3 Battery Generating System

[MonsieurM]

We tend to look at our batteries as a power source, but as a device they are much more. Think about the construction of a battery as compared to a capacitor. Think about the hardened sulfate in a dead battery as a dielectric. Better dielectric, better electrostatic conversion. You say a dielectric stores, not converts? Unique things happen to a capacitor and its dielectric when "vibrated".


Most definitely.

Randy

just wanted to bring your attention to Dielectric Constants of various materials

one is found in batteries : ( What is Sulfation and How Does it Affect My Battery? | Impact Battery Blog )

Lead Sulfate 14.3 ( see also triboelectricity )

and this one was often discussed in this forum :

Copper Oxide 18.1




ps: so a Battery is a Condenser / Static Machine / Crystal Radio



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A New Oxide Of Copper Battery .... Hodges, James & Smith - Turn The People On - YouTube

The energy contained in an oxide of copper and potash battery is very great, and far superior to that stored by an accumulator of the same weight,

Read more: A New Oxide Of Copper Battery

[MonsieurM]

In those early years, science believed radiation had therapeutic properties and was used to try and treat a variety of ailments. We now know the dangers of the crude radiation they used to "treat" people. However, science is just beginning to recognize the benefit of various oscillations of electricity for the treatment of many ailments. A study sparked by Tesla and expanded on by Rife. This field is just beginning, so much was lost with Rife's death. A bit off topic, but worthy of note.

Randy

Indeed Rife took it to a whole new level ... Great Man check out also : Medical Applications - WikiRota .... an interesting read



also brings us back to resonance and square waves

the sea of energy is not a bad choice of title by T Moray .... when looking at Osmosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .... simply put .... Wrinkle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Water-immersion wrinkling

suggested that the nervous system plays an essential role in wrinkling

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Thomas H. MORAY speech - Nu Energy ™

When capacitors of very high dielectric capabilities are charged with radiant energy from the plasma of the Universe and then discharged through a circuit of proper impedence, reactance and inductance, and the oscillations of the device are synchronized with those of the Universe and electrical inertia is set up, the oscillations of energy will continue as long as this relationship is maintained. That is, in the reversal of the current the capacitors are charged and discharged and recharged and discharged slowly until the energy originally stored in them is delivered as kinetic energy through the device and, as I stated before, this activity is kept alive indefinitely, not by the mechanical breaking of lines of force, but by the oscillatory breaking of lines of the forces of the Universe through established resonance

Thomas H. MORAY speech - Nu Energy ™

All energies of the plasma of the Universe have resilient rigidity and density, which is subject to displacement and strain. When a resilient substance is subject to strain and then set free, one of two things will happen, The substance will slowly recover from the strain and gradually obtain its natural state or the elastic recoil will carry it past its position of equilibrium and cause it to execute a series of oscillations. Something of the same sort will also occur when an electrified capacitor is discharged through special high frequency valves. In ordinary language, there will be a continuous flow of electricity in one direction

[tom5200]

I found some pictures on a russian site can someone tell me if might work ?that is the book https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7F-...?usp=drive_web page 41 to 46

[tachyoncatcher]

Oscillation

I have found that, be enveloping a patient in a high potential, high frequency field in such a manner that no closed circuit is completed through his body, radioactive and other electronic and radiation phenomena can be used therapeutically with considerably greater effectiveness than if used alone. The exact reason for this is not known, nor is it known definitely which, the electric field or the radioactive phenomena, acts upon the other to produce the advantageous results. It is thought, however, that the electric field permeating the body of the patient as it does attracts the radioactive emanations or radiations and enables them to penetrate considerably deeper into the tissues and vital organs of the patient than would otherwise be the case. In any event, remarkable therapeutic results have been achieved by use of the invention in the treatment of malignant tumors. Arthritis, sinus infections, and various other diseased conditions.

Thomas H. Moray: Transmutation of Low Grade Ores by High Energy Bombardment

In those early years, science believed radiation had therapeutic properties and was used to try and treat a variety of ailments. We now know the dangers of the crude radiation they used to "treat" people. However, science is just beginning to recognize the benefit of various oscillations of electricity for the treatment of many ailments. A study sparked by Tesla and expanded on by Rife. This field is just beginning, so much was lost with Rife's death. A bit off topic, but worthy of note.

Randy

[MonsieurM]

We tend to look at our batteries as a power source, but as a device they are much more. Think about the construction of a battery as compared to a capacitor. Think about the hardened sulfate in a dead battery as a dielectric. Better dielectric, better electrostatic conversion. You say a dielectric stores, not converts? Unique things happen to a capacitor and its dielectric when "vibrated".


Most definitely.

Randy

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[(1) That lines of force also appear between conductors carrying an electrostatic charge can be shown by interposing between them a glass vessel filled with oil of turpentine and crystals of quinine sulfate.Gustave LeBon: The Evolution of Forces ~ Part II

4. Mechanism of the Leak of Electrical Charges from Insulating Bodies

Electricity is able to diffuse itself in conducting bodies by conduction, convection, and influence. How does its diffusion take place in non-conducting bodies the pressure of the insulating gas and of the equally insulating ether which surround it. When there is no longer equilibrium between these antagonistic actions, the electricity partly escapes. ( see reverse osmosis )




My researches prove that this loss of electricity by an insulating body is effected in two ways: (1) by convection -- that is to say, by the emission of particles; and (2) by conduction -- that is to say, by propagation along an electrified body to one of its extremities, as in the case of conductors.

This last mode of propagation, evidently contrary to the reigning theories, can be put in evidence by the following experiment: --

Procure some rods of ebonite or of paraffin about 1 meter long. After having electrified them at one of their extremities by rubbing them for a length of only 2 centimeters, the unelectrified end is placed in contact with a conducting body connected with the ball of an electroscope. No displacement of the gold leaves is noticed at first, but by prolonging the contact for a few minutes the instrument becomes slowly changed. The electricity is therefore propagated along the unelectrified part.

This experiment shows that, in reality, electricity is able to propagate itself in insulators as well as in conductors, but much more slowly in the first-named case than in the second. When we speak of the velocity of electricity, therefore, it must be said that, according to the body employed, it circulates with a rapidity varying from a few centimeters to 300,000 kilometers per second.

I have found that, be enveloping a patient in a high potential, high frequency field in such a manner that no closed circuit is completed through his body, radioactive and other electronic and radiation phenomena can be used therapeutically with considerably greater effectiveness than if used alone. The exact reason for this is not known, nor is it known definitely which, the electric field or the radioactive phenomena, acts upon the other to produce the advantageous results. It is thought, however, that the electric field permeating the body of the patient as it does attracts the radioactive emanations or radiations and enables them to penetrate considerably deeper into the tissues and vital organs of the patient than would otherwise be the case. In any event, remarkable therapeutic results have been achieved by use of the invention in the treatment of malignant tumors. Arthritis, sinus infections, and various other diseased conditions.

Thomas H. Moray: Transmutation of Low Grade Ores by High Energy Bombardment

ps:: sorry for the repeat .... Dielectric Properties of Body Tissues: Home page


see also : http://www.energeticforum.com/242129-post622.html

[MonsieurM]

Most definitely.

Randy

...

Most generally I employed receiving circuits
in the form of loops, including condensers, because the discharges of my high-tension transmitter
ionized the air in the hall so that even a very small aerial would draw electricity from the
surrounding atmosphere for hours


My Inventions by Nikola Tesla Autobiography YouTube - YouTube

The loop form of receiver was not sensitive to such a disturbance
and it is curious to note that it is becoming popular at this late date. In reality it collects much less
energy than the aerials or a long grounded wire,

From many other considerations it appeared desirable to invent a simpler device for the
production of electric oscillations. In 1856 Lord Kelvin had exposed the theory of the condenser
discharge, but no practical application of that important knowledge was made. I saw the
possibilities and undertook the development of induction apparatus on this principle. My progress
was so rapid as to enable me to exhibit at my lecture in 1891 a coil giving sparks of five inches.

A capacitor (originally known as a condenser) is a passive two-terminal electrical component used to store energy electrostatically in an electric field.

[tachyoncatcher]

We're getting there

We tend to look at our batteries as a power source, but as a device they are much more. Think about the construction of a battery as compared to a capacitor. Think about the hardened sulfate in a dead battery as a dielectric. Better dielectric, better electrostatic conversion. You say a dielectric stores, not converts? Unique things happen to a capacitor and its dielectric when "vibrated".

so a Battery can be viewed as Electro-Static Generators ( under certain conditions )

Most definitely.

Randy

[Turion]

MonsieurM

Interesting you should mention this:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...iguera-22.html

I just copied and pasted some stuff from the last few posts and sent it to Luther. Little bits and pieces from everywhere coming together to make a picture of the whole.

I have a battery right now that I am still working on flipping the magnetic polarity on. Time will tell.

Dave

[MonsieurM]

My coil is about 9in so it fits under both transducers. I have tried various positions and that is the most beneficial.
Good Luck,

Randy

turion the following might interest you ( see also http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...iguera-22.html .... last couple posts )

It is quite different with electricity drawn from matter without the intervention of any chemical reagent -- that is to say, by friction or influence. The quantity of electricity then produced is extremely weak, but its tension extremely great. It may exceed 1500 volts from the friction of a simple rod of ebonite, and may easily attain 50,000 volts from the very smallest static machine used in a laboratory. In order to obtain the same voltage with batteries, it would be necessary -- the elements being added together -- to collect about 25,000 cells.

These differences greatly impressed the old physicists, and was the origin of the division set up between static and dynamic electricity -- so-called -- which weighed down science for over 50 years. Notwithstanding the apparent dissimilarities resulting from differences of tension, the electricity generated by a battery is identical with that produced by a static machine. The battery and the static machine both produce, when their poles are connected by a wire, an electric current surrounded by a magnetic field and able to deviate the needle of a galvanometer.

Gustave LeBon: The Evolution of Forces ~ Part II

A battery of which the poles are separated is in every way comparable to a static machine just charged, the poles of which are far apart. Alike between the poles of the machine and those of the battery, a certain difference of potential exists. When they are connected by a wire, the electricity flows one pole to the other, and it is this flow which constitutes the electric current. Since the electricity generated by chemical decomposition as in batteries, and that produced by simple friction in machines, do not differ, why has the electricity of a battery produced by chemical decompositions only a tension of one or two volts, while that obtained by simple friction attains a tension 20 or 30 thousand times as much? The textbooks are silent on this question.

so a Battery can be viewed as Electro-Static Generators ( under certain conditions )

[Turion]

Coil

Single strand bifilar, ok
multiple strand bifilar, better (I used stereo speaker wire)
litzed bifilar best.

Dave

[Sawt2]

Thank you I believe I will try that
Brian

My coil is about 9in so it fits under both transducers. I have tried various positions and that is the most beneficial.
Good Luck,
Randy

[tachyoncatcher]

Correct

For the bifilar pancake coil. Do you mean literally the coil is under one of the transducer batteries?
Brian

My coil is about 9in so it fits under both transducers. I have tried various positions and that is the most beneficial.
Good Luck,
Randy

[shylo]

110 Percent


JUST BUILD IT and see for yourself ,I did ,very simple, The 3BGS,..
And out of all the dead batteries I tried , only 2 didn't work.
So no excuses , and no arguments.
You will get longer run times with this set-up ,than you will with just series batteries. Period.
artv

[Sawt2]

For the bifilar pancake coil. Do you mean literally the coil is under one of the transducer batteries?
Brian

I use 5 batteries. All AGM 12v 7Ah. They are as follows:

• 2 source batteries, full charge, radiant conditioned. Charged with a SSG.

• 2 transducer batteries (3rd position), DEAD, no conditioning to start with. The ones I have been using with this setup have 0.1v and 6v. These charges have moved around about a volt during testing. Nothing significant.

• 1 Buffer battery, drained charge (11.5v to 12v), radiant conditioned. This I use for my loads.

I always use a load. After all, if it can't stand up to that what use is it? This is my test setup. My load is usually a 2000w msw inverter with a resistive load. Light bulb, 40-200w incandescent. I follow Turion's schematic except for:
My motor is on the positive side of the source. My buffer battery is connected to the transducer(3rd batteries) as Turion shows a load, my inverter is connected in parallel with the buffer battery. No resistors or diodes. This is my setup today. It changes with the wind.

Good Luck,
Randy

[tachyoncatcher]

Validation

Turion is being looked after, because the mainstream is interested, so no point in getting emotional.

There we go! Validation! How many of these threads have mainstream openly interested? Nuff said. Stuff to build. After all, it's the builds that show us results, not words.
Good luck with your Builds,
Randy