The Mechanical Engine

[Inquorate]

Peter

My purpose behind including those two other systems was to promote discussion of what does not work.

I have been researching bessler's designs - the ones that didn't work - and what became obvious is what you have said - gravity alone will not be sufficient to turn the wheel.

But, gravity can cause a weight to swing, and the extra force obtained will theoretically tip the balance. Pun intended.

Love and light,
Ben

[Joit]

Quite intresting still.
I think, you can apply that at any Coil or working with Current too, that you actually get twice a Neutral Point at a complete Round.

[Peter Lindemann]

Doesn't Work

Directory:Bob Kostoff Gravity Machine - PESWiki

Hi Guys,

First of all, the Chas Campbell Gravity Wheel was thoroughly investigated by the folks at PANACEA. It does not work.

Second, the page at PESwiki on Bob Kostoff is a reasonable assessment of the situation. None of the films show enough detail of the machine to know anything about it's real method of operation. No one has been allowed to see the machine and report back in the public domain about it's operational validity. No patents or patent applications have shown up in the public records. So, we don't know anything about it.

Three, the reason I published my article on The Mechanical Engine is to provide researchers with a CLEAR PATH forward in this research. Gravity, by itself, is NOT available as an energy source. Only CENTRIFUGAL FORCE is available to be harnessed as it moves a mass through a distance of travel, and therefore EVOLVES WORK simply from rotation (W=f x d). It is also clear that Centrifugal Force in the RADIAL VECTOR is also NOT available to drive the mechanism, as it simply produces a force against the perimeter. This is why the weights SWING. Only a Centrifugal Force produced tangentially to the axis is available to drive the machine. This requires the wheel to turn SLOWLY enough to allow this process to happen, and not be overcome by the force in the radial vector.

With cleaver mechanical arrangements, and a careful study of NATURE, the "f" in the equation W=f x d can be Centrifugal Force, and a true, fuel-less engine can be made using mechanical principles.

Bessler did it in 1712. I believe that my Mechanical Engine article describes the proper principles involved in Bessler's system, even if the design still needs refinement.

I would prefer this thread not degrade into a rehash of all the other failed designs out there.

Peter

[Inquorate]

How about this guy?

Directory:Bob Kostoff Gravity Machine - PESWiki

[Vulcan]

That giant wheel Chas Campbell made that uses the pool balls sure does look interesting. After sketching it out on paper and looking at the basic principles it looks to me that it would not work though. Chas explains leverage in his machine as a weight is mounted on the outer wheel while another is mounted on the opposite side of the inner wheel. Due to the ball return system that uses gravity, the outer wheel is limited on space where the weights will touch. There would be double the amount of weights on the inner wheel compared to the outer so it would just balance out. Pretty hard to write it down, anyone follow?

[Joit]

YouTube - Chas Campbell - Gravity Wheel

I found this, unfortunately.



And for the Sience, i think, it isnt all a Lie, there are couple Things some usefull,
but they stuff a lot Holes, what they cannot Explain, or her other Theories dont match anymore and would crash down the Rest.
And then, they bend the Rest, how they like it, that some Dr. Dr. Prof got a comfortable Life, maybe, when he 'Discover' something Big, once in his Life.
Sometimes i think our Sience just goes till the Border of our Frontdoor.
But understandable, when you cant proove and show something, you get mostly the Outsider our Wierdos Stamp.
Seems, it is you only legal to reasearch outside the Box, when you get payed for that.

[Ted Ewert]

Yes Peter, you are right
It all makes perfect sense now. I remember adam_ant talked a lot about spirals in nature and spiral shaped coils. Shauberger also talks alot about spirals. Now I sort of got that. We must understand, that we are not living in this one dimention. We are never standing still, because our earth is rotating and it is moving around the sun in the same time. The sun also does not stand still, you know If we take all this into account, then it is suddenly no wonder that rivers flow like they do. Electricity is also a movement, no wonder that various spiral shaped coils produce strange effect sometimes and oscillate at their resonant frequency even without any input power
This is a good food for thought.
Thanks Ted!

A guy I really like to read, and you might also enjoy, is Walter Russell. He's not always easy to understand, but he has a very interesting theory on the physical universe. He claims that he gets his understanding through direct knowledge imparted in a high state of consciousness. Most people who claim to have this type of knowledge are full of horse****, but I think this guy is different.
The reason I like him is because the more I experiment and learn, the more his theory fits in with what I find to work. This is the only criteria that I really pay attention to: does it work or not?
I spend a lot of time and energy building devices to see if a theory really does what it claims. I've built a lot of stuff that sounds real good in theory but doesn't work at all in reality. So I have come to develop my own theory about how physics work, based on what I have read and found out for myself.
The world is much more fascinating and enjoyable if one keeps an open mind to new possibilities. It's easy to become jaded and cynical because of all the false promises we receive throughout our lives. But that's just a form of escape and protection. Discovering a new aspect of Nature that yields yet another form of Her boundless energy is worth slogging through all the BS to get to. Mother Nature will reveal her secrets to the earnest seeker. Ask and ye shall receive, knock and the door will be opened.
Metaphysically speaking, this whole creation is a lie. It is not the ultimate reality and has about as much real substance as a bad dream. Nevertheless, it has purpose and structure, which means there is logic and reason behind it's creation. Our lot as sentient beings is to figure out what the real purpose and structure are.
I've looked extensively into man's sordid history and find far more revulsion than inspiration. That's why I like the beauty and simplicity of Mother Nature. It may be a form of non reality in one sense, but while I have to live in it, it is an inspiration of brilliant construct at every turn. I am in a constant state of humbled awe while exploring the mechanisms of this wonderful creation. The Great Architect has kindly provided the disillusioned among us a lifetime of fascinating aspects of His physical universe to explore.

Cheers,

Ted

[Inquorate]

Found this

YouTube - Chas Campbell - Gravity Wheel

[Jetijs]

Jetijs,

This YouTube clip is way too good. Humans should not be allowed to know this much!

Peter

Yes Peter, you are right
It all makes perfect sense now. I remember adam_ant talked a lot about spirals in nature and spiral shaped coils. Shauberger also talks alot about spirals. Now I sort of got that. We must understand, that we are not living in this one dimention. We are never standing still, because our earth is rotating and it is moving around the sun in the same time. The sun also does not stand still, you know If we take all this into account, then it is suddenly no wonder that rivers flow like they do. Electricity is also a movement, no wonder that various spiral shaped coils produce strange effect sometimes and oscillate at their resonant frequency even without any input power
This is a good food for thought.
Thanks Ted!

[Inquorate]

I'll be honest

I thought that while the bessler wheel might be a nice toy, that it would quickly stop if it was connected to a load..

Apparently not so;

http://www.free-energy.co.uk/html/body_the_wheel_tests.html

I'm back on board

[Ted Ewert]

Thanks guys.
I went from orbits to vortexes, then to pulsed vortexes. A pulsed vortex will get you lots of energy too.
I saw one of those finned, vortex producing devices used on the input of an engine in an ad. It looked pathetic to me, so I designed a unit that would produce a serious vortex and stuck it on my motorcycle. It worked really good. So I stuck one on my car and it worked good too, although not as good as the one on the bike. I realized that the vortex worked best in a pulsed mode. Between engine cycles, the air in the intake area continued to rotate even though the intake valve was closed. This produced pressure as the air continued being drawn into the vortex. When the intake valve opened, pressurized air was available instead of having to draw air in.
The car didn't work quite as well because it's a four cylinder, and there is not as much time between cycles to build up pressure.
In the case of my bike, I had to significantly richen up the mixture in order for it to burn correctly. This also really increased low end torque while still getting the same gas mileage as before. If I take the unit off the bike, the power and the mileage take a dive. Patrick Kelly did a little write up about it on page 159 of chapter 10 if anyone's interested.
Anyway, one more thought... We've all seen the path of a river flowing over relatively flat land. It twists and turns and rarely runs in a straight line. This is because water will always travel through the path of least resistance and the path of least resistance is obviously not a straight line.
At first glance, a curvy course may seem like it would have more resistance than a straight line. However, when one takes into account that centrifugal force adds energy to any moving body, then things look different.
A river is constantly adding energy to it's flow through every twist and turn. Every turn sees water flowing in an arc just like a pendulum. Why should a river be any different than Milkovic's two stage oscillator? Adding energy is the same as lowering the resistance to any moving mass. Now you know why water always attempts to bend and twist while running in a stream.



Ted

[Peter Lindemann]

Wooooo

Ted, great post!
This animation can probably help to better understand what Ted said:
YouTube - Visualization of the Coriolis and centrifugal forces

Jetijs,

This YouTube clip is way too good. Humans should not be allowed to know this much!

Peter

[Jetijs]

Ted, great post!
This animation can probably help to better understand what Ted said:
YouTube - Visualization of the Coriolis and centrifugal forces

[Peter Lindemann]

Nice Post

Ted,

Thanks for your broad, overview on the topic of harnessing Centrifugal Force for a gain in Work. Nature is using this principle all of the time, as you point out.

I hadn't figured out the stuff about elliptical orbits yet. Cleaver of you to see that!

Great stuff!

Peter

[Joit]

Very good Point Ted