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  • Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Matt's motor is one of these, (12 volts in but 14+ volts out
    Don't forget that it is watts, not volts, that count. Do you
    have power in and power out data?

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    • I agree

      I agree Turion, but if we all contribute from our experiments it builds up a database.

      One experiment I haven't tried but is in my plans is to build an electret for the third battery. It seems to me that we need a device which
      1 holds high voltage -
      2 has little or no current capabilities but which has
      3 high resistance. A conditioned microwave oven cap might do it because some of then have an internal resistor. However some of them probably do not, which may explain the differing results.
      Every time I've wrecked an inverter has been because of spike electricity (radiant energy).
      If you put in a neon to protect your inverter you may lose the spike at the high frequencies we need.
      On the other hand if the pulse rate goes up then the voltage comes down so it may work.
      I think Kapanadze gets round this problem by introducing a step down isolation hand wound transformer (bifilar). He also uses polythene and polystyrene HV shielding, and braid wire for insulating the high spikes.
      I think we would all be mighty curious to see your setup.
      Last edited by a.king21; 07-01-2013, 12:59 AM.

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      • Last edited by Duncan; 07-01-2013, 10:50 AM.
        Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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        • Exciting fluids

          Hi Turion n All

          There are some electrolyte ideas in Pat 19,161. Note that azotic acid is the old name for nitric acid.

          Regards

          John


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          • john_g,
            Thanks for the info. A number of us are working on some batteries for the third position using different electrolyte. This gives us some more things to consider.

            Duncan,
            You always make my brain hurt. LOL. Guess we will have to give this a shot and see what happens!

            Dave

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            • Too Complicated

              Duncan,
              Lol, I'm just following your lead. Now I have a question for you. Where did the idea for a neon bulb come from? Who used spark gaps to excite the aether? What is a neon, but a low voltage........ Spark Gap. What if the voltage was to break through the electrodes, but not quite enough to perceptionally light the bulb? In your setup.

              What if the third battery is nothing more than a passive ground AND tuning inductor for a short while?

              Ok, more than one question. Curious minds. Things are starting to make sense. Tesla did infer we are building a conduit to nature. Subblefield, below the ground to just above ground zero. Tesla, above the ground to below. Same with the other Tesla students, Don Smith, TK, and a few others that have claimed success. I think we have the ingredients to the recipe, just have a few proportions wrong. Time to bake another cake.

              Randy
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              • Tried that too

                Originally posted by erfinder View Post
                That is what I thought you tried....this isn't what my suggestion to Turion was.... I am suggesting one try a completely crystallized battery.... A lead acid battery which has been completely ruined (in the conventional sense...crystallized) using the Bedini demonstrated process...

                Quote:

                "This mystery persisted for years. I have talked to some older engineers who report that local telegraph stations remained in operation despite the fact that their batteries had not been recharged for a great number of years. When the battery was examined it was actually dried out and physically corroded. Yet the signals continued." Stubblefield

                End quote...
                Hey erfinder,
                I tried a couple dried up, crystallized batteries which did not work for me. Matt has worked with various dried up batteries to a greater extent. As he did not report success, I'm going to guess he had the same results as I overall. He has said he'll report anything worthy. He is a man of great conscious and honor.

                All of my successes was with fully hydrated batteries and crystallized to the max. After dissecting my successful batteries, all of them had dissolved the connectors between the positive plates to black stubs. Of course I did put one hell of a strain on those little batteries.
                Randy
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                • what if ...

                  Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                  • toil and trouble...

                    I make no pretence to understanding the cauldron stuff



                    still this is the patent that caught my attention and might interest some of you hubble bubble toil and trouble guys.
                    Lead-acid battery electrolyte fluid solution additive - US Patent 5945236 Description
                    Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                    • Weird Stuff

                      Someone posted some weird stuff here and, suddenly, Poof" it was gone, so our moderators apparently did not like it, which is fine by me. I don't believe it had anything to do with this thread.

                      Dave.
                      Last edited by Turion; 07-03-2013, 03:57 AM.

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                      • I reported it as spam.

                        Matt

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                        • Thanks Matt. Didn't think of even doing that.

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                          • Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                            I make no pretence to understanding the cauldron stuff



                            still this is the patent that caught my attention and might interest some of you hubble bubble toil and trouble guys.
                            Lead-acid battery electrolyte fluid solution additive - US Patent 5945236 Description
                            I do find that service a dog's dinner. I always use this:

                            Retrieving Patent from PAT2PDF.org - Free PDF copies of patents: Download and print!

                            where, obviously, XXXXXXX is the number of the US patent you want.

                            (or you can go to PAT2PDF - Free PDF copies of patents: Download and print! and let people put the number in the box.

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                            • tis much better...
                              Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                              • What John Bedini had to say

                                @All,
                                These diagrams come about from the original Tesla Switch this is something that we used to find potential charge. for example you can move charges with the same polarity.
                                We could never get anybody to study the results. My German Friend told a story of charging single dry cell batteries by rubbing his Keys across them. I showed him the circuits your working with here, he said it worked every time with a mechanical switch. It had something to do with the sparking, or a single pulse. You could call this a spike of voltage. He worked for NASA and the information vanished one day So I'm sure they got the system working and he never was seen again. People have seen some strange effects from this arrangement providing the batteries were rotating electronically at 10 Hz. when the machine was stopped all batteries were charged to full. The load was set by a single resistor or a 12 volt car tail light.


                                I wanted to repost this because one of the things that has occurred to me is that if we DID rotate all 3 batteries through the third position, might they become somehow "matched" to each other, and what might that do to the setup? I think it is worth exploring. It would be a Tesla switch type of arrangement would it not? Anyway, there are some of you out there sharp enough to give that a try who are interested?

                                Dave

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