The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism

[MonsieurM]

CHAPTER XXXVI.

THERMO-MAGNETIC MOTORS AND PYRO-MAGNETIC GENE-
RATORS , 424





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Heat pulse magnetic switching enables 200Gb/s hard drives – Computer Chips & Hardware Technology | Geek.com

Physicists 'record' magnetic breakthrough

has demonstrated that the positions of both the North and South poles of a magnet can be inverted by an ultrashort heat pulse, harnessing the power of much stronger internal forces of magnetic media.

[MonsieurM]

It would be unbecoming to not treat the Great Master to a 3 6 9 Lens




from : The inventions, researches and writings of Nikola Tesla, with special reference to his work in polyphase currents and high potential lighting

CONTENTS.

PART I,

POLYPHASE CUERENTS.

CHAPTER I.

BIOGRAPHICAL AND INTRODUCTORY..



CHAPTER II.

A NEW SYSTEM OF ALTERNATING CURRENT MOTORS AND

TRANSFORMERS Y

CHAPTER III.

THE TESLA ROTATING MAGNETIC FIELD. MOTORS WITH
CLOSED CONDUCTORS. SYNCHRONIZING MOTORS. ROTA-
TING FIELD TRANSFORMERS 9

CHAPTER IV.

MODIFICATIONS AND EXPANSIONS OF THE TESLA POLYPHASE

SYSTEMS 26

CHAPTER V.

UTILIZING FAMILIAR TYPES OF GENERATORS OF THE CON-
TINUOUS CURRENT TYPE 31

CHAPTER VI.

METHOD OF OBTAINING DESIRED SPEED OF MOTOR OR

GENERATOR 36



v iii

CHAPTER VII.

REGULATOR FOR ROTARY CURRENT MOTORS 45

CHAPTER VIII.
SINGLE CIRCUIT, SELF-STARTING SYNCHRONIZING MOTORS. . . 50

CHAPTER IX.

CHANGE FROM DOUBLE CURRENT TO SINGLE CURRENT

MO.TORS 56

CHAPTER X.

MOTOR WITH " CURRENT LAG " ARTIFICIALLY SECURED 58

CHAPTER XL

ANOTHER METHOD OF TRANSFORMATION FROM A TORQUE TO

A SYNCHRONIZING MOTOR ... 62

CHAPTER XII.
" MAGNETIC LAG " MOTOR 67


CHAPTER XIII.

METHOD OF OBTAINING DIFFERENCE OF PHASE BY MAG-
NETIC SHIELDING 71

CHAPTER XIV.
TYPE OF TESLA SINGLE-PHASE MOTOR 76

CHAPTER XV.

MOTORS WITH CIRCUITS OF DIFFERENT RESISTANCE 79

CHAPTER XVI.

MOTOR WITH EQUAL MAGNETIC ENERGIES IN FIELD AND

ARMATURE g^

CHAPTER XVII.

MOTORS WITH COINCIDING MAXIMA OK MAGNETIC EFFECT

IN ARMATURE AND FIELD 83



CONTENTS. ix

CHAPTER XVIII.

MOTOR BASED ON THE DIFFERENCE OF PHASE IN THE MAG-
NETIZATION OF THE INNER AND OUTER PARTS OF AN
IRON CORE 88

CHAPTER XIX.
ANOTHER TYPE OF TESLA INDUCTION MOTOR 92

CHAPTER XX.

COMBINATIONS OF SYNCHRONIZING MOTOR AND TORQUE

MOTOR 95

CHAPTER XXI.

MOTOR WITH A CONDENSER IN THE ARMATURE CIRCUIT . . . 101

CHAPTER XXII.
MOTOR WITH CONDENSER IN ONE OF THE FIELD CIRCUITS. 106

CHAPTER XXIII.

TESLA POLYPHASE TRANSFORMER 1 J9

CHAPTER XXIV.

A CONSTANT CURRENT TRANSFORMER WITH MAGNETIC

SHIELD BETWEEN COILS OF PRIMARY AND SECONDARY 113



PART II.

THE TESLA EFFECTS WITH HIGH FREQUENCY AND
HIGH POTENTIAL CURRENTS.

CHAPTER XXV.

INTRODUCTORY. THE SCOPE OF THE TESLA LECTURES 119

CHAPTER XXVI.

THE NEW YORK LECTURE. EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE
CURRENTS OF VERY HIGH FREQUENCY, AND THEIR
APPLICATION TO METHODS OF ARTIFICIAL ILLUMINA-
TION, MAY 20, 1S91 145



x CONTENTS.

CHAPTER XXVII.

THE LONDON LECTURE. EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE
CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY,
FEBRUARY 3, 1892 198

CHAPTER XXVIII.

THE PHILADELPHIA AND ST. Louis LECTURE. ON LIGHT
AND OTHER HIGH FREQUENCY PHENOMENA, FEBRUARY
AND MARCH, 1893. 294

CHAPTER XXIX.

TESLA ALTERNATING CURRENT GENERATORS FOR HIGH

FREQUENCY 374

CHAPTER XXX.
ALTERNATE CURRENT ELECTROSTATIC INDUCTION APPARATUS 392

CHAPTER XXXI.

" MASSAGE " WITH CURRENTS OF HIGH FREQUENCY 394

CHAPTER XXXII.

ELECTRIC DISCHARGE IN VACUUM TUBES 396



PART III.

MISCELLANEOUS INVENTIONS AND WEITINGS.

CHAPTER XXXIII.

METHOD OF OBTAINING DIRECT FROM ALTERNATING CUR-
RENTS 409

CHAPTER XXXIV.
CONDENSERS WITH PLATES IN OIL 418

CHAPTER XXXV.

ELECTROLYTIC REGISTERING ]!UETER . 420



CONTENTS. xi

CHAPTER XXXVI.

THERMO-MAGNETIC MOTORS AND PYRO-MAGNETIC GENE-
RATORS , 424




CHAPTER XXXVII.
ANTI-SPARKING DYNAMO BRUSH AND COMMUTATOR 432

CHAPTER XXXVIII.

AUXILIARY BRUSH REGULATION OF DIRECT CURRENT DY-
NAMOS 438

CHAPTER XXXIX.

IMPROVEMENT IN DYNAMO AND MOTOR CONSTRUCTION 448

CHAPTER XL.
TESLA DIRECT CURRENT ARC LIGHTING SYSTEM 451

CHAPTER XLI.

IMPROVEMENT IN UNIPOLAR GENERATORS . . . 465



PART IV.

APPENDIX : EARLY PHASE MOTORS AND THE TESLA
OSCILLATORS.

CHAPTER XLIL

MR. TESLA'S PERSONAL EXHIBIT AT THE WORLD'S FAIR . . . 4.77

CHAPTER XLIII.

THE TESLA MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL OSCILLATORS... 486

[MonsieurM]

I have a question. The Dyson air multiplier works by creating a cone of air in a vortex shape. The inner part of the vortex is able to gain strength and "multiply" the air flow. I wonder if you took a standard generator and made it with the same idea. Like the copper windings would be on the outside and the energy your trying to generate would be happening on the inside of the spin. I wonder if a vortex effect would apply to electricity

Good to read you occy30

similar to this : from Tesla's research







----------------------------- a bit of esoteric .... follow up to previous post :



ps: Coral Castle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When asked why he had built the castle, Leedskalnin would vaguely answer it was for his "Sweet Sixteen." This is widely believed to be a reference to Agnes Scuffs (whose surname is given by some sources as "Skuvst"). In Leedskalnin's own publication A Book in Every Home he implies his "Sweet Sixteen" was more an ideal than a reality.

He also stated that he had "discovered the secrets of the pyramids",[14] which of course could be interpreted in either esoteric or engineering terms.

Try this! The Deepest most relaxing music and video ever - Air (15) - YouTube

a matter signed by nature, or
still better, a movement, a dynamism, or a vibration, a sealed life ([*236-6 --- simenai) so as
to allow a man to identify it, a very peculiar signature submitted to the rules of the number
six

Fulcanelli

[occy30]

more in the link

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a repost on the Coanda Effect : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post189599

Thanks Dave .... we can only in awe with what Nature has to offer us

Dave did you have a look at the Patent of Coanda Effect ... think of the magnetic funnel you want to create as a combination of

the coanda effect Coanda Effect Patents





and Biefeld–Brown effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thomas Townsend Brown, Electrogavitic propulsion inventor



so you end up with :

here is a vid of the principle that creates a "sink" of sort :

Sir James Dyson explains his bladeless fan - YouTube





ps: i wonder if anyone has ever made Rodin Coil with an Aluminum Donut ( maybe filled with aluminum dust ) sink

I have a question. The Dyson air multiplier works by creating a cone of air in a vortex shape. The inner part of the vortex is able to gain strength and "multiply" the air flow. I wonder if you took a standard generator and made it with the same idea. Like the copper windings would be on the outside and the energy your trying to generate would be happening on the inside of the spin. I wonder if a vortex effect would apply to electricity

[MonsieurM]

ps:

the key terms used in Alchemy can also be seen through the goggles of Numerology

try for instance : Salt Mercury SUlphur or Antimony ( group 15 / Antimony in alchemy ) in :

Sun Angel Creations - Law of Attraction Secrets - NumberQuest Numerology - NQ-Multi Numerology Calculator - Calculate Pythagorean, Chaldean, Kabbalah and Gematria Numerology Numbers! :: 123 Free Numerology Reports! :: Unlimited Free Numerology Name,



by Fulcanelli p112 ( or 13 ): The Dwellings of the Philosophers

Greek cabalists used to substitute numbers for
certain consonants, for words whose common meaning they wanted to veil under a hermetic
meaning. And so they used the epistimon ([*236-2]--- stagion)(33), Koppa, sampi, digamma
(34)
, to which they granted a conventional value. The names modified by this process formed
genuine cryptograms, although their form and their pronunciation did not seem to have
undergone any alteration. Furthermore, the word, antimony, [*236-3], stimmi, when it was
used to signify the hermetic subject, was always written with the episemon ([*236-4],
equivalent of the consonants sigma and tau together. Written in this manner [*236-5] ---
simmi, it is no longer the stibnite of mineralogists, but indeed a matter signed by nature, or
still better, a movement, a dynamism, or a vibration, a sealed life ([*236-6 --- simenai) so as
to allow a man to identify it, a very peculiar signature submitted to the rules of the number
sixHe is the seret artisan, the spirit, the mind enclosed in raw substance as translated
by the Greek epistemon, because the spirit can single-handedly perform and perfect the entire
work without any other help apart from elementary fire.

The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus

Know that this matter I call the stone; but it is also named the feminine of magnesia or the hen, or the white spittle, or the volatile milk, the incombustible oil in order that it may be hidden from the inept and ignorant who are deficient in goodness and self-control; which I have nevertheless signified to the wise by one only epithet, viz., the Philosopher's Stone

Hermes Trismegistus.

ps: Coral Castle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

When asked why he had built the castle, Leedskalnin would vaguely answer it was for his "Sweet Sixteen." This is widely believed to be a reference to Agnes Scuffs (whose surname is given by some sources as "Skuvst"). In Leedskalnin's own publication A Book in Every Home he implies his "Sweet Sixteen" was more an ideal than a reality.

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Agnes - Wiktionary

[MonsieurM]

just found these vid :

you know me and the Caduceus Coil ..... we have a long history

CADUCEUS COIL LEVITATION 1 - YouTube

A 2 INCH CADUCEUS COIL ENERGIZED BY A 23 HERTZ SINE WAVE
IS LEVITATING AN N45 ONE INCH SPHERE MAGNET WITH EASE
VERY INTERESTING RESULTS FROM SUCH A SIMPLE COIL

caduceus coil on delamorto 1.wmv - YouTube

[MonsieurM]

just felt it worth sharing as it is quite an interesting concept .... and thank you lasersaber for freely making it available

SOLN1 - Amazing all in one free energy unit. - YouTube

The SolN1 makes alternative energy easy enough for the masses. Lets build these and make them available to those in need. More info at: Laser Hacker! Free energy made easy. Forum: LaserHacker.com Forum - Index Many folks just need a couple light bulbs and a fan to change their lives for the better. After a natural disaster you may also want to have one of these handy.

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[MonsieurM]

are you guys familiar with the following coil ..... first time i encounter it ....

ABHA Vortex coil finished and joule thief light´s her UP - YouTube

Abha Vortex coil

..... will do a little search on it

The Rodin/Powell Solution: A New Approach to Vortex Based Mathematics by Randy Powell

ABHA Coil : Step-by-step Instructional! Disclosure! - YouTube

[MonsieurM]

one of my fav website posted an interesting article : Rex Research: suppressed, dormant,emerging unconventional alternative technologies: Free energy, Over-Unity, Antigravity, Inventions, Alchemy, Transmutation, Cannabis Hemp Marijuana, Magnet motors, Alternative Therapies"


Marcel VIOLET -- Substance Activator ( GB82733 )

In 1961, Marcel Violet, engineer of arts and professions and recognised inventor and scientist of his time, gave the only public lecture of his life during which he revealed his discovery of vitalised water.

This revelation was later published as a book: "The Secret of the Patriarchs: Essay on the Nature of Biological Energy - Perspective on its Use in the Field of Self-Defense and as a Factor of Rejuvenation". In regards to his work, and after successful experiments

He discovered that beeswax, properly prepared, is a selective filter of cosmic radiation, all of which is explained in detail in the conference. The Magnetic Fountain integrates this discovery, while incorporating the resonant frequency of the Cosmic C, which constitutes an additional vital information. How to check this, is explained in two minutes. We owe the magnetic resonance characteristics found in the Magnetic Fountain to the works of the great and underrated Nikola Tesla.

here is the interesting part :

At the Time of Tesla .... they often used Beeswax

The Turn Of The Century Electrotherapy Museum Tesla Library

To make a more heavy duty coil, impregnate the coil in a 1:1 ratio of molten beeswax and rosin, melted by induction
stove or a double boiler (NEVER over direct heat, it will cause a flash fire!). It helps to increase the size of the coil
to prevent over-stressing the insulation. For example, a 2-3" diameter coil will operate easily for extended periods
of time. At any rate, apply a small amount of current to the coil while the wax mixture is cooling. This procedure
also works well with condensers. By stressing the components while the insulation is cooling, minute air bubbles
are forced out of the interstices by the mechanical actions of the currents flowing through the devices. It is important
to keep the current low as not to over stress the insulation while it is cooling.

Schematics Illustrated

Nikola Tesla exhausted his coils and capacitors for insulating purposes in a pressure tank while melting the beeswax and paraffin mixture with steam permeating the mix into the smallest spaces to force out all gas bubbles, which was the reason his equipment was capable to stand these high electrical pressures and extremely rapid potentials.

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The Magnetic Fountain also contains a magnetic vortex, a sort of swirling magnetic field, which rotates the water molecules. All serious chemists know that the water molecule is electrically asymmetrical, so it aligns with magnetic fields. The Magnetic Fountain's vortex is made based on the work of Schauberger. A short film on the La Fontaine Magnétique website helps us understand the presence and effect of the vortex due to its spinning top. Another film which shows and explains the water vortex is also available for free.

La Fontaine Magnétique - Fontaine Magnétique

The "Magnetic Fountain" has a cylindrical shape, in which anisotropic ceramics are incorporated. This device accelerates the vibratory rate, and therefore increases the energy levels of the processed substances. The results is a significant increase of the wave of life, or increased vitality. Drinks and food are to be magnetized in / or on the receptacle provided for that purpose, and are instantly revitalized with a rotation of the levitating ring by the hand of the user. The "Magnetic Fountain" is very simple to use.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_(mythology)

[Dave45]

Hey MM good to read you, Im hoping to get an effect of some kind
Like water down a drain bro
We'll see I plan to pulse the coils as well a freeze them in ice.
Get out of the box and follow your own drummer.
dave

Im sure the Air Force tried jet engines at first but the design is for an electromagnetic device and Im sure they found that out.
Oh would I love to have a peek or just their resources.
later bro

[MonsieurM]

October 8, 2012

Tighten the strap on your tinfoil hat: Recently declassified documents show that the US Air Force was working on, and perhaps had already built, a supersonic flying saucer in 1956. taking advantage of the Coandă effect

more in the link

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a repost on the Coanda Effect : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post189599

Thanks Dave .... we can only in awe with what Nature has to offer us

Dave did you have a look at the Patent of Coanda Effect ... think of the magnetic funnel you want to create as a combination of

the coanda effect Coanda Effect Patents





and Biefeld–Brown effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thomas Townsend Brown, Electrogavitic propulsion inventor

so you end up with :

here is a vid of the principle that creates a "sink" of sort :

Sir James Dyson explains his bladeless fan - YouTube





ps: i wonder if anyone has ever made Rodin Coil with an Aluminum Donut ( maybe filled with aluminum dust ) sink

[MonsieurM]

you know by now that I am a Great Admirer of Tesla's Work



in particular the Tesla Turbine : see : http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...tml#post191941



so want to show you something :

Dynamics of Disk Spacing, Geometry, Horsepower & Torque by Ken Rieli, disc geometry improvements, Phoenix Turbine Builders Club, Tesla turbines

Comments

First of all we'll look at some of Nikola Tesla's historic experiments to get an idea of the relationship between disk spacing, horsepower, torque, and efficiency. Tesla started out building a 6-inch turbine followed by a 12-inch, 9.75-inch, 18-inch and finally a 60-inch. With the smaller turbines he used a disk spacing of .03 inches (0.8mm), with disc thickness the same (.03").

Once he moved to 18-inch diameter disks, he increased both the disk thickness and spacing between them to .0625 inches (1.6mm). While working with the Allis Chalmers company of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, his largest design -- a 60-inch diameter turbine -- was built using a disk thickness and spacing of 0.125 inches (3.2mm). (some of the last measure don't follow the 369 principle .... maybe wrong or needs readjustement )

Tesla's 10-inch turbine produced 110 horsepower, his 18-inch produced 200-300 hp, and the 60-inch produced 675 hp. Tesla also mentioned in his aircraft designs that for maximum efficiency the exhaust port should be reduced, but for maximum horsepower the exhaust size should be increased. In addition, Tesla stated that the greatest efficiency is achieved when the disks rotate at the speed of the fluid, but maximum torque is realized when the disks rotate at just over 50% of the fluid speed.

Other factors that affect efficiency and power are the same as those affecting aircraft, cars or any aerodynamically sensitive object: surface finish and geometry.

To put it plainly, it is virtually impossible to calculate the obtainable torque and horsepower due to aerodynamic complexities; however, if you follow the basic design and construction methods already established, you will achieve results that are relatively close to Tesla's experiments.

and also from:

Tesla turbine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pump

If a similar set of disks and a housing with an involute shape (versus circular for the turbine) are used, the device can be used as a pump. In this configuration a motor is attached to the shaft. The fluid enters near the center, is given energy by the disks, then exits at the periphery. The Tesla turbine does not use friction in the conventional sense; precisely, it avoids it, and uses adhesion (the Coandă effect) and viscosity instead. It utilizes the boundary layer effect on the disc blades.

Smooth rotor disks were originally proposed, but these gave poor starting torque. Tesla subsequently discovered that smooth rotor disks with around the perimeter of a 10″ disk ( actually 9.75" ) and a without compromising efficiency.

I have been kind of "obsessed" with the idea of mixing a Stirling Engine with a Tesla Turbine

Stirling engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




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Homeconstructor - Tesla turbine

[MonsieurM]

from : The inventions, researches and writings of Nikola Tesla, with special reference to his work in polyphase currents and high potential lighting



note the geometry

a word search (ctrl + F ) resulted on many hits on the word Mica

Full text of "The inventions, researches and writings of Nikola Tesla, with special reference to his work in polyphase currents and high potential lighting"

Tesla seemed to use Mica quite often in his experiments

[MonsieurM]

let's keep the flow going

there was something nagging at me since yesterday ...... Mica ..... kept cropping up ..... every sacred place we looked at has Mica present in it ( within ( granite )or without (mica deposits )

Pyramids

Mica

As we moved further into the tunnel we could see a mysterious unbroken and uniform membrane/"sheet" of dark grey butter-textured material, which Jim Leary English Heritage Chief Archaeologist, explained was approximately 5mm thick and stone free, which covered a designated area between the foundation and the base of the construction. The photos clearly show this band of material placed between the earth foundation and the chalk used in the construction of Phase II.

so out of curiosity did a search on rexresearch for use of mica in "fringe science"

Google

results:

Andrew Crosse: Abiogenesis of Acari - Rex Research
Chauncy Britten: Free Energy Generator - Rex Research
Rory Johnson: Magnatron engine - Rex Research
Jules Guillot -- Atmospheric Electric Generator ... - Rex Research
Howard Johnson: Permanent Magnet Motor - Rex Research
Rene Blondlot: N-Rays - Rex Research
Palmer Craig: Hall Effect Device (Battery, rectifier ... - Rex Research
Paul Baumann: Testatika Generator (Methernitha ... - Rex Research
Dew Pond Construction Details - Rex Research
Joe BOOKER -- The "Joe Cell" - Rex Research
Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles - Rex Research


Mica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The mica group of sheet silicate (phyllosilicate) minerals includes several closely related materials having close to perfect basal cleavage. All are monoclinic, with a tendency towards pseudohexagonal crystals, and are similar in chemical composition. The highly perfect cleavage, which is the most prominent characteristic of mica, is explained by the hexagonal sheet-like arrangement of its atoms.

The word "mica" is derived from the Latin word mica, meaning "a crumb", and probably influenced by micare, "to glitter".[1]

Contents [hide]
1 Mica classification
1.1 Trioctahedral micas
1.2 Interlayer deficient micas
2 Occurrence and production
3 Properties and uses
3.1 Ground mica
3.2 Built-up mica
3.3 Sheet mica
3.3.1 Electrical and electronic
3.3.2 Isinglass
3.3.3 Atomic force microscopy
4 Substitutes
5 Mica in ancient times
6 Mica powder

Mica in ancient times

Human use of mica dates back to prehistoric times. Mica was known to ancient Indian, Egyptian, Greek and Roman and Chinese civilizations, as well as the Aztec civilization of the New World.

The earliest use of mica has been found in cave paintings created during the Upper Paleolithic period (40,000 BC to 10,000 BC). The first hues were red (iron oxide, hematite, or red ochre) and black (manganese dioxide, pyrolusite), though black from juniper or pine carbons has also been discovered. White from kaolin or mica was used occasionally.

A few kilometers northeast of Mexico City stands the ancient site of Teotihuacan. The most striking visual and striking structure of Teotihuacan is the towering Pyramid of the Sun. The pyramid contained considerable amounts of mica in layers up to 30 cm (12 in) thick.[15]

Natural mica was and is still used by the Taos and Picuris Pueblos Indians in north-central New Mexico to make pottery. The pottery is made from weathered Precambrian mica schist, and has flecks of mica throughout the vessels. Tewa Pueblo pottery is made by coating the clay with mica to provide a dense-glittery micaceous finish over the entire object ( see clay + Magnetite ) .[6]

I think Mica ( fractal construct ) also plays role / has an effect on subtle energies ( Orgone / Chi / Etheric etc.... ) .....

Properties and uses

dielectric, elastic, flexible, hydrophilic, insulating, lightweight, platy, reflective, refractive, resilient, and range in opacity from transparent to opaque. Mica is stable when exposed to electricity, light, moisture, and extreme temperatures. It has superior electrical properties as an insulator and as a dielectric, and can support an electrostatic field while dissipating minimal energy in the form of heat

[MonsieurM]

wow what a thread, very interesting Is there a summery of facts being concluded here. I mean there is just so much info about this topic its mind boggling to get the grasp with .

welcome Makel8 ,

as it is an ongoing research / discussion , it would be hard to summarize it all .... in few words ... the Universe is Fractal ...... if I may suggest please consider this thread as " a tree of knowldge" of sort ..... just pick a fruit from it and explore it .... it will at some point lead you back to this thread .... pick another and go on in acquiring more knowledge .... and feel free to contribute as it is an Open Discussion built on open Suggestion / Information provided by other users ie: Dave45