Renaissance November Workshop Convention

[John_K]

Some Pic's of Rick's Lawn Mower, Electrical, OU, window motor driven.


Thanks
Jeff

PS Get these pic's while you can as I have to delete to make more space.

Hey jeff,

Did you remove the pics already? Can you email them to me please?


John K.

[Matthew Jones]

Just goes to show that there actually are over 1.0 cop machines being
made by most large companies like that. Such as refrigerators,
geothermal heat pumps, etc... They all violate classical thermodynamics.
So just about everyone has "overunity" machines and never even knew
it.
Anyone can go to the dept of energy website and see all the cop ranges
for these kind of systems.
I've seen heat pumps overseas rated at more than COP 7.0. Not sure if
they're going to bring them into the U.S. at that high of output. When
they get into these kind of ranges, they can be made to self run.

Water Furnace Has Geothermal heat pumps in those ranges already. They have commercial products for refrigeration and heat that they claim is as high as a COP of 10.
American Made!
The one I own has a COP of 5.7 . $15 a month to run on an average use in a normal home.

Matt

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

More Pics

some lovely pictures there. i hope people will keep posting more.

Enjoy!

Jeff

[esaruoho]

here are some pictures of the big system, just being reported
John
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some lovely pictures there. i hope people will keep posting more.

[Aaron]

over 1.0 cop

What's up with the GE PR?.

Just goes to show that there actually are over 1.0 cop machines being
made by most large companies like that. Such as refrigerators,
geothermal heat pumps, etc... They all violate classical thermodynamics.

So just about everyone has "overunity" machines and never even knew
it.

Anyone can go to the dept of energy website and see all the cop ranges
for these kind of systems.

I've seen heat pumps overseas rated at more than COP 7.0. Not sure if
they're going to bring them into the U.S. at that high of output. When
they get into these kind of ranges, they can be made to self run.

There are even heat pump hot water heaters you can sit on top of your
hot water tank. They draw 600 watts and make as much hot water as
3000 watts normal resistive elements. That is a COP of 5.0. Heat moves
for free - that is natures free contribution but you still have to invest
something to start the partnership going between what you are providing
and what nature is providing. Most heat pump hot water heaters in the
states are not much more than 3.0~3.5 or so.

So anyone griping about there not being any over 1.0 cop machines
is out of touch with reality and simply don't know how to recognize one
when it is right in front of them.

Of course heat systems are the "quintessential" over 1.0 cop system as
the cop concept was created for them.

For example, even Wiki the fake encyclopedia states:
Coefficient of performance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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A geothermal heat pump operating at COPheating 3.5 provides 3.5 units of heat for each unit of energy consumed (i.e. 1 kWh consumed would provide 3.5 kWh of output heat). The output heat comes from both the heat source and 1 kWh of input energy, so the heat-source is cooled by 2.5 kWh, not 3.5 kWh.


A heat pump of COPheating 3.5, such as in the example above, could be less expensive to use than even the most efficient gas furnace.
A heat pump cooler operating at COPcooling 2.0 removes 2 units of heat for each unit of energy consumed (e.g. an air conditioner consuming 1 kWh would remove heat from a building's air at a rate of 2 kWh).


The COP of heat pumps (300%-350% efficient) make them much more efficient than high-efficiency gas-burning furnaces (90-99% efficient), and electric heating (100%).



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Of course they are incorrectly using 300%-350% "efficient" as efficiency
would be TOTAL INPUT (what you pay + what nature gives) compared to
output. COP does NOT include what natures inputs. Just what you

pay compared to all the output. So Wiki gets the COP right but calling it
300%-350% "efficient" is wrong.


All the heat pumps are under 100% efficient because there are still losses
when running the compressor, etc... but they're over 1.0 cop.


So bottom line... anyone that owns a refrigerator and is wondering when
they'll ever see an over 1.0 cop machine quite simply doesn't even have
the qualifications to be a skeptic.

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

It was
able to pick up and/or interfere with SR71 (blackbird) communications, which of course
is classified. I don't even know if they still fly those things. Used to see
them (mostly heard them) on a daily basis when I lived on Kadena AFB
on Okinawa around 76-77. They took off every day in the afternoon.

They got their hand slapped hard for that one. I don't know
anything about radio frequency circuits so not sure how all
that works but just an example of interesting things that happen with
opposed windings.

I used to maintain the equipment for this bird, and my boss in the millitary was a pilot of them. Well ahead of its time. Aaron, whats really hard to see is the same aircraft you used to work on, hanging in a museum. Its true.

Jeff

[Aaron]

reverse winding

Here is my coil design Matt is talking about.

Thanks

Jeff

Thanks Jeff - I started to tune out of the Tesla Switch thread when it got
into all the programming so I didn't keep up with it. I've never learned about
the digital circuits.

@All, the reversed winding deal - a friend of mine in N Idaho is a mechanical
engineer. His partner died several years back and was an EE that helped to
develop a lot of the communications equipment for the Apollo missions.

They had a coil wound on a tube and inside that was another coil that
slipped inside of that on another tube. I think it was in that caduceus
coil type of arrangement. It was
able to pick up and/or interfere with SR71 (blackbird) communications, which of course
is classified. I don't even know if they still fly those things. Used to see
them (mostly heard them) on a daily basis when I lived on Kadena AFB
on Okinawa around 76-77. They took off every day in the afternoon.

They got their hand slapped hard for that one. I don't know
anything about radio frequency circuits so not sure how all
that works but just an example of interesting things that happen with
opposed windings.

[electricity]

Free Energy Machine

@ Aaron,
Thank you for your attempted clarification of the Big Question, I do have a good picture yet wordless in expression, feels like when trying to describe the color blue. One day we eradicate the all of the speculations.

What's up with the GE PR?.
My first attempted replication was the Bearden MEG. Boy do I have a story to tell. Ultra-efficient transformer cores made with Honeywell's METGLAS amorphous metal is non existent today. I followed the GE trail, now Hitatchi has a totally different composition

@ John Bedini,
Could you please look over my attempt replication of the Watson and provide pointers if you may.

[Aaron]

@John

John,

I'm looking forward to people doing some replications based on Peter's talk.
Even people that didn't get to the conference can get the dvd in about 2
weeks or so as far as I know - plus it is a fairly inexpensive machine to
build the way Peter shows in the slides. When I get a chance, I want
to do this same build.

I'd like to do a smaller version of your monster machine too. That was
completely over the top in more than one way! lol

Yes - I had an INCREDIBLE time! Was lots of fun, I learned a lot and met
a bunch of really incredible people.

I'll give you a call.

[minoly]

Inner reverse wind

Here is my coil design Matt is talking about.

Thanks

Jeff

[John_Bedini]

Marvin Cole

Aaron,
I see your point but that motor is not worth anything except historical detail Nothing can be learned from it. Peter already gave everybody the answer on how the real systems works so why use high voltage. Hope you had a good time. But if people do not get what was said to them then good luck for power in the future. We need to talk anyway when you get a chance.
John B

[Aaron]

Marvin Cole / Ed Gray machines

John Riley has that motor and he has a bunch of other machines from
Zetex like the trigger carts, etc...

But to my understanding from Mark McKay's documentation that this
motor you see in the video has been changed. The coils were rewound
with larger wire and other changes so that it is not an "overunity"
machine anymore.

If Mark sees this, maybe he can elaborate on that. I heard John R.
wants like $250,000 for all those machines but none are "free energy".

[John_Bedini]

Bedini Motor

here are some pictures of the big system, just being reported
John
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[John_Bedini]

Gray Motor

That Motor is not the Gray motor it is the orignal Cole Motor. You know why It is useing a Delco Generator.
Good Find.
John B

....Sorry for interrupting the flow....

John Bedini is making his first public demonstration in 20+ years, and now this....

What appears to be a complete Gray motor has been found.....

YouTube - EV Gray Motor Found!

Did I miss the memo? Did the powers that be lift the ban on these technologies? Its been said that big things come in threes.....whats next?

Regards

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Hey Bits,
I have been experimenting with the window motor kit B and been posting on the thread : " http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=2179 "

I still havent figured the tuning of the motor completely . Have you had a chance to play around with the circuit ? If so ,
1) Any idea how to get the best torque out of the system . I have 3 full bipolar Bedidni-cole circuits that rick had provided with the kit .
2) What arrangement of coils do you recommend ? Is it like the one shown in the picture you posted or is it wrapping around the rotor as shown in potentialtec.
3) I have been wanting to build a neodymium motor myself . Is the arrangment of magnets different than what it is on Window motor kit b ( hexagon rotor( 2 inch on all sides ) with magnets ( covering the 2 inch sides completely on rotor ) . I ask this because i remember having read somewhere that the magnets cant be this close when dealing with neodymiums ...

Maybe the details of discussion are appropriate for the specific thread . But i dont know if you frequent them. So , i posted it right here when we are talking about the window motor . Will move the post with answers later to the specific thread...

Thanks for the 10 coiler demo. That is the only tutorial we have on the 10 coiler !!!

Bhargav

Thanks, you should start a window motor thread and I'll stop by from time to time.