the switch will run fine I did check it today it seem to work fine. I also took the switch down to 1 Ohm and it did ok. Sorry for the mistake but it was late when I got done at work.
I will go back and correct that post as soon as I get time. Thanks for catching that.........
John B
Originally posted by wrench76 View Post@ Les K
I did the math on John Bs figures, and I also got a total resistance of 1.822 ohms. Please forgive me if I misinterpret your post John. I believe only one slave coil was added in the equation."Now if I add all the coils together for a total I get this." JB
4.2, 1/x = .2348
6.368 1/x = .1570
So if that were the case,
4.2, 1/x= .2348 main
6.368, 1/x= .1570 slave 1
6.368, 1/x= .1570 slave 2
= 1/.5488 = 1.822
Again forgive me if I am wrong
BrianLast edited by John_Bedini; 01-20-2011, 03:10 AM.
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Why not just put three small caps across the 36v input, and only pull off of one will that work ?
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Hi Patrick,
Yes we can and that's what I was doing initially and it did work OK. I would like however to have all the circuitry on one board and in a box, same as John B.
I tend to struggle with stuff I haven't done before, but it's the only way I learn. Even if I do blow a few components along the way. Everything I have learnt about John B's technology I have either read, seen on a DVD, or taken advice from people on forums on the Internet. I think I really learn when I let the smoke out of things.
I'm also very fortunate to work closely with a few people who know a lot more about this stuff than I do, even if they're on the other side of the world from me.
John K.
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Originally posted by John_K View PostThanks all for your responses.
The hall I was using was a 24V SS443A:
SS443A pdf, SS443A description, SS443A datasheets, SS443A view ::: ALLDATASHEET :::
The 15V Zener I am using is a 1N4744:
The hall triggers a MJE2955, which then fires the MJL21193/94 pair.
I will order the ATS137 as John B suggested, looks like they are the same one Rick sells. http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/ATS137.pdf
John K.
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Wrench76,
4.2 ohms is = to .2348
6.3 Ohms is = to .1570
Add them together you get .3918 1/ X= 2.55 Ohms
DO IT WITH RESISTORS, DON'T BELIEVE ME, TEST YOURSELF.
Two resistors
4 ohms 1/X = .25
6 ohms 1/X = 1.6
add them together = 4.1, 1/X = 2.4 ohms
ANSWER IS 2.4 OHMS
Do it by putting two resistors together you will see.
Do it simple 100 ohms 1/X = .01
100 ohms 1/X = .01
add them together = .02 1/X = 50 ohms.
Again. 12 ohms 15 ohms 30 ohms
12 Ohms 1/X = .08
15 Ohms 1/X = .06
30 Ohms 1/X = .03
Add them together= .17 1/X = 5.8 Ohms
Ok I goofed up I did Correct it.
John BLast edited by John_Bedini; 01-19-2011, 11:13 PM.
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