3 Battery Generating System

[Wallywonka]

Hi Turion,

You are extremely close to what it is you seek.

[Turion]

Wallywonka,

We believe so. Which is why we are working so hard on this. I'm sure there are folks out there who have answers already, and are not sharing, and more who are waiting in the wings to see what we come up with. If we were all involved in this together, we might be able to figure this thing out. But one way or another, we will continue down this road until we have a working system. And as long as we keep it all out in the open, those whocome after us can follow the same path.

Dave

[Duncan]

What is the relationship of the frequency with the fundamental in the square wave frequency response?
Is given this response
A square wave is produced by odd harmonics of a fundamental wave. So it contains the fundamental frequency plus the 3rd, 5th, 7th and so on harmonics.
On this forum

What is the relationship of the frequency with the fundamental in the square wave frequency responseSo, naturalists observe, a flea Hath smaller fleas that on him prey; And these have smaller still to bit 'em; And so proceed ad infinitum. Thus every poet, in his kind, Is bit by him that comes behind.
Dean Jonathan Swift .. 1733Sine Wave to Square Wave using Fourier Series - YouTubeShe's right. For example, just as Fourier used an infinite sum of Sine waves to recreate a square wave, you can also use an infinite sum of square waves to make a sine wave.
(What did you wager?)
on this science page

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watch for the centre tap! The state of that construction .. there's hope for my building skills yet! It is the centre tap I was using (for the same reason) when I ran through the resonant points of a battery with this circuit

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[Skeptic]

Turion - I hope that you realize by now that even if my suggested "Proof of Concept" test should fail, you will never get an "I told you so" from me. Only encouragement to continue. So please do not hesitate to report any negative results along the way. It's only information to add to our knowledge.

[Turion]

Skeptic,
I have not yet run the tests, although at this point, based upon what we now know, I believe long term tests with lead acid batteries are likely to fail.

I have been up in wine country in Northern CA for four days, relaxing in a mountain cabin with friends, touring the vineyards and wine tasting. My wife is a big wine fan, and we came home with many bottles. I could take it or leave it, but she puts up with my "motor" hobby as she calls it, so I support her in the things she likes to do also. So I took four days for that, and yesterday I spent getting unpacked and organized.

I have a few things to take care of today, but I will definitely run the tests. I believe, however, that it will be necessary to run those same tests with AGM batteries in order to produce the results we want folks to see. However, I think it is important to run the tests with lead acid so we can rule them OUT of further consideration. So from THAT perspective, I believe the tests to be an important step.

Anyway, I will run those tests today, and I always report back here...both successes and failures. I have had many,MANY failures over the last five years, but I have also had some incredible runs which proved to me beyond a doubt that I am on the right track. So failure at THIS point is not a deterrent, only a sign that I took the wrong fork on the road and must backtrack and rethink my choice.

Duncan. I can assure you that Matt is not the disinformation agent you seem to believe he is. I have spent many, MANY hours talking with him on the phone and by email, and he has things working that other people on these forums would KILL to have built. He has been incredibly patient in helping me to build a few of them, so I know where his heart lies when it comes to free energy research. His theories and ideas are based on what he has SEEN from the many, many, MANY builds he has made. You two may not be in agreement on theory, but perhaps we can all achieve the same goal although we approach it from different directions.

I am just incredibly thankful that we have some folks here who will build this stuff and test it. That's the ONLY way we are ever going to figure this out.

Dave

[Duncan]

"If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured, or far away. "

Henry David Thoreau

[Zardox]

[Duncan]

[Skeptic]

Turion - Thanks. I'm so glad that you allowed me to contribute, and find the proof of concept testing to be useful. A successful test would be so convincing to a wider audience since it does not require detail knowledge of 3BGS, only assurance that no conventional outside energy was added during the test. Do you think a load tester would be a valid way to test AGMs?

Oh, had a small (550 maH) LiPo go postal on me Tuesday. What a show it was! Sparks and everything! Partially melted the "LiPo Firesafe" charge safety envelope it was in and filled a small room with toxic gas and smoke (held my breath to stay long enough to make sure it didn't burn the house down). can't imagine what damage my Razr Maxx 3200 maH battery would do in that situation.

[Matthew Jones]

Wow. Thats a first. You have real head problems Duncan.

We'll let you continue to rant though as that seems to be all your capable of.

Good Luck ya'll. I had good news to report but wouldn't want any of my dis info to further ruin this project.

Matt

[CrystalDipoleMatrix]

No more bull****.

By now, all theories are complete bull**** to me. SHOW ME that it works for real and repeatable and will spread the news. Before that, kepping mouths shut will save everybody pages of crappy non-sense for the genaral population. No need to be sarcastic or emotional here. It's all science. It's all it is. Pseudo-science is for people with lack of intelligence and no life and/or social life and need attention. Ignorance and stupidity can drive anybody crazy about so called ''free energy devices''. Nothing is free and all the energy come from somewhere. That's my point of view. Keep up the good work guys. Someday, it will pays off. Duncan you're an intelligent man and really aware of things but really, you're talking wayyyy too much. lol

A simple question for David: Why AGM and not SLA'S ? Are'nt they the same thing? Thanks, jean.

[Matthew Jones]

So I had talk with David and cheered up. I have never been accused of being a disinformationist but what the hell let idiots ride. I can forgive them but they may not forgive themselves. Its just to bad I admire him so much for the wealth of knowledge he holds in his head.

I did a test run this morning with a set of dead batteries that I conditioned to the negative. I posted that psuedo schematic... If need be just ask I'll post an exact schematic of what I used and what can be used.

Both primary batteries charged.

To me this says bad batteries can be conditioned into the state we want them..

Contrary to popular belief I have not tested the choke system as I am waiting on Chokes from Digikey. So I have not even tried anything in my HAYSTACK yet.

BUT guarantee if it works I'll share it with ya and if doesn't well I'll share that with ya too.

Making it work is the goal, and F*ck the complexity.

Matt

[tachyoncatcher]

Middle Cap

So I had talk with David and cheered up. I have never been accused of being a disinformationist but what the hell let idiots ride. I can forgive them but they may not forgive themselves. Its just to bad I admire him so much for the wealth of knowledge he holds in his head.

I did a test run this morning with a set of dead batteries that I conditioned to the negative. I posted that psuedo schematic... If need be just ask I'll post an exact schematic of what I used and what can be used.

Both primary batteries charged.

To me this says bad batteries can be conditioned into the state we want them..

Contrary to popular belief I have not tested the choke system as I am waiting on Chokes from Digikey. So I have not even tried anything in my HAYSTACK yet.

BUT guarantee if it works I'll share it with ya and if doesn't well I'll share that with ya too.

Making it work is the goal, and F*ck the complexity.

Matt

That's awesome Matt. I too had a good run last night with cap in the middle like your drawing. Didn't get to run too long though, 2 min. Had a inverter on the buffer/s with a 150watt load. Motor kept increasing, last rpm read was 2100 rpm, meters were useless, then my inverter popped. Damn! It literally made a pop noise, no smoke or burnt electronic smell like the other ones. I was trying to get my scope hooked up at the time so I'm not sure exactly what was going on, but at the end of it all, my primaries and buffer/s were over 13v and my transducers were at 0. Good find.

Any drawing you can do would help. Heck, maybe the motor is just acting as a big, switching choke in this circuit. Kinda like what @wsxian2 was finding with his dual motor setup. I thought it was taking the reqauging magnetic field of those motors to get it done. Now I wonder. Lots to test.

Randy

[Turion]

Randy,
Ask yourself why an inverter would blow like that. It's the same thing I have seen. There is so much more voltage when this thing is working than the buffer battery can handle. And the inverter isn't made to work at more than about 16 volts. So when you are getting 18+ and the the buffer and primaries are charging, something's gotta give and it is usually the inverter. I have smoked more than a few over the last five years and that is why I have gone to the CHEAP ones. I tried using a voltage regulator off the third battery in the 3BGS, and that was a big help. I quit blowing inverters, so maybe you should consider that for your buffer. It's what I am using. I got it from the place that sells stuff for solar systems. Connect it to the buffer and the inverter to it.

Dave

[shylo]

Crazy

Well I 'm not sure and don't care.
Duncan provides lots of reading, which I only have time for about 10/.
Matt builds things.
You can draw it on paper, but building it will show you.
No matter what I've done so far ,the primaries still drop.
The runs work on a certain cycle, that is it goes up and it goes down..

If you could cycle the batteries out , on the high...that's something I'll look at.

artv