3 Battery Generating System

[tachyoncatcher]

Hi All

Yesterday I tried my first attempt to replicate the 5BGS and after along process of killing my two new AGM battery and then pulsing them according to what Dave recommended but I used basic stamp instead of Arduino and then my two batteries became both -1.2 ,-3.5 to be used as a transducer and drain my third AGM to 11.95 to be used as a buffer battery and I did all the connection according to Randy diagram but when I start the circuit the motor didn't run and I didn't use my hand to turn it because it was late and every body was sleeping but I have noticed that one of the traducers flip polarity and became positive +5.6 and the other one became negative -5.6 and my motor was loaded by another motor the same motor to be use later as a generator all my battery was SLA battery and they are all 7.2 Ah I used different automotive bulb as a load on the buffer battery .
I am using hand made plastic coupling for the motors I am still waiting for the coupling I ordered as Randy refer in one of his previous post my motors are ZY6812 they are 24vDC 120W.
I still can not figure why the motor didn't run but mor test will be done and mor details to be posted .
Any recommendation will be appreciated .

Ehsan

Ehsan,
Try running the motor on a 12v battery. If it won't start on that, you may have a problem with the motor. I have not used transducers made in that fashion, so I can't speak of their performance. It sounds as if there is not enough impedance in those 2 transducers. Disconnect the positives and put a AC cap rated for 24v or greater between the positives. If it then runs, then I refer you to Dave who has experience with those type of transducers.
Good Luck,
Randy

[ehsanco1062]

First attempt of 5BGS

Hi All

Yesterday I tried my first attempt to replicate the 5BGS and after along process of killing my two new AGM battery and then pulsing them according to what Dave recommended but I used basic stamp instead of Arduino and then my two batteries became both -1.2 ,-3.5 to be used as a transducer and drain my third AGM to 11.95 to be used as a buffer battery and I did all the connection according to Randy diagram but when I start the circuit the motor didn't run and I didn't use my hand to turn it because it was late and every body was sleeping but I have noticed that one of the traducers flip polarity and became positive +5.6 and the other one became negative -5.6 and my motor was loaded by another motor the same motor to be use later as a generator all my battery was SLA battery and they are all 7.2 Ah I used different automotive bulb as a load on the buffer battery .
I am using hand made plastic coupling for the motors I am still waiting for the coupling I ordered as Randy refer in one of his previous post my motors are ZY6812 they are 24vDC 120W.
I still can not figure why the motor didn't run but mor test will be done and mor details to be posted .
Any recommendation will be appreciated .

Ehsan

[Mario]

Electret

The Townsend Brown application seems very similar to the process of making an electret capacitor, beeswax or carnauba wax seems to bee the key. Do a google search with "capacitors that recharge themselves pdf".

This and pulsing a battery inverted is one of the things I intend to try when I'm done with the scalar charger experiments.

Mario

[MonsieurM]

MonsieurM,
That is the patent I was thinking of. I have a paper copy of it in my notebooks.

Dave

from the description looks very similar to :



A New Oxide Of Copper Battery

just Townsend took it to the next level Townsend Brown Battery Patent Application


ps / most of these Inventors / Discoverer seem to love Wires deep in the Ground ( earthing ) ..... and i don't think it is because of how we perceive grounding today .... Tesla said Earth is like a metallic ball ( with insulation around ) ... Moray ... Rota .... etc same pattern

makes you wonder

Townsend Brown "Rock" Partial Patent Application

Partial PRELIMINARY PATENT DESCRIPTION "Rock"
T. Townsend Brown
BACKGROUND:

Careful observations, conducted over a period of years, have revealed the existence of a "steady state" electrical self-potential spontaneously developed by certain semi-conductors. Exploratory work with various semi-conducting material has revealed massive high-K dielectrics, being heavy semi-conducting materials with high dielectric constant, produce the greatest self-potential. Solid dieliectrics such as barium titanate, lead zirconate titanate and certain natural rocks (granite, basalt, etc.) are found to produce this electrical self-potential. The origin of the self-potential referred to in this application is believed to be not hitherto known or identified. It is not piezoelectric, pyroelectric or electrochemialc in origin.

Tesla's Colorado lab was located in a highly geomagnetic location.



Magnifying transmitter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and Clemente lived in the canary islands : The distribution of basaltic volcanism on Tenerife, Canary Islands: Implications on the origin and dynamics of the rift systems



if you have to look differently at a Battery ( ie Condenser ) ... it would be appropriate to also look at other parts of the system differently

what you call ground is actually made of multiple Strata ( Stratum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )



in terms of frequency ..... it can be viewed as a gradient ( Pressure Gradient - Geography For Kids - By KidsGeo.com )

[Turion]

T. Townsend Brown

MonsieurM,
That is the patent I was thinking of. I have a paper copy of it in my notebooks.

Dave

[MonsieurM]

One of the best runs I ever had was with UFO's modified "Asymmetrical" motor. I was able to run loads off the inverter and the primaries increased in voltage during the run.
We have been using stock, off the shelf motors simply because ANYONE can do the experiments with those motors. If we can get a setup that gives us stable performance, then adding a modified motor will only enhance the results.

Just curious if anyone here has seen T. Townsend Brown's patent for a battery. Simple to build and supposedly, once charged, it supplies endless voltage

Dave

you mean the following link : Townsend Brown Battery Patent Application

The active ingredient of the subject battery is a massive high-K dielectric material, such as heavy metal oxides or carbides

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LutherG explains the "why not" with this system, better than I ever could.


Randy

Thank you .... will have to check on what he means by Memory ....

also check out James Y Johnson -- Dipolar resonance -- Anomalous dispersion bands , believe he came to the same conclusion as other mentioned discoverers

[tachyoncatcher]

Chapter2 - Magnetics

just a " dumb" question .... but if you replace the motor with SSTC 12V - Solid State Tesla Coil - YouTube ... wouldn't we have a better effect on the vibes



see also : 12v Solid State Mini Tesla Coil with Circuit Diagram - YouTube

LutherG explains the "why not" with this system, better than I ever could.

Its about magnetic field polarity and memory

Randy

[Turion]

One of the best runs I ever had was with UFO's modified "Asymmetrical" motor. I was able to run loads off the inverter and the primaries increased in voltage during the run.
We have been using stock, off the shelf motors simply because ANYONE can do the experiments with those motors. If we can get a setup that gives us stable performance, then adding a modified motor will only enhance the results.

Just curious if anyone here has seen T. Townsend Brown's patent for a battery. Simple to build and supposedly, once charged, it supplies endless voltage

Dave

[MonsieurM]

Dave has built and tested with the Asymmetric Motor. He reported positive results before the motor came apart. We are testing different PM brushed topologies. So far we have had the best result with a standard universal, series wound, PM motor.
Good Luck,
Randy

just a " dumb" question .... but if you replace the motor with SSTC 12V - Solid State Tesla Coil - YouTube ... wouldn't we have a better effect on the vibes

. This condition is setup by the "vibration" or resonance injected by the motor and the load placed on the system.

see also : 12v Solid State Mini Tesla Coil with Circuit Diagram - YouTube

[tachyoncatcher]

would probably work for this version of 3BGS .... with An Asymmetric Motor

Dave has built and tested with the Asymmetric Motor. He reported positive results before the motor came apart. We are testing different PM brushed topologies. So far we have had the best result with a standard universal, series wound, PM motor.
Good Luck,
Randy

[MonsieurM]

Yes, he/we did/do. Going back to the same post.

We have found that when the transducer has seemingly reversed its polarity, that is when we get the most benefit from ambient. I suspect this is because the ambient is opposite "normal" electron flow and is positronic and electrostatic in nature. This condition is setup by the "vibration" or resonance injected by the motor and the load placed on the system. The transducer, as a battery, has the ability to create a chemical dipole. The transducer, as a capacitor, has the ability to collect the ambient which is excited by the "vibration" and balance the vacuum caused by the load. The transducer, as a magnet, has the ability to maintain and amplify the "vibration" once initiated by the motor.

Randy

had not read this post


but now i see what he was trying to do ..... so simple as he said ... vibrating Russian Dolls

shouldn't the motor be then asymmetric .... http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...energy-86.html ( always good to know )




ps : Thank you for your drawing .... it makes it so much easier to interpret

not quite as familiar with the electronics symbols

would probably work for this version of 3BGS .... with An Asymmetric Motor

[tachyoncatcher]

ps: Tesla used coils also as Capacitors .... ( think Russian Dolls )

Yes, he/we did/do. Going back to the same post.

We have found that when the transducer has seemingly reversed its polarity, that is when we get the most benefit from ambient. I suspect this is because the ambient is opposite "normal" electron flow and is positronic and electrostatic in nature. This condition is setup by the "vibration" or resonance injected by the motor and the load placed on the system. The transducer, as a battery, has the ability to create a chemical dipole. The transducer, as a capacitor, has the ability to collect the ambient which is excited by the "vibration" and balance the vacuum caused by the load. The transducer, as a magnet, has the ability to maintain and amplify the "vibration" once initiated by the motor.

Randy

[tachyoncatcher]

Pictures

I found some pictures on a russian site can someone tell me if might work ?that is the book https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7F-...?usp=drive_web page 41 to 46

Tom,
That is the old Tesla switch diagram from which this system was conceived. I believe Matt has much experience with that particular system. If you Google, "Electrodyne Tesla Switch" you will find much information.
Good Luck,
Randy

[MonsieurM]

He he! We are beginning to UNDERSTAND this system.
Great job MonsieurM.

Randy

Thanks tachyoncatcher

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Unique things happen to a capacitor and its dielectric when "vibrated".

ps: Tesla used coils also as Capacitors .... ( think Russian Dolls )

Most generally I employed receiving circuits
in the form of loops, including condensers

[tachyoncatcher]

Understanding

just wanted to bring your attention to Dielectric Constants of various materials

one is found in batteries : ( What is Sulfation and How Does it Affect My Battery? | Impact Battery Blog )

Lead Sulfate 14.3 ( see also triboelectricity )

and this one was often discussed in this forum :

Copper Oxide 18.1




ps: so a Battery is a Condenser / Static Machine / Crystal Radio


A New Oxide Of Copper Battery .... Hodges, James & Smith - Turn The People On - YouTube

He he! We are beginning to UNDERSTAND this system.
Great job MonsieurM.

Randy