Donald Smith Devices too good to be true

[radioionics]

Cant see the new circuit...?

We follow you with no good result... I did not see anyone be disrespectful here... It is way better for that than OU.com.

We just need more precise information. If you don't want to disclose it publicly just share privately with the few who jump in..

ps.: this whant to be a constructive post.

* This circuit has not been tested.

[tswift]

Yes, it hit me in the face earlier today, before your post. I have redrawn the circuit to reflect the new upgrade. I appreciate the feedback.

I don't agree about not using the antenna and ground. They aid in the extraction of energy. Without them the energy is mostly drawn from the HVM, and in doing so your batteries will become depleted and have to be charged from the grid, or from a generator.

Is there really a need for you to be nasty about the way I reveal the tech to you? Show some appreciation in the fact that I've been willing to share it at all on this forum. I wasn't going too but Paul convinced me that it was going to be different this time around. Was he wrong?

You are correct, there is no need for acrimony and I don't mean to cause any. Let me explain the situation. You say you are frustrated, we are frustrated too. Dragon said it quite well before. I feel like I am getting the run-around. I agreed to build a replication on the understanding that it was a working design as specified. I spent considerable time and effort on doing so, and I'm not done yet. I didn't want to make changes in order to provide a genuine and accurate third-party proof of a working device. Then we find out that not only was the specification incomplete, but that you expect us to fill in the gaps. I might have still undertaken the build on that basis but it would have been nice to know. Then when some of us go ahead and do our own speculating and experimenting, this is taken as getting off topic and is frustrating to you.

It feels to me like we're stuck in a bad rerun, a broken record that we've all heard before. Remember Don, who said and even showed some remarkable things but would never quite tell everything? Remember Zilano, who showed up making extraordinary claims and drew schematic after schematic but would never say which one was "the one"? A few others claimed some positive results but would never show pictures or video, or even measurements. Paul says that Don should be largely dismissed because there is no proof that what he said was true. At the moment that statement applies equally well to yourself because so far we have seen no proof. I am willing to stick with this effort for the long haul, but when do we arrive at some definite positive results? If you or some other replicator has a genuine working device, why can we not see it?

Amongst all this it's easy to lost sight of the big picture. The big picture is billions of suffering humans that DESPERATELY need this technology and a human race with a very dim future unless we can find a way to finally bring it from the shadows into the light. I have zero doubts that the technology is genuine, that radiant energy and high power overunity are possible. I have certainly seen hints myself on my own workbench, enough to know that there is physics beyond what is normally taught and accepted. Whatever path gets us from where we are now, to bringing this technology to humanity is the one we should take, and as soon as possible. If I am standing in the way of this goal then I will go back to what I was doing before, working on my own.

[Wistiti]

Yes, it hit me in the face earlier today, before your post. I have redrawn the circuit to reflect the new upgrade. I appreciate the feedback.

Is there really a need for you to be nasty about the way I reveal the tech to you? Show some appreciation in the fact that I've been willing to share it at all on this forum. I wasn't going too but Paul convinced me that it was going to be different this time around. Was he wrong?

Cant see the new circuit...?

We follow you with no good result... I did not see anyone be disrespectful here... It is way better for that than OU.com.

We just need more precise information. If you don't want to disclose it publicly just share privately with the few who jump in..

ps.: this whant to be a constructive post.

[Wistiti]

It's all a process of how humans learn and retain information. I have tried other methods of teaching over the years and they were proven to be ineffective.

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So....???

[radioionics]

Don't you realize that in this configuration the whole top part of the circuit becomes redundant? Let's see, so far we have found out that the secondary resistor and the tuning caps are all redundant. Now we find out that the antenna itself is redundant. Hmm, it's almost as if the whole circuit is mostly just obfuscation wrapped around what is at its essence a very simple principle. I wonder which part will be discovered to be redundant next?

The HV supply plays the role of the ionosphere in Tesla's radiant energy patent. The energy attracted up from the Earth to meet the HV is cold electricity.

So now that we have the input stage of the Don Smith device, all that's missing is the high power output stage. Using the cap bank I think I know how to build it. I won't bother speculating, I'll just show it working once I have it.

I don't appreciate being played for a fool.

Yes, it hit me in the face earlier today, before your post. I have redrawn the circuit to reflect the new upgrade. I appreciate the feedback.

I don't agree about not using the antenna and ground. They aid in the extraction of energy. Without them the energy is mostly drawn from the HVM, and in doing so the batteries will become depleted, and have to be charged from the grid, generator, or from a solar panel.

Is there really a need for you to be nasty about the way I reveal the tech to you? Show some appreciation in the fact that I've been willing to share it at all on this forum, please. I wasn't going too but Paul convinced me that it was going to be different this time around. Was he wrong?

[radioionics]

Ok I give a second try to the "reveled" circuit but this time inside with no antenna or ground connected.... You know what; the result are exactly the same as the previous one... So there seem nothing special happen here then a normal step down transformer..........................

I fundamentally believe the majority of the people are good and respectful... and I really hope this Radioionic is the real Bruce A Perreault.... And if so, than Bruce is a real good guys... When Soundiceuk have said this:"I PROMISE this is genuine! I wouldn't waste your time or my time! We haven't got time for that!" I believe him.... So I join in.
The thing I don't understand is if you really have a working device and want a third party to approve it why you let the few one how rise their hand to invest and duplicate goes in confusion...???

The effect on me is not learning; it's it create doubt...

Hope to have some answer soon...

It's all a process of how humans learn and retain information. I have tried other methods of teaching over the years and they were proven to be ineffective.

[Wistiti]

Don't you realize that in this configuration the whole top part of the circuit becomes redundant? Let's see, so far we have found out that the secondary resistor and the tuning caps are all redundant. Now we find out that the antenna itself is redundant. Hmm, it's almost as if the whole circuit is mostly just obfuscation wrapped around what is at its essence a very simple principle. I wonder which part will be discovered to be redundant next?

The HV supply plays the role of the ionosphere in Tesla's radiant energy patent. The energy attracted up from the Earth to meet the HV is cold electricity.

So now that we have the input stage of the Don Smith device, all that's missing is the high power output stage. Using the cap bank I think I know how to build it. I won't bother speculating, I'll just show it working once I have it.

I don't appreciate being played for a fool.

I think you are completely right.........

[Wistiti]

Well ain't that pretty... Congrats Wistiti !!! I can feel your excitement all the way over here...

What is the bulb are you lighting?

I don't know the value but it is a small, low watt, 12v brake light.

[Wistiti]

Ok I give a second try to the "reveled" circuit but this time inside with no antenna or ground connected.... You know what; the result are exactly the same as the previous one... So there seem nothing special happen here then a normal step down transformer..........................

I fundamentally believe the majority of the people are good and respectful... and I really hope this Radioionic is the real Bruce A Perreault.... And if so, than Bruce is a real good guys... When Soundiceuk have said this:"I PROMISE this is genuine! I wouldn't waste your time or my time! We haven't got time for that!" I believe him.... So I join in.
The thing I don't understand is if you really have a working device and want a third party to approve it why you let the few one how rise their hand to invest and duplicate goes in confusion...???

The effect on me is not learning; it's it create doubt...

Hope to have some answer soon...

[tswift]

Antenna side responds the same way you said. Gap will not fire.

Don't you realize that in this configuration the whole top part of the circuit becomes redundant? Let's see, so far we have found out that the secondary resistor and the tuning caps are all redundant. Now we find out that the antenna itself is redundant. Hmm, it's almost as if the whole circuit is mostly just obfuscation wrapped around what is at its essence a very simple principle. I wonder which part will be discovered to be redundant next?

The HV supply plays the role of the ionosphere in Tesla's radiant energy patent. The energy attracted up from the Earth to meet the HV is cold electricity.

So now that we have the input stage of the Don Smith device, all that's missing is the high power output stage. Using the cap bank I think I know how to build it. I won't bother speculating, I'll just show it working once I have it.

I don't appreciate being played for a fool.

[Mwtj]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiii, Haaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Try the last modification ( connect the - of hv directly to the ground) and it is the best light output I can see with this circuit until now. I don't know if I have to say it but "im happy!"

Im short in time right now so I just give it a try. I absoluttly don't know the p in vs the p out... the real test will be to loop it...

Thank you Bruce for the hint! One thing that buzz me is the PPV's does not fire at the same rate... The one on the ground side is way more active than the one on the antenna side.... sometime only the PPV on the ground side fire.

More to come!

ps. if you put attention in the photo you will see the bulb is shorted... the hi frequency of this circuit seem to have the same effect then the "Tesla hairpin" circuit...

Antenna side responds the same way you said. Gap will not fire.

not exact to real life.
Circuit Simulator Applet

[dragon]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiii, Haaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Try the last modification ( connect the - of hv directly to the ground) and it is the best light output I can see with this circuit until now. I don't know if I have to say it but "im happy!"

Im short in time right now so I just give it a try. I absoluttly don't know the p in vs the p out... the real test will be to loop it...

Thank you Bruce for the hint! One thing that buzz me is the PPV's does not fire at the same rate... The one on the ground side is way more active than the one on the antenna side.... sometime only the PPV on the ground side fire.

More to come!

ps. if you put attention in the photo you will see the bulb is shorted... the hi frequency of this circuit seem to have the same effect then the "Tesla hairpin" circuit...

Well ain't that pretty... Congrats Wistiti !!! I can feel your excitement all the way over here...

What is the bulb are you lighting?

[Wistiti]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiii, Haaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!

Try the last modification ( connect the - of hv directly to the ground) and it is the best light output I can see with this circuit until now. I don't know if I have to say it but "im happy!"

Im short in time right now so I just give it a try. I absoluttly don't know the p in vs the p out... the real test will be to loop it...

Thank you Bruce for the hint! One thing that buzz me is the PPV's does not fire at the same rate... The one on the ground side is way more active than the one on the antenna side.... sometime only the PPV on the ground side fire.

More to come!

ps. if you put attention in the photo you will see the bulb is shorted... the hi frequency of this circuit seem to have the same effect then the "Tesla hairpin" circuit...

[jim glinski]

Grounds

I don't know if this helps but the old timers would search out ground current flow Thu dosing might try a little dosing find a strong current and plug in to it . a fast and dirty way is to use a half inch steel pipe with the end cut into teeth then connect a water hose to the other end will go down 300ft also if you can pull up the pipe and add salt like a pound of it that helps. Use a pare of vice grips for handles. Another one is dig a trench 20 ft long two ft deep get a bare copper ground wire weave the wire Thu the links of a login chain lay into trench add salt and water well fill in water well again .

[radioionics]

Last question: can we connect the both at the same time or it will affect the suppression of the half of the cycle...??

Thank you!

Yes, doing this adds negative ions to the ground. Their energy is dumped into L3/L4 step down and charge the batteries on the second half of the cycle.