The Mechanical Engine

[Inquorate]

Simulation software

This was posted in veljko milkovic oscillator thread, may be of interest to ppl working on this project too.

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[ren]

Thanks Marxist for those pages.

Peter I have never seen it before. It was one of those random generated videos which come up when you first open youtube. What interested me was all the noise generated by....something. It appeared to me that there was oscillating forces at play within the framework like a pendulum action, but its hard to make out. It could be a lever or rachet system or something else too.. It made me think of this thread.

Regards

[marxist]

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YouTube - G-Force Rotational machine

The inventor's website:
http://karragreenenergy.com/Electricity.html
(see bottom of page for pictures)

His patents (to download follow links):
esp@cenet — results view

[Peter Lindemann]

Perhaps....

Peter, have you seen this and if so, is it relevant to the topic?

YouTube - G-Force Rotational machine

Ren,

I have seen this footage before. It is dated 1993. It appears to be a real Gravity Engine, if such a thing can be made. It certainly seems to be a Mechanical Engine, so would be relevant to this thread IF there were more authoritative information available about the design.

Do you know anything more about this?

Peter

[ren]

Peter, have you seen this and if so, is it relevant to the topic?

YouTube - G-Force Rotational machine

[Ted Ewert]

Ted

Not sure if you were directing your question to me - No I have not built, but after looking at the Bessler drawings it struck me that by moving the axle position relative to the wheel, you are achieving the same effect as moving weights outboard/inboard. My take on some of Besslers drawing is that what he was trying to do. I just posted to share ideas to increase the possible knowledge base.

Regards

John

Hi John,
No, that was a left over reply from the Cloudseeder posts.
Nevertheless, it still surprises me that most people try to build unbalanced wheels instead of utilizing centrifugal force at perimeter of the wheel. I have yet to see an unbalanced wheel work, and I have seen and tried a lot of variations. I know Peter's wheel is based on sound physics since I've build a number of Milkovic oscillators and have seen and measured their output.
This is why I keep harping on building. The common "laws" of physics are flawed and incomplete. Designing mechanisms based on these laws also become flawed. Once something is built, it either works as planned or you can see why it doesn't.
"Unbalanced" doesn't work because there is no net energy generated by part of the wheel. It may appear unbalanced, but nature doesn't see it that way. Peter's design is truly unbalanced, since there is net energy gain on one side of the wheel. The centrifugal force of the swinging weight adds real energy to the rotation of the wheel.
Gravity alone isn't enough. It's like trying to get energy from a magnet without moving it. There has to be an intervening mechanism to tap into the potential. For mechanical rotation, centrifugal force fits the bill.

Cheers,

Ted

[john_g]

So, you've built this and it works?

Ted

Not sure if you were directing your question to me - No I have not built, but after looking at the Bessler drawings it struck me that by moving the axle position relative to the wheel, you are achieving the same effect as moving weights outboard/inboard. My take on some of Besslers drawing is that what he was trying to do. I just posted to share ideas to increase the possible knowledge base.

Regards

John

[Dingus]

I've found that I can get use of the laser CNC on my college campus, and I was considering prototyping Peter's "Mechanical Engine" (funny name) and I was wondering if anyone else has already tried building one, or having tried any type of physics simulation of it first?

All I'll need is a good vector template of the parts to print out in illustrator, and some material stronger then cardboard :P and I could get started printing.

Going to sleep now, I'll get started on the template later today/tomorrow.

[CloudSeeder]

Thanks. I placed 5 opening posts there this morning. It is now open to go any direction any commenters wish to take it, or not. Free Bird as they say.

[admin]

CloudSeeder's Gravity Wheel on Fire thread

There is a dedicated thread to CloudSeeder's Gravity Wheel on Fire here:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3918-cloudseeders-gravity-wheel-fire.html

[Joit]

I wonder more and more about the Fact, that there are so much Peoples out,
what do all theoretical or simulate something,
and claim, That works, or that dont works.
And complete trust at this, what they have learned in School and read somewhere and rely at her Simulations,
even when they are made from Humans, what put only her Parameters in, with what the Program works and run.

Is that really all, what the World and the living can teach them now, just to do some Simulations?

[Ted Ewert]

So, you've built this and it works?

[john_g]

Hi All

Thought I would put up another idea to change the CofG of a wheel. As can be seen on the attached graphic, if a device consists of a floating main beam operated by seperate weights to push/pull the main beam out of balance. Maybe via weights and cranks as shown, or weights operating hydraulic rams.

Just a thought.

Regards

John

[CloudSeeder]

Thanks Mark. I wanted to give everybody the day and time so you could not feel like ya had to sit on the edge or something. I don't believe in abusing people. I'm not a carrot dangler. I do believe in Meat and Potatoes. I don't like people who promise stuff and then crap out either. I've done these things before on sudden deadlines I decided to meet. Five days is generous enough.

[Mark]

I look forward to reading your thread Cloudseeder!