3 Battery Generating System

[shylo]

What I find unusual is how caps charge , and that are not connected, with a physical circuit, But you can draw off the power.
Cap A can be connected to point 1 & 2, Cap B can be connected to point 1 & 3, Cap C connected to2 & 3
But you can draw off A & B 1-3, 2-3, and 1-2
B and C the same way,
And A & C & B will all charge , when drawing off the others. (flyback I think)
Still looking
artv

[Tishatang]

@liber63
OK, got it! I guess I should learn to read comments section on youtube. So, my dream of an electric boat is still on.

Chris

[Turion]

Perhaps if the people that insist this doesn't work and show us videos would invest several thousand dollars in a state of the art battery analyzer and take a look at the results from it, (as I have done) they would change their opinion. I don't OWN one...yet, but I have been able to test the 3BGS with one, and as I recall, Matt DOES own one. And I am not talking about a hand held meter, but a REAL analyzer that costs a few thousand dollars. The cost of running the load on the potential difference is minimal, and far FAR less than running a DC load any other way.

There are things about batteries that very few people really understand. I'm not claiming to understand them either, or I wouldn't have spent 8 years of my life putzing around with the 3BGS, but I can say that dismissing the 3BGS is a terrible error. I don't know if everything Rick shared is for real, but I know absolutely for sure that SOME of it is.

Dave

[Matthew Jones]

To sum it up.. all arrangements of batteries including a single battery, serial battery, and parallel battery or any combination of are measured based on the voltage difference between the highest point and the lowest point, which is usually the difference between GND and Positive poles, but not in this case.

Anything other than that is a false approach designed to show loss. Just plain ignorant stupidity from someone who should know better.

Its real let down when people concoct these things then in turn label anyone who knows better "ignorant". Its a real shame when you admire their work just to find out they are not capable of even rational thought and accurate experimentation.

Matt

[liber63]

at Tishatang
At part two read the comments. Matt and David clearly explain why the difference.

[Tishatang]

Rick vs Gotoluc--Why the difference? Two part video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdj9eG6_1Zg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph4chWT3Ap0

[Duncan]

acronym anyone?

Hi David - Et al – Just an opinion David and a few observations but I consider your works to be far from over. You rightly say 'until a sizable load is running gratis on your test bench' but it runs far deeper than that even .
If I were to write 'until a suitable energy source sufficient to each and everyone’s needs were made available free of constraint' .. that would IMHO be nearer the goal, but we are far,far away from that .
A lot of that distance is not only physiological but cyclic, allow me to expand on that the video you posted by Rick although nicely presented and perhaps done in all sincerity didn't really present anything new or unexpected . The capacitors (and batteries) charged in parallel and discharged in series has been demonstrated and shown to be COP>1 many times – indeed for decades by many different researchers. For your indulgence here are a few from the 'back pages' EPD explains the capacitor enigma (just as Rick does) 48M40s – 50M10s here -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oAlvaC8ls
John Bedini unitizes the capacitors charging in parallel and dis-charging in series enigma long ago in this practical example described as 'a scalar battery charger' and attributed to Ron Cole
THE TESLA SWITCH
you of course will be very familiar with it David as the genesis of the 3BGS was the Tesla switch and you certainly will have avidly consumed any information available in the arena.
I confess to be getting a bit 'pissed' at folks preaching the lord at me, placing emphasis on truth and disclosure along with sharing and then of course presenting ' A black box' In the equation. Might as well post nothing at all instead of a teaser !
--- Gather around folks, lets all try and guess what's in the box and then try and guess what its not quite properly tuned to ? - that’s about as much use as tits on a Kipper! and as I say David there's many a crooked mile to travel yet.
It is not very difficult to ascertain exactly what is being 'tuned to' its pointed out loud and clear again by two researchers in different ways, John Bedini tells us many years ago “ Its reactive current” he states it loud and clear in the first few lines here -
John Bedini: Reactive Power is the clue to Monopole, Hendershot, Moray.. | MERLib.org
Eric Dollard Tells us much the same thing in terms of SWR and huge circulating currents at 20M00 to
23M00 here -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oAlvaC8ls
there are of course two resonant states (electrically speaking) to wit series resonance and Parallel resonance It is clear that it is the series resonant state we are concerned with and the forgotten and neglected waveforms of Tesla which Eric talks of.
Is it safe then to assume that the mysterious 'black box' then tunes the battery and circuit to series resonance regardless of changing battery conditions ? IMHO its a very good bet and consistent with all these researchers, In short its common ground!
Series Resonance in a Series RLC Resonant Circuit
Where then might the Tesla coil you mention fit into this hotch potch of 'Biblical goody two shoe's and black boxes David ?
The Tesla coil itself is by definition a resonant device, more importantly it is a series resonant device. That in itself doesn’t help the cause very much, it does offer an explanation as to Clueless's instinctive interest though.
We have all had to learn to our chagrin that the battery impedance rapidly changes and -- oh oh oh the magic disappears.
Strangely the work of the maniacal groups of 'Coilers' who are generally considered just as insane as we 'free energy researchers' may come to our assistance as we consider - whats in the black box ?
After all they have the same basic problem that is - trying to track series resonance despite wildly changing conditions.
Their answers ? They are many and evolving all the time hence a big list of acronyms has evolved (when alas we just want something simple to share) For instance . P..P..L D.R.S.S.T.C
I understand it means 'Phase locked loop controlled double resonant solid state Tesla coil'( oh yeah -
well supercalifragilisticexpialidocious !!) anyway here's one of many hundreds of examples chosen because the schematics and intentions are pretty clear -

https://danstrother.com/elysium/

now incorporate that or something similar (and preferably much simpler) to track resonance and alter impulse rate to suit and I suspect you'll be duplicating something of the 'black box' technology and much nearer your high power, reliable. Machine. As for the Chemistry , that's another facet of the diamond
Regards

[Turion]

WW,
If you are out there watching, I finally figured out the magnetic polarity. It does everything you said it would do. AMAZING!!

[Turion]

We did some experiments with bifilar wound pancake coils, but never with the Tesla coil. If you look back a bit at the work done here with the boost circuit or at the link to the stuff Rick F has posted, you will come to realize that you do not need a bad battery. All you need is to rest the charging battery, rotate the batteries occasionally, and you can extend your run times long enough to power a generator with your motor that WILL produce excess power. I have a couple extra boost modules lying around if you want them to experiment with. PM me and I'll get them to you.
Dave

[clueless]

Turion I wanted to say

thank you for this thread. I have always been interested in these things but higher math is not my strong suit and I don't really have money or space to experiment. Until you started this thread. Batteries are something I'm somewhat familiar with and have worked with.

I followed the instructions and got the system to work. I also want to take the time to thank Matthew Jones. He knows how he helped me.

Anyway I got it to work but basically I was working under a leaking and open porch limited space and subject to the weather and rain. I had to abandon it and cover it with a tarp after a certain level of progression because I needed a safer place and testing equipment to document what I was seeing.

We are both disabled and money is tight but I have been able to save some towards that goal. In the meantime I have been kept busy with a sick parent and spouse while writing 2 novels, studying the stock market and developing my own health diet.

So anyway I recently happened on some videos by Jim Murray and something he said, or something he attributed to Tesla and something someone said about batteries discharging having nothing to do with using electricity but just moving electrons in the same direction that discharges it.

It triggered a question circuit in my brain because I've read the last couple of pages and the drawback with the 3 BS still seems to be the dead battery not remaining dead.

I wonder has anyone tried a Tesla coil in conjunction with the third battery? Something Jim said about orientation and Tesla made me wonder. Made me wonder if the coil could/would interfere with electron flow in that third battery by its orientation and coil design.

The older I get the more I trust my intuition and for me to check in here after 3 years and find this still on the front page surprised me. That was after viewing the vids by Jim Murray but only later did I vaguely connect his mechanical magnification and orientation lectures with the 3 BS.

This maybe stupid but placing the battery on the coil or connecting it across one or both terminals or to one side or over it or suspend it in air to see what happens.

I really do appreciate this thread for a lot of reasons.

I don't mean to leave with a mixed message.

I have seen everything Rick showed in his presentation. WITH the exception of what is in the "black box" that is supposed to run loads and induce more charging. And I have some ideas on what that might have been. But that's what my bench is for.

Until I have seen large loads run on my bench I have to reserve judgement. I do know the direction Matt and I are going is to use the concept found in this circuit to run a Basic Free Energy Device, so that's where I'm headed.


Dave

[shylo]

Hi Dave , I ran for a week with just 2 batteries in series, I lost .385 volts /24 hrs. That was turning the rotor and lighting 36 led's.
I then hooked up the 3BGS, a set of super caps in the 3rd position, and ran another week ,I only lost .195 volts/24hrs, the rotor was slower and the led's were'nt as bright , but the super caps gained triple the voltage I lost in the original set-up.
I Know the caps don't have the same capacity of the batteries, but there is still the less consumption on the batteries , plus the gained charge on the bank of super caps.
Thank-you for all the efforts you put out there, just because we don't always post , doesn't mean it was in vain.
artv

[Turion]

Mixed Message

I don't mean to leave with a mixed message.

I have seen everything Rick showed in his presentation. WITH the exception of what is in the "black box" that is supposed to run loads and induce more charging. And I have some ideas on what that might have been. But that's what my bench is for.

Until I have seen large loads run on my bench I have to reserve judgement. I do know the direction Matt and I are going is to use the concept found in this circuit to run a Basic Free Energy Device, so that's where I'm headed.


Dave

[THEminoly]

While watching that vid, I immediately thought of JB then you and came here to see what's what...
Cheers
Patrick

Rick Frederick just released this amazing information for all the world to see....how to run motors without having to pay to do it.

https://youtu.be/SE-AiC9yiFc

If you have ever built the 3BGS or any of the other circuits we have shown on this thread for the last four or five years, you will see that there may be some....similarities. Possibly. Maybe. I think I first posted about running motors this way about 8 years ago.

Now since then a lot has changed. We understand how to take the power that is produced and use it many ways before you dump it into a storage device so it can run external loads. Rick says you can use it two or three times. I have to agree. The boost circuit lets us run motors on higher voltage at low amps, and produce even HIGHER voltage with the coil collapse. The trick is knowing what to do with all that high voltage to turn it into usable energy and to run loads or generate power. I haven't seen Rick's stuff firsthand, but I do know people who have his motor and it is not a self runner, so I'm not quite sure what he has. I do know what the POTENTIAL is.

I wanted to post this here as kind of a parting tribute to the 3BGS, because the exploration of that particular basic circuit has probably outlived it's usefulness. What we have learned will be taken to our work on the "Basic Free Energy Device" thread, and we will leave this one to gather dust. Adios folks. It's been fun, but unless I accidentally replicate my original discovery and somehow figure out how to maintain that "bad battery" as a negative resistor, I doubt I will ever post on this particular thread again.

Dave

[DavidE]

Turion/David

One thing that I have always admired about you - is your ability to separate alternative energy ideas from personalities or controversy. I mention this because what you have posted here is a very mixed message series of shares.

Much of the alternative energy content that was shared in the YouTube you noted, was discovered and shared by many AE notables prior to this. So this specific effort should be observed just as a drumbeat reminder as to fundamentals that show AE promise. We should be very careful in assigning more credit to it then that.

These are what I do believe to be AE stepping stones. But each of us still need to help write the final chapter to practical devices, while never forgetting the work and the inventors that have gone before us. That is the spirit, that will likely advance us all.

[Turion]

The End

Rick Frederick just released this amazing information for all the world to see....how to run motors without having to pay to do it.

https://youtu.be/SE-AiC9yiFc

If you have ever built the 3BGS or any of the other circuits we have shown on this thread for the last four or five years, you will see that there may be some....similarities. Possibly. Maybe. I think I first posted about running motors this way about 8 years ago.

Now since then a lot has changed. We understand how to take the power that is produced and use it many ways before you dump it into a storage device so it can run external loads. Rick says you can use it two or three times. I have to agree. The boost circuit lets us run motors on higher voltage at low amps, and produce even HIGHER voltage with the coil collapse. The trick is knowing what to do with all that high voltage to turn it into usable energy and to run loads or generate power. I haven't seen Rick's stuff firsthand, but I do know people who have his motor and it is not a self runner, so I'm not quite sure what he has. I do know what the POTENTIAL is.

I wanted to post this here as kind of a parting tribute to the 3BGS, because the exploration of that particular basic circuit has probably outlived it's usefulness. What we have learned will be taken to our work on the "Basic Free Energy Device" thread, and we will leave this one to gather dust. Adios folks. It's been fun, but unless I accidentally replicate my original discovery and somehow figure out how to maintain that "bad battery" as a negative resistor, I doubt I will ever post on this particular thread again.

Dave