Bi-toroid Transformer of Thane C. Heins

[BroMikey]

Re-Do the test

@ All

I am posting the correct wiring diagram for my test.


The primary is .05ma @7.7vac

The light is .10ma @5.5vac

Following ohms law I find that as the power running to the light increases so does the resistance (Thanks Dave)

Here is the age old ohms law triangle for finding the third unknown value.

I this case the light bulbs resistance varies with power level which turns out to be a good thing. I my case the bulbs are (Bulb string is 5 in series) 3vac each 5 in series for a ceiling of 15vac. I am using the clear bulbs found in the old XMAX tree strings that are AC bulbs. Those old strings were power eaters and now-a-days LED strings are taking over.

Like Dave had pointed out in a previous post that he wanted the value of current flowing through the bulb because he knew that the resistance changes rapidly with current flow.

So here I am turning the Variac around (Up and Down) not knowing that the light bulb was readjusting itself every single second.

The bulb might actually HELP the tuning process as the experimenter only has say one adjustment tool, this may serve to self-adjust the circuit.

In either case I wanted a light bulb so i could see the current flow.

In the example the cold resistance of the bulb is 12.2 ohms yet calculations show that at 5.5vac @ 100ma the resistance value is now 55ohms.


I will continue to document these results and add some oscilloscope shots someday soon, I hope






Unless for some unbeknown reason like phasor angles, reactive power or UFO landings, it looks like to me that the real power is being burned up by the bulb, is a little higher than what the primary source is providing.

Since no one has any contradictory statement or evidence of the possibility of a false reading I will assume the quiet means I must be right.

Any takers? I hate to be in the lead anyway

Dog-One is a polite gentlemen, whats say you Dog-One?

What about it Dave? Dog-One?

Has the beginner (Me BroMikey) missed something here?

Lay is on me so I can get the show on the road.





Mike

[BroMikey]

Leading current

I hear ya Dog-One

In radio circuits leading current and lagging current can be had normally so just because some free energy farmer has a leading current waveform doesn't make it OU. The frequency and voltage resonant series study is the goods.

Thanks for that

Mikey

[Dog-One]

For Review

There is a lot in electrical engineering that will trick you if you aren't very familiar with impedances, power factors, phase angles, inductance, capacitance, etc. It is a never ending journey.

Dave

Here's a link I think would serve us well to study and know intuitively before we make any assumptions:

Series Resonance in a Series RLC Resonant Circuit

[BroMikey]

Verification

I would also like to point out that Thane Heins has a YOUTUBE account or channel. On that channel there are people who have verified Thane's work so Thane has RE-POSTED their video links on HIS CHANNEL.

This is because these experimenters have in some way replicated the BiTT.

One person is the guy in France who has many video's without audio called JLN Labs.

The other is MR. CLEAN.




JLN Labs France BiTT v2 1 Replication Powered in DC for EV Chargers - YouTube


Shock-it LC Transformer intergration to Toroid test 1 - YouTube


ETS Prototype Demo 1 - YouTube




This tech is new. Run with it.

Mike

[BroMikey]

Resonant tuning.

There is a lot in electrical engineering that will trick you if you aren't very familiar with impedances, power factors, phase angles, inductance, capacitance, etc. It is a never ending journey.

Dave

Hi Dave

Great to hear someone putting these common ideas into simple terminology. I kind of figured that the video with the young man displaying these circuits a normal science experiment that all the boys and girls do for openers, yet still I don't know with such a journey as this, we might even see other energies entering these Bi-toroid transformers.

We got to keep after it dreaming and observing the experiment.

On the other hand Mr Clean had both his primary and secondary set with a series bulb and this is the phenomenon we are seeking.

There are circuits and THEN there are circuits. Why do I say it this way? I think experimenters who don't stay open to a new energy not in our books will never see it.

Even so I think Clean showed us something very valuable. Did you see the real deal where Clean had the LED light bulbs changing brightness?

Very interesting effect I mean to tell you with both primary and secondary set with an LED in series he had a third one in BiTT mode all lit up.

Searching for the (Not resonance) place where the light is dim on the primary and the 2 secondaries full bright.

I don't know what it is about these BiTT/SFT2 that puzzles me and like you said Dave the circuit shows some resonant characteristics maybe in the form of a harmonic but is not quite on Q.

The simple Simon Tesla coil stuff with resonant tuning has always been lacking and we may be on to it. The clue we are looking for is the leading current.

I think some people had witnessed the leading current on the scope.

Normal transformers do not do this. The next step it to loop. A complex loop is the only answer. The circuit must be maintained by the source battery with some of the excess sent back to keep the input alive and in full operation.

Maybe we can still learn something

Starting at 30hz pulse dc not even a pure sine wave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LBn...DkyG9 &index=7

Mike

[Web000x]

oh really? @Dave are you kidding me? I will take your word for it. So the voltage and the amperage is to low to light the first bulb in the primary but it will light the second bulb bright because the voltage and current are way up??


This is very interesting maybe the voltage in the primary went to 100volts @zero amps? then it translates down in the secondary coil.

Not a bad idea. Still I don't know.

Mike

The input side has a parallel resonant circuit in series with the lamp. Parallel resonance acts as a very large impedance. Basically, when the oscillations are started, it takes minimal energy input to maintain them. This is why the lamp extinguishes on the primary side at resonance. It's like when you are pushing a child in a swing. Very little energy is expended keeping the child swinging.

On the secondary side, there is a series resonant circuit with respect to the load. Since the load is contained inside of the resonant circuit, it sees every bit of current oscillating back and forth in the tank circuit. This is why the lamp lights.

If you were to look at the phase angle between voltage and current in the primary, you'd see just enough of a positive power factor to account for the energy dissipating in the secondary load. If you tried to add a bigger load on the secondary, you'd probably see the lamp on the primary start to light up as the primary expends more energy to account for the increased load. You'd also see your phase angle show an increased positive power factor.

There is a lot in electrical engineering that will trick you if you aren't very familiar with impedances, power factors, phase angles, inductance, capacitance, etc. It is a never ending journey.

Dave

[BroMikey]

Resonant tanks

Another thought is when i watched Mr Clean show his input LED go out the current never changed much. It dropped but the current was still there.

So resonant tuning much choke off the voltage in some cases.

Mike

[BroMikey]

Just Foolin

Don't let that video fool you Mike. That video isn't showing a gain in energy. It is showing how energy PROPAGATES from one resonant circuit to another. It is a simple video showing the effects of resonance. If you want to ask the publisher, it is username Amagdn03 from the Energetic Forum. He'll tell you the same thing.

Dave

oh really? @Dave are you kidding me? I will take your word for it. So the voltage and the amperage is to low to light the first bulb in the primary but it will light the second bulb bright because the voltage and current are way up??


This is very interesting maybe the voltage in the primary went to 100volts @zero amps? then it translates down in the secondary coil.

Not a bad idea. Still I don't know.

Mike

[Web000x]

Thanks for this pep talk on resonant tuning. I don't know what is wrong with me sometimes, it's like I get brain lock when dealing with a new device. There is nothing mysterious here at all.

The video very clearly points out that with the same bulb on the output as is on the input due to tuning extra energy in gained.

I needed that video VIDBID

Mike

Don't let that video fool you Mike. That video isn't showing a gain in energy. It is showing how energy PROPAGATES from one resonant circuit to another. It is a simple video showing the effects of resonance. If you want to ask the publisher, it is username Amagdn03 from the Energetic Forum. He'll tell you the same thing.

Dave

[BroMikey]

Resonant tuning.

Why couldn't a Bi-toroid Transformer be configured in a resonant circuit as in Energy Propagation - YouTube

Regards,

VIDBID

Thanks for this pep talk on resonant tuning. I don't know what is wrong with me sometimes, it's like I get brain lock when dealing with a new device. There is nothing mysterious here at all.

The video very clearly points out that with the same bulb on the output as is on the input due to tuning extra energy in gained.

I needed that video VIDBID

Mike

[BroMikey]

Fakin my self out

30 ma or 300 ma? Your diagram says 280 ma...

yes I meant 300ma I will try to get my head on straight and not makes so many blunders.

[Web000x]

Why couldn't a Bi-toroid Transformer be configured in a resonant circuit as in Energy Propagation - YouTube

Regards,

VIDBID

That's what I had in mind. Thanks for posting Andrew's video.

[Web000x]

Dave, have you tried any more tests with shorted secondaries and pulsed inputs?

I haven't tried with pulsed inputs yet. I'm more interested in an AC signal since that's what Thane and Bill used. I did finally revisit my circuit again tonight after being despondent for about a week. I'm using ten 1-ohm resistors in parallel which greatly reduces inductance for my current measurements. I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary. Most of my efficiency calculations have been about 90% or lower...

[vidbid]

Resonant Bi-toroid Transformer Circuit Proposal

Why couldn't a Bi-toroid Transformer be configured in a resonant circuit as in Energy Propagation - YouTube

Regards,

VIDBID

[Dog-One]

Dave, have you tried any more tests with shorted secondaries and pulsed inputs?