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i do think it will work this time and i also will try to explain why i had difficulty with the balance/scales before. around these devices is like a bubble or shell with an inner shell or boundary layer. when i was holding objects above or at the plane, the object was always in contact with both layers/boundary's. i could feel a weight difference when i was moving the object through these layers, but a scale, not moving, showed no weight change. the inner layer is the upward convective flow, and can be coaxed into flowing in a wire like i did in the video. now that the energy is flowing, there is no need for movement of an object to feel the weight difference or measure it. i am getting my setup ready, longer pipe in the ground, rotor mods etc. and i believe i will get the results i seek. thanks again, david
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A food of thoughts:
Two colliding magnetic fields distort the gravitational field around the objects. This is well-known phenomenon many many years ago at least 60 - 70 years ago.
To check the air movement by possible heat, measure the temperature of the device while in operation right on the surface and middle of the rotational axis.
Having exact same temperature would tell the optical illusion by air.
To find out whether it's optical illusion or real gravitational field distortion, you need use a test object that has a specific mass that doesn't bend or move around by air movement from (supposedly) heat. (A metal ball or something does free fall straight in the air.)
Another option is to install laser beam near the center of rotational axis. If there is no significant gravitational distortion, the laser beam will shoot vertical to the top (zero angle.) 0.5 degree of the gravitational field distortion - actual bending of space - will make incline straight line and you will definitely see reverse triangle of the laser beam. Otherwise, it would be cylinder / pole shape of the laser beam.
Also you need to measure the weight difference of the objects one inside the field, the other one in outside. Gravitational distortion, of course how big it is dictates the weight difference, does affects the weight of objects. For example, the test object is 1 Kg, it will be less than 1Kg under artificial gravity.
One thing I can tell the mainstream sciences and technologies are heavily distorted and cut out especially energy generation and propulsion systems. Google "Electrogravitics" for half hour, you will find great amount of information.
I used to have one big question "How much do they know? How much we haven't been told?" Cause I had been down the rabbit hole really deep almost twenty years for my curiosity. In modern days, the science became the religions. Nowadays I only hope and try to have a real free energy device and have off-grid living once and for all.
Only the open-minded individual learns and discover new stuff.Last edited by freepenguin; 06-30-2011, 02:07 PM.
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the way i have my device set up is not quite right yet. the segments need to be attached to a metal plate instead of the HDPE. i also think i need more metal mass below the device, possibly partly stationary [like the engine block & crankshaft]. i am getting FLOW of this energy, and it is getting stronger. using a magnet at the equator to pull some of this energy off works well also. so far, i have been able to get the bottom link of a small steel chain to jump up off the next link, holding it at the point of vortex about 12 inches above my device. this upflow energy is what i have been looking for all along. thanks EVERYONE for helping me get it this far, david
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David,
That is great.
Here is a link to a 1.7 megabyte image of it:
IndianaBoys
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temperature
if you think of this like temperature, imagine a room, and ambient [neutral] temperature is a plane [horiz] in the middle of the room. one inch equals one degree difference, up or down. when temperature of an object is higher than the surrounding air, it will radiate an upflowing convection current that distorts the image [like a mirage does]until the temp is neutral again .one inch/degree is not much, but if there is a large temp difference, there will be a large flow. with these devices, the energy flows this same way. the farther away from neutral, the more flow can be made. when these devices are spinning, they can throw off extra G energy, and push up extra L [levity] energy. if i use the same neutral point for gravity, i can make an analogy. at earths surface, an object has more of the G in it, giving it "weight". if some of the G is removed, L will be added, and if i get enough G out and L in, i can get an object to be neutral [buoyant]. this energy permeates everything and is what fluidity really is. i held a small chain at the N pole and at ONE single spot above [off axis], there was enough L energy to lift the end link up just a tiny bit. if i place the wire hook at that same place, and put a magnet on the ground rod [tube] at the equator, i get a small flow happening, up the wire into the chain and back into the air. this is visible and distorts the visual like a mirage does. just like heat does, except no heat. although there is a "warm" sensation where the L upflow is happening.......more soon, david
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At last, a workable model!
David -Originally posted by david lambright View PostYouTube - ‪an explanation‬‏ i know there will be questions, i hope someone can see the flow of energy....thanks, david
Excellent work, you had conviction all the way through the process of testing, trying to prove it to people, and so many doubters. There are a couple of things I'd like to point out...
- In Ed's wheel, he used a piece of iron bar, about the diameter of a silver dollar that ran all the way through the wood "workbench." It sat right in front of the wheel, and probably charged with magnetic current as the wheel was spinning. He used this for collection of some of the energy.
- He had equipment suspended by chains over the top of his wheel (as you are doing with your own insulated chain).
I think Ed may have had his energy flow in the opposite direction - if his chain was attached to the ground (grounded), and hung over the wheel, and the iron rod was used as a collector, the energy may have been pulled down through the chain, into the wheel, dissipated outward to the iron rod, and then used immediately or stored in his glass bottle capacitors.
-Van
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- In Ed's wheel, he used a piece of iron bar, about the diameter of a silver dollar that ran all the way through the wood "workbench." It sat right in front of the wheel, and probably charged with magnetic current as the wheel was spinning. He used this for collection of some of the energy.
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I See it ! It looks like there is a shadow like the shadow of smoke coming from the tip of the main shadow (the clip) on the paper, I see a swirly turbulent kind of thing which is narrow nrear the clip and wider a bit further away but it is fleeting and difficult to see. But I do see it.
I think I kind of agree with you about what is happening too, the centrifugal force on the mass creates a radiation of energy out the equator and that causes a gravitation of energy to enter the poles in a swirly way through vorticies however I think that the radiated energy can be captured as well as the energy trying to enter the top and the bottom to replace what is radiated. I imagine that if some the infow was tapped it would still need to replace what is radiated from the equator so maybe there is the potential for tapping much more from the inflow.
Very interesting David, it actually looks like you have built a small planet.
How heavy is the rotating part of you're setup ? It spins good.
Oh and I was thinking, instead of the piece of lead as an equatorial sink what about a steel cylinder that can rotate on a bearing with a longitudinal coil wound on it or even a coil wound around it like a solenoid.
Cheers
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new video
YouTube - ‪an explanation‬‏ i know there will be questions, i hope someone can see the flow of energy....thanks, david
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hi
my brother andy is visiting from cali, [its been 9 years since i saw him], and i tried to duplicate the FF experiment, and could not get it to work
...david
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Hi david very interesting stuff with the ferro fluid, I hope it is safe stuff.
Anyway I was thinking, what if you were to pull and expand the ferro fluid just a bit in the center of "balance" so to speak or just past or before the center of ballance "timing", with an electromagnet to temporarily displace some fluid which would draw more up the the magnets then releases and creates an overbalance, this would also start the process "if it worked" or morso if it ever stopped. It need only be enough to displace some fluid in a "draw pump" kind of thing to have the action of the bulb on some syphon hoses.
Can the action of the moving ferro fluid be used to make electricity with coils ?
Cheers
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Hi David,
Sometimes it helps to create a force diagram and see if the forces balance out or maintain asymmetry around the loop.
If gravity is acting for you on the right side of your loop, then it is acting against you on the left.
Also, if the magnet is acting to pull the fluid up below the magnet, then it is also acting to pull the fluid down above the magnet.
Another point to consider, is that more fluid will be grouped around the magnet and this combined with the same path length of loop will have greater mass than that on the right side of the loop.
So from an engineering perspective, you need to develop the forces involved in such a way that the gravitational force on the right is greater than the combined forces on the left. Then it is simply a matter of trying to get the right values to satisfy that equation.
Do you think you can create a magnetic wick? Would a ladder using magnets as rungs act as a wick if placed in a bowl of ferro-fluid? If so, how far will the fluid wick up, is there a limit - and if there is a limit what imposes it?
How is time involved? Perhaps the wick takes longer to fill the reservoir than the siphon takes to empty it. Does this indicate a pulse mechanism may be needed to get it to work? Would adding valves in the tube, like those found in our leg arteries to keep the blood from falling back down, be of a benefit here?
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a concept

Uploaded with ImageShack.us this is just something i thought of, i dont think it will work.......the other experiment i did was too hard to keep the tube immersed in the fluid, very small flow only.........i think this concept should work....then again, i have been wrong MANY times before.....please let me know your thoughts on whether you think this will work or not...davidLast edited by david lambright; 06-18-2011, 06:17 PM.
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wick
on another forum we discussed this, the magnets act like a super efficient wick, drawing the ferro fluid up the stack easily and creating a "pool" of fluid with the EXACT same surface tension as the fluid in the bottom of the container...the FF i use is from Fer O Tec....david
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hi jet
i PM the info to you, for the next person in line. thank you for all your help with this ...david
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here is that chart, david
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