Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator Video

[Inquorate]

I got ribbed about doing too much talking...

@Aromaz, sorry it was a link from a page nat posted a link to on gray tube thread.

It's down the page a bit, the guy was a quaker.

See you's all when I've done some experiments

[Inquorate]

Forgot link

Tesla's Lost Inventions - FUEL EFFICIEINT VEHICLES Journal

[ren]

Hi all

I tried this circuit and did see a considerable reduction in current when touching the CFL lamp from about 40mA to 20mA. However, the lamp was dim either way but did not reduce when touched. I tried to get the lamp to a practical brightness but the current always shot up. I eventually blew the transistors.

Hoppy

Hi Hoppy and Lid.

Interesting that you could get it working Lid with the CFL looped back into the ignition coil. I only got it to work when the globes were off 1 wire. And removing the second coil ceased the oscillations. Hoppy, I saw the same thing. Low amp draw is all good and well but if there is little illumination what is the point. I could get it really low, but the light was dim too.

@ Mutten. If you look inside the h11d1's package you will note there is a small npn transistor there. This is hooked up in a darlington configuration to my 2n3055. The base is triggered by the opto switch, which is on the other side. This is connected to my PWM. The PWM wasnt used in my above schematic, hence there is no triggering of the h11d1 conventionally.

[Inquorate]

No transistors

@ Aromaz lidmotor ren bodkins xenomorph and newbies who's names I don't remember yet:

what about a coherer? Will a coherer (iron filings in a sealed glass tube) turn 'on' with 12 to 24 volts? if so, will the current then charge a capacitor to ground (will get to infinite resistance for a dc current) until a resistor becomes a better choice, and current flows (thru ignition coil primary) to an electromagnet coil which creates a strong enough field to ground to knock out the coherer...

Using a variable cap and pot / reostat would change the timing.

I have everything to try it but the iron filings (which would take a long time to make enough to almost fill a glass eyedropper tube), and just wondering if anyone thought it would 'cohere' at low voltage.

Just thinking. Couldn't sleep.

[Aromaz]

@ Aromaz lidmotor ren bodkins xenomorph and newbies who's names I don't remember yet:

what about a coherer? Will a coherer (iron filings in a sealed glass tube) turn 'on' with 12 to 24 volts? if so, will the current then charge a capacitor to ground (will get to infinite resistance for a dc current) until a resistor becomes a better choice, and current flows (thru ignition coil primary) to an electromagnet coil which creates a strong enough field to ground to knock out the coherer...

Using a variable cap and pot / reostat would change the timing.

I have everything to try it but the iron filings (which would take a long time to make enough to almost fill a glass eyedropper tube), and just wondering if anyone thought it would 'cohere' at low voltage.

Just thinking. Couldn't sleep.

What is THAT? I was on my way to bed .....
Now on the way to Google!

[Aromaz]

[QUOTE=Inquorate;39907....... coherer (iron filings in a sealed glass tube) ......[/QUOTE]

OK, got it. But I can save you a lot of elbow work!
Get steelwool - those things women use in the kitchen to scrub pots and pans - sometimes ---- the very fine one, not the rough scourcher.

Grind it by rubbing together - or IF you dare, use 's
a blender while she is out to shooping........

Still following up on how to what the effects might be

[Aromaz]

BTW - on my original circuit - for those still playing with it.

I am also a bit tired or resoldering 3055's all the time, so I used many diodes all over to try and see how the 'flow; is.

Strange observation, might clip video later.

A: Sometimes flow is away from battery POS, next time again that does not work. Change the diode around - and working with flow (diode arrow) TO POS of same battery.

B: HV Probe (Have 5Kv) without spark gap jumping - emitter leg of 2222 circuit goes to 640Vdc (860 hz) - only connected to 24V Dc battery, and have 4007 diodes connected to both battery terminals. Steady sine wave. The HV from coil is only going out to fluorecent tube with coil wind around which is connected to 4 CFL's. Earth not connected anywhere.

C: Exactly same setup, but use earth to kickstart spark over gap (0.8 mm) then the scope goes crazy with 2.54 kHz frequency and 1,600 Volt - on emitter leg of 2222. Still steady sine wave - but crazy with many spikes. In other words - this is then going to the other 3055's on Base - BUT only in some cases. Other times it is steady low at 20 to 30 volt.

Now going to sleep, think and dream - and read about 'cohere' in bed. Will be back tomorrow to continue this seeking of the reason behind tranny failures..

[Bodkins]

YouTube - Bodkins 51 single wire charge EMP


Aromaz I have the 2n3055 need time to setup for you rep. try one wire charging Aromaz?

[Lidmotor]

Running on just 2222s

@ Aromaz,Ren, Bodkins,Inquorate,Nat, Hoppy,Xenomorph,--others

@Ren -- I did more testing with your 2 transistor circuit. I pulled the 2n3055 and ran it on two 2n2222s. Yes -- I burned em up but I had a bunch so I did not care. I ran a test at that very low amp draw/low light and did it using a bank of super caps instead of a battery. At 40 milliamps or less the little 2222s hung in there pretty good. This circuit will go into a low light strobe effect and run on almost nothing if the base of the first 2222 is just connected to a short clip lead. Touching the clip lead or connecting it to earth ground makes it go into the 40 milli amp steady light mode. I think that this is a feed back effect. Maybe the coils setup the resonance. The scope waveforms were compound but the dominate one had a tall spike with a little squiggle at the end.

@Aromaz---I have also been playing with diodes in different places and think that there is a way to protect the transistors from back spike burn out by putting the right one somewhere in the circuit.

@Inoquorate & Bodkins----The earth ground and antenna are still a puzzle for me. Now that I have a scope, I can see what they are doing to this circuit but how to best use the effect is the question.

Lidmotor

[Inquorate]

Coherers work with only low voltage?

Or maybe I can fiddle with construction to get one to work with higher voltage...

What's interesting is on this page the guy says he thinks a spark gap up to 20ft away causes a bit of current in the coherer which turns it on...

Could be a good indicator of radiant energy.

Homemade Coherer.

[Aromaz]

YouTube - Bodkins 51 single wire charge EMP
Aromaz I have the 2n3055 need time to setup for you rep. try one wire charging Aromaz?

Richard you do weird things and you get weird results. Last time I heard a similar sound was the police pulling me over for speeding!

Yes, I did try one wire charging before - and two wires. No charge.
As in one of my last video's the energy just leaks right out of the capacitor casing as corona - and I used diferent ones.

Since we know somehting of the radiant energy now, I doube that we would be able to collect that in good form into a cap or battery. At best we would be able to use the RE to create a normal EM effect and store that into the cap, yes.

Amongst other things I intend building a very powerful cap with glass dielectric, copper plates and will seal all in transformer oil bath.

[Inquorate]

Check these links out

Baking Soda Variable Electrolytic Capacitor.

Borax or Baking Soda Rectifier and the glow.

Carbon Arc RF Oscillator.

[Aromaz]

Different brand, different results - 3055

On previous experiments we already confirmed that not all 2222 transistors are the same. Now to add to the confusion:

Since I had more than 40pc of 2N3055 and since I never read they might not be all the same; I only used those STM's. During my last shopping trip to Bangkok there was a sale of Toshiba 2N3055 and at another shop there were Hitachi and others. Today I build 5 sets, exactly the same, even with same 2222A – except each one is using different 2N3055 brand names. All tested sets were TO-3 packages – plain 2N3055 no postfixes. Surprise – but should have known – THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. I tested the 2222/3055 sets on the same set-up with same coil, wires, location, lights, etc.

A: With original STMocroelectronics – Start each time without need of earth or antenna on 2222 base.
Frequency 820 without earth, 1.64kHz with earth on 2222 emitter.
Spark gap reach max 4 mm. Runs cool.

B: With Toshiba – does not start without earth ‘jump-start’ on base of 2222A.
Frequency N/A without earth, 1.27kHz with earth on 2222 emitter.
Spark gap reach max 7 mm. Nice bright CFL, smooth running though.

C: With Mitsubushi – does not start without earth ‘jump-start’ on base of 2222A.
After starting, only run for some 10 seconds when earth is removed.
Frequency N/A without earth, 2.11kHz with earth on 2222 emitter.
Spark gap reach max 4 mm. Light is weaker than either STM or Toshiba.

D: With Motorola – Does not run without earth on base of 2222A.
Terminate when earth removed. Most difficult to run circuit.
Frequency N/A without earth, 1.3kHz with earth on 2222 emitter.
Spark gap reach max 3 mm. Light is weaker than of above and ‘pulsing’
Gets hot quickly.

E: Control set: Exactly the same as A above. This set was from last few STM's I bought from another supplier about 4 months ago. All results were the same as in A.

NOTE: There were a number of other differences to, but these are the basic and most noticed ones.

The bottom line of this is: Even if it is the same part, they are definitely not the same value and operation. I checked a bit and saw there seems to be more than 17 different 2N3055 brand names plus then the unknown number of no-namers.

[Lidmotor]

The non standard transistor variable

On previous experiments we already confirmed that not all 2222 transistors are the same. Now to add to the confusion:

Since I had more than 40pc of 2N3055 and since I never read they might not be all the same; I only used those STM's. During my last shopping trip to Bangkok there was a sale of Toshiba 2N3055 and at another shop there were Hitachi and others. Today I build 5 sets, exactly the same, even with same 2222A – except each one is using different 2N3055 brand names. All tested sets were TO-3 packages – plain 2N3055 no postfixes. Surprise – but should have known – THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. I tested the 2222/3055 sets on the same set-up with same coil, wires, location, lights, etc.

A: With original STMocroelectronics – Start each time without need of earth or antenna on 2222 base.
Frequency 820 without earth, 1.64kHz with earth on 2222 emitter.
Spark gap reach max 4 mm. Runs cool.

B: With Toshiba – does not start without earth ‘jump-start’ on base of 2222A.
Frequency N/A without earth, 1.27kHz with earth on 2222 emitter.
Spark gap reach max 7 mm. Nice bright CFL, smooth running though.

C: With Mitsubushi – does not start without earth ‘jump-start’ on base of 2222A.
After starting, only run for some 10 seconds when earth is removed.
Frequency N/A without earth, 2.11kHz with earth on 2222 emitter.
Spark gap reach max 4 mm. Light is weaker than either STM or Toshiba.

D: With Motorola – Does not run without earth on base of 2222A.
Terminate when earth removed. Most difficult to run circuit.
Frequency N/A without earth, 1.3kHz with earth on 2222 emitter.
Spark gap reach max 3 mm. Light is weaker than of above and ‘pulsing’
Gets hot quickly.

E: Control set: Exactly the same as A above. This set was from last few STM's I bought from another supplier about 4 months ago. All results were the same as in A.

NOTE: There were a number of other differences to, but these are the basic and most noticed ones.

The bottom line of this is: Even if it is the same part, they are definitely not the same value and operation. I checked a bit and saw there seems to be more than 17 different 2N3055 brand names plus then the unknown number of no-namers.

Aromaz ---I just had a similar day with terrible results due to transistors not all being the same. Just when I thought that I had something nailed down I would try it with different parts and it would not work the same or not work at all.
I did discovered that you can "tickle" the base of the 2222 by using the energy radiated out of the ignition coil casing. I just wrapped a 1/4" band of aluminum foil around it and attached it with a clip lead to the transistor base. That provided the feed back for the oscillator. I still had to touch it to start it.

Lidmotor

[Aromaz]

...... "tickle" the base of the 2222 ....

@Lidmotor: What brand name of 2222 and 3055's are you using?