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  • Dave45
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    That power surge has really got me going, maybe a toroid or rodin coil under the cell

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  • Dave45
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    Maybe a pulsing magnetic field under the cell might help

    I wonder what a rodin coil would look like frozen, might be interesting to see what kind of vortex it created

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  • MonsieurM
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    Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
    Something peculiar just happened, when my freezer compressor kicked in I had an amp draw of .65 for just a second then it went back to 0.
    The freezer I have is a small maybe 2 1/2 foot square, in the bottom of the freezer there's a small shelf in one corner that my cell is sitting on, under that shelf is the compressor, when the magnetic field from the motor kicked in I had a surge through the cell.

    Dave
    the best discoveries are serendipitous in nature

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  • Dave45
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    Something peculiar just happened, when my freezer compressor kicked in I had an amp draw of .65 for just a second then it went back to 0.
    The freezer I have is a small maybe 2 1/2 foot square, in the bottom of the freezer there's a small shelf in one corner that my cell is sitting on, under that shelf is the compressor, when the magnetic field from the motor kicked in I had a surge through the cell.

    Dave

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  • Dave45
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    The amp meter is in, so far nothing.
    I really think the aluminum plate should be gold or at least gold plated, also using acid in the water would improve conductivity, rainwater is slightly acidic.
    David

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  • MonsieurM
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    It would make sense since the water is structured which would imply that i has a more sturdy shape compare to "chaotically" ordered ice

    Vortex of swirling blue water
    Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-08-2011, 12:29 PM.

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  • Dave45
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    Not sure if youv noticed but the longer ice has been frozen the longer it lasts after taken out of the freezer.
    Im going to put an amp meter between the aluminum plate and the grounding rod to see if there is an amp draw,draw may be the wrong word I think flow is better, anyway we should be able to monitor the cell this way.
    Dave

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  • MonsieurM
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    Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
    speaking of the superconductivity of boron



    Might work to help structure water
    Tourmaline is found in boron Pegmatite....

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  • Dave45
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    speaking of the superconductivity of boron

    Boric acid, also known as boracic acid or
    orthoboric acid, is naturally occurring
    compound containing the elements boron,
    oxygen, and hydrogen (H3BO3).
    Might work to help structure water

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  • MonsieurM
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    good vibes...and it will

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  • Dave45
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    Lets hope it works bro, if it does everyone will know how to do it, Iv posted everything, and then pay it forward
    Dave

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  • MonsieurM
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    Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
    random oxygen atoms - like in the column formed by the coil
    superconductivity:



    there is water in the air, i don't think the magnet is in a vacuum sealed environment see video:

    superconductivity - YouTube



    Access : Solid-state physics: Golden ratio seen in a magnet : Nature

    The golden ratio spotted in a magnetic compound.
    appear linked to the fractal arrangements of seemingly random oxygen atoms....
    ..., especially not in relation to the behavior of individual electrons, which exist at a scale thousands of times smaller. The findings, published Aug. 12 in Nature, are a physics equivalent of discovering a link between two utterly separate dimensions. (obviously they know nothing about the Fractal Universe Theory pfff.... )
    see also : http://www.energeticforum.com/155523-post536.html

    Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-08-2011, 01:11 AM.

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  • Dave45
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    Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
    or Vortex

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  • MonsieurM
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    Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
    random oxygen atoms - like in the column formed by the coil
    or Vortex

    now consider you are trying to grow a fractal antenna (ie vortex ), you take the properties of a fractal antenna (above mentioned ) and recreate them to grow the antenna (the reverse process, if it can emit it can receive , principle of correspondence )

    and this is what you can do with the Smith Coil

    The caduceus coil illustrated in Fig.1, basically consists of ordinary insulated copper wire wound in a double-helix around a ferrite core. THIS COIL HAS REPEATEDLY BEEN FOUND TO VIOLATE ESTABLISHED LAWS OF ELECTROMAGNETICS AND HERTZIAN WAVE THEORY WHEN A HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT IS INJECTED INTO IT....
    ....First. This apparatus has zero impedance - unlike an ordinary coil. when fed electrical energy the wire in the Tensor coil does not get hot.

    Secondly. It has infinite resonance - unlike an ordinary coil which will resonate chiefly at its natural fundamental frequency and weakly on the second or third harmonic, the Tensor coil is capable of resonating strongly on any number of frequencies randomly spaced in the spectrum. The signal pumped into such a coil strangely enough cannot be quantified (detected) by standard RF (radio frequency) detection apparatus ( see: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tic-field.html .) Many "Ham" radio operators and electronic technicians who have used these coils, are completely baffled by them
    one coil iron and one coil copper
    Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-08-2011, 12:01 AM.

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  • MonsieurM
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    now is a good time a sany to share some info, i posted in another thread on Fractal Antennas (any fractal formation is an antenna, you included )

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    The connection between chaos and fractals is that strange attractors (the pattern produced by graphing the behavior of a chaotic system) exhibit all the scaling properties associated with fractal objects. Of course, fractals are self-similar objects and possess structure at all scales.
    ....
    .....Think of a fractal antenna for what it is: a tuned LC circuit

    They analyzed these antennas by simulation using a MATLAB version of the Moments Method. Figure 4 displays their results as input resistance and reactance for the six antennas. Their analysis shows that the input resistance increases each time the length (not the size) of the antenna is increased. Also, the resonance frequency is shifted towards longer wavelengths becoming resonant antennas even in the small antenna region. A physical explanation of such a behavior might be found in the increasing number, which can be unbounded, of sharp corners and bends of the
    fractal monopole, which would enhance radiation.



    Their analysis shows that the input resistance increases each time the length (not the size) of the antenna is increased[/B]
    They are talking here about the degree of fractal you are using







    .Think of a fractal antenna for what it is: a tuned LC circuit
    Now you know that a tree is also a tuned LC circuit , all the info that you will find in this paper is applicable to a tree and water by extension

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