Stingo Solid State Battery Charger

[Farmhand]

Hi Sucahyo,

That's bad . Just in case it is not a coincidence, put some metal bar preferably alumunium between them. Or protect the device with alumunium wrap. I think stingo spark is more destructive than other circuit spark. I think it is possible that it produce something meter can not detect but the battery can feel it.

Good thing you can still charge it with stingo . I find it entertaining charging with a stingo that also produce spark , but I don't guarantee battery health though, because the spark may influence the primary and thus influence the charged battery too.

I think it was a coincedence also power company is doing work in the area, anyway I found a programable battery charger for all kinds of batteries a smart charger kind, runs from a battery too So I didn't have to use stingo to charge video camera battery.

Uploading another vid now. All kinds of different effects, i'm driving the conical coils with the HV output from the ignition coil connected to Stingo

I also made a small collector coil but it's not on the vid wasn't done yet, I can get a couple of hundred volts on the 2.2uf cap connected to that, via a bridge, but thats another video.

I can connect the conical coils in a few different ways for different effects, some ways are very good on power too, at the end of the vid you'll see that I got it to oscillate with no top arc but a small arc at the side, and when it's working like that it stops interfering with stuff, so it's usable, and very small amp draw too.

Cheers

[sucahyo]

Great, I am looking forward for the video .

Interesting that you can collect it too. How many input watt for that?

Less interfering may be safer, but what if the key is that interference ? Some people here actually waiting for the device to produce something that can be felt with our body...

[sucahyo]

magnetic amp?

John Bedini mention magnetic amplifier at Ferris thread. Here is my implementation:



3V stingo with car coil output raised from 2.65V to 18V when the HV terminal is connected to single diode output.
YouTube - Stingo magnetic amp?

Cool .

For more info look at Ferris wheel thread page 5. The car coil secondary is 18 kilo ohm if not mistaken, so it would not draw much current from output. But I still fail to use this configuration to charge battery.

This is much better than just shorting out the secondary .

[Farmhand]

Having trouble uploading it's failed twice, third time lucky. 60% done on third attempt now.

I can get it down to about 200 to 400 Ma input DMM won't work so thats with 5 Amp Analogue not very accurite it can also go up to 1.5 Amps input with arcing and stuff . Battery charging isn't working too well, the protection neons are lit so maybe i can charge with it the normal way as well.

When this video is done uploading I have another.

Edit ! yay I got it to charge batteries now too and it's fast With Stingo like this the power is back to front I turn the pot which usually makes it use more power and it uses less there is a "range where the protection neons go out and the battery is charging then.

[Farmhand]

Here's the video.

YouTube - Volcano Coil Lighting and effects.wmv

Better one coming.

Cheers

[Farmhand]

Here's another vid and a drawing or two.

YouTube - Volcano-3-1.wmv





More pics





It's still getting better i've got a flashing neon on the collector coil output now.

Cheers

[Guruji]

winding the torroid

Today I began winding the torroid. It's a hell of a job Been winding it about 2hours now. Hope I did not use a thick gauge now

[cikljamas]

Yes.

Forget about efficiency for a moment and please answer this question:
- what is the output current of your three stingo while charging the battery?
- what is the output current of your single stingo while charging the battery?
- what is the input current of your three stingo while charging the battery?
- do you use big diode? It is very important for you to use more than 2 Amp diode.
- can you show your FWBR cominer photos?
- do you connect your circuit like this bellow? This incorporate three stingo which you already have, and you need to rebuild the FWBR to connect like shown.

Hi Sucahyo !
Let s answer your questions one by one :

1. Output of my three stingos while charging the batt. = 180mA (input 340)
2. Output of my single stingo while charging the batt. = 180mA (input 350)
You see : this 10 mA difference (340-350) is too little to be consider as
anything significant, that is the problem that i am talking about....
3. Regarding diodes, i used until today 1n4007s, but after i today saw
your notice about minimum requirement of 2 Amps i went to store and
bought bunch of 1n5408 and i of course at once tested them hoping that
this was the problem, but unfortunately nothing happened, maybe some
slightly, slightly improvement that i can not even register with my meters...
4. picture of my combiner :

http://www.energeticforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7060&stc=1&d=1290811938

5.Yes, i combine my circuit like this above !
In fact, when you see my combiner you will see everything because you
know how this thing works, if anything was wrong than you would/could
notice that in that picture of my combiner, am i right ?

Finally, stingo is superb, i am not disappointed at all, but of course that
i would be even more content and after all these problems HAPPY, if we
could solve this problem of NOT RAISING EFFICIENCY connecting more
stingo together !
It is also kind of contradicting to common sense that more stingos dont
give more power than single one...
I just do not know what else i could do to solve this problem.
The only one solution is to wait and see if Father of stingo could figure out
what is wrong here.

Rgds !

[cikljamas]

I forgot to say that i even replaced 1n4007s with 1n5408s on my stingos
too, not just on the combiner...

[Farmhand]

Hi all, I think i've got something very interesting, it's a bit soon to say, but I think i've got a self runner/charger that charges another battery and does wireless or one wire lighting to a degree and I think I can harvest more yet.

I've got the setup using only about 250.Ma maybe less and the totally separate collecter coil is output through symetrical series caps through a bridge and charging a 220v 200uf cap which is feeding the source battery through a neon every 10 seconds it drops a few volts from 78v aprox to 70v aprox, source battery voltage is rising 12.76v to start and after 5 mins 12.8 v after stopping ( I think it is getting feedback aswell somehow to the source battery when tuned correctly), then I have a battery charging from a diode in the standard recovery from stingo, it's 6v at the moment and is gong over 7.6 volts also neons and fluro's are lighting one wire or just grounded fluro's aren't very bright though.

I've tuned it down to a very small spark gap back to the negative, no top spark. It's fairly quiet like that and minimal interference, the output can be adjusted by very small adjustments to the spark gap distance. The top air gap needs to be adjusted to suit as well ( a one off when top gap is right for the coil no more adjustment needed).

I will make a video later today when I get time and a proper drawing aswell later. I'll leave it run for a couple of hours to see what happens, but I got to find a battery to charge, I had to stop it because the charging battery is charged.

Cheers all

Update- After resting both batteries for 30 mins souce battery is 12.82v it started at 12.76v, the charging battery is at 6.42v it started at 5.5v and that is after only about 10 mins operation. Oh my goodness. I think i found some gold. Very early days yet need an extended test problems will arise for sure, I will try it with a busted bulb for a spark gap if I can find one. That might help. Any other idea's for a durable very small spark gap, I tried a neon but it's not as good for some reason. A better way to pulse the energy back to primary would be handy too.

Oh and I forgot to say I am using a 3 to 1 transformer after the symetrical series caps, to charge the electrolytic cap to pulse back to the source battery.

[cikljamas]

Farmhand, give us diagram of your gold device, i understand almost
nothing what you are talking about ...So if you have found the gold
than it would be better to give us diagram before you became sure that
it is what you, for now, just THINK it is...Because once you become sure
i am not sure you are going to give us all details about it just like that
...No, i am just joking, i am sure you would give us your gold, though
maybe we are not deserve it...
Cheers !

[SeaMonkey]

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Any other idea's for a durable very small spark gap, I tried a neon but it's not as good for some reason. A better way to pulse the energy back to primary would be handy too.
...

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[Farmhand]

cikljamas, Don't worry everything is already shared, I am uploading a video now and will make an updated drawing tonight, I didn't want to post too many drawings because I am changing it every 5 minuits .

Just did another short test and lost a bit on the source battery trying different tuning, but it still ended up .02v higher than first start this morning.

I'm not jumping to any conclusions yet thats for sure, I wont be lighting any 150 watt bulbs with it. It's very hard to explain without going round and round in circles and tying myself in a knot. You'll get it it's not complicated just a bit strange.

Seamonkey, Thank you very much again. I haven't looked at it yet but i'm sure it will be good.

Cheers

Edit cikljamas Have a look at this for now -
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...001.JPG?psid=1

A few posts back there are a couple of picture's and a video.

[crackahcrackah]

Update- After resting both batteries for 30 mins souce battery is 12.82v it started at 12.76v, the charging battery is at 6.42v it started at 5.5v and that is after only about 10 mins operation. Oh my goodness. I think i found some gold. Very early days yet need an extended test problems will arise for sure, I will try it with a busted bulb for a spark gap if I can find one. That might help. Any other idea's for a durable very small spark gap, I tried a neon but it's not as good for some reason. A better way to pulse the energy back to primary would be handy too.

Oh and I forgot to say I am using a 3 to 1 transformer after the symetrical series caps, to charge the electrolytic cap to pulse back to the source battery.

Run all these tests with capacitors in place of the batteries to make sure you're not encountering issues with the batteries. Capacitors are more accurate and don't have the bounce back and fluctuation that batteries do.

[cikljamas]

cikljamas, Don't worry everything is already shared, I am uploading a video now and will make an updated drawing tonight, I didn't want to post too many drawings because I am changing it every 5 minuits .

Just did another short test and lost a bit on the source battery trying different tuning, but it still ended up .02v higher than first start this morning.

I'm not jumping to any conclusions yet thats for sure, I wont be lighting any 150 watt bulbs with it. It's very hard to explain without going round and round in circles and tying myself in a knot. You'll get it it's not complicated just a bit strange.

Seamonkey, Thank you very much again. I haven't looked at it yet but i'm sure it will be good.




Edit cikljamas Have a look at this for now -
http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...001.JPG?psid=1

A few posts back there are a couple of picture's and a video.

Thanks Farmhand !
Well, now i must to put you a few questions..
That ignition coil, where i should search to provide that ?
Volcano coil, that is something homemade i suppose ?
In that drawing there is no 3 to 1 transformer, you should add that too
for us suckers !
And how to recognize 3 to 1 transformer, could you express it in voltages ?

I hope too ,you are making something really marvellous !

Cheers!