Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator Video

[nat1971a]

@DAVIDE

The insulated sphere in Tesla's own words is described as a pump. I dont think it should be thought of as antenna as most common antenna's that i can think of arent insulated - yet i am no expert. He mentions also in the railway patent which i dont have the number handy that the insulation prevents the dissipation of the energy that he was working with. So its important to have heavy insulation on the plate/sphere and the wire leading from the plate/sphere to the circuit. Am starting to wonder whether i should get some coaxil cable. I guess it is similar to an electret (but different shape) but it is being pumped by the oscillating circuit.

The information is there but scattered everywhere.

I have been thinking about it in terms of what is the most powerful radiator that i can think of. Well the sun comes to mind. And what shape is the sun? hmm a sphere. Logic would also then kick in and presume that if it is a radiator then it must be an absorber as well. Just as oliver lodge describes it as being a powerful radiator and absorber.

Whats also interesting is that Tesla mentions that after 1hour 48 minutes there is a powerful discharge. And whats that about?....I havent let my system run that long yet...

i will put a video together will my understanding of what Tesla was trying to tell us

[DavidE]

"Tesla's New Discovery""Exactly as mechanics and engineers have taken it for granted that the pliability of the spring remains the same, no matter how it be placed or used, so electricians and physicists have assumed that the electrostatic capacity of a conducting body, say of a metallic sphere, which is frequently used in experiments, remains a fixed and unalterable quantity, and many scientific results of the greatest importance are dependent on this assumption. Now, I have discovered that this capacity is not fixed and unalterable at all. On the contrary, it is susceptible to great changes, so that under certain conditions it may amount to many times its theoretical value, or may eventually be smaller. Inasmuch as every electrical conductor, besides possessing an inductance, has also a certain amount of capacity, owing to the variations of the latter, the inductance, too, is seemingly modified by the same causes that tend to modify the capacity. These facts I discovered some time before I gave a technical description of my system of energy transmission and telegraphy without wires, which, I believe, became first known through my Belgian and British patents."

"In this system, I then explained, that, in estimating the wave-length of the electrical vibration in the transmitting and receiving circuits, due regard must be had to the velocity with which the vibration is propagated through each of the circuits, this velocity being given by the product of the wave-length and the number of vibrations per second. The rate of vibration being, however, as before stated, dependent on the capacity and inductance in each case, I obtained discordant values."

"Continuing the investigation of this astonishing phenomenon I observed that the capacity varied with the elevation of the conducting surface above the ground and I soon ascertained the law of this variation. The capacity increased as the conducting surface was elevated, in open space, from one-half to three-quarters of 1 percent per foot of elevation. In buildings, however, or near large structures, this increase often amounted to 50 percent per foot of elevation, and this alone will show to what extent many of the scientific experiments recorded in technical literature are erroneous. In determining the length of the coils or conductors such as I employ in my system of wireless telegraphy, for instance, the rule which I have given is, in view of the above, important to observe."

"Far more interesting, however, for men of science is the fact I observed later, that the capacity undergoes an annual variation with a maximum in summer, and a minimum in winter. In Colorado, where I continued with improved methods of investigations begun in New York, and where I found the rate of increase slightly greater, I furthermore observed that there was a diurnal variation with a maximum during the night. Further, I found that sunlight causes a slight increase in capacity. The moon also produces an effect, but I do not attribute it to its light."

"The importance of these observations will be better appreciated when it is stated that owing to these changes of a quantity supposed to be constant an electrical circuit does not vibrate at a uniform rate, but its rate is modified in accordance with the modifications of the capacity. Thus a circuit vibrates a little slower at an elevation than when at a lower level. An oscillating system, as used in telegraphy without wires, vibrates a little quicker when the ship gets into the harbor than when on open sea. Such a circuit oscillates quicker in the winter than in the summer, though it be at the same temperature, and a trifle quicker at night than in daytime, particularly if the sun is shining."

"Taking together the results of my investigations I find that this variation of the capacity and consequently of the vibration period is evidently dependent, first, on the absolute height above sea level, though in a smaller degree; second, on the relative height of the conducting surface or capacity with respect to the bodies surrounding it; third, on the distance of the earth from the sun, and fourth, on the relative change of the circuit with respect to the sun, caused by the diurnal rotation of the earth. These facts may be of particular interest to meteorologists and astronomers, inasmuch as practical methods of inquiry may result from these observations, which may be useful in their respective fields. It is probable that we shall perfect instruments for indicating the altitude of a place by means of a circuit, properly constructed and arranged, and I have thought of a number of other uses to which this principle may be put."

"It was in the course of investigations of this kind in Colorado that I first noted certain variations in electrical systems arranged in peculiar ways. These variations I first discovered by calculating over the results I had previously noted, and it was only subsequently that I actually perceived them. It will thus be clear that some who have ventured to attribute the phenomena I have observed to ordinary atmospheric disturbances have made a hasty conclusion."

[DavidE]

The electrical conductivity of these materials varies gradually with the degree of solidification, and when the materials get moderately hard the conductivity becomes practically nil. The author let solidify a mixture of these materials in a strong electric field applied through all the time in which the solidification went on.The electret shows so great an intensity of electrization that the electric force exerted in front of the surface of the electret may attain the greatest sustainable value in the atmosphere.The permanency of these charges is so good that we cannot detect any sensible decay after many years. We shall call these surface charges of the electret the free charges due to its proper electrization.





1 Communicated by the Author.
2 The term "Electrization" is used after Heaviside to signify the internal electrical change of a material, which is different from superficial electrification.
3 Mototaro Eguchi, Phys.-Math. Soc. Japan, ser. 3, vol. ii. no.7(1920).
4 Oliver Heaviside, ' Electrical Papers,' vol, i. # xii.
5 Mototaro Eguchi, Phys.-Math. Soc. Japan, ser. 3, vol.i. nos. 10-11 (1919).

[Bodkins]

cheers

[nat1971a]

should be able to get the SCR from any electronics store

[carmine]

SCR thyristor or silicon controlled rectifier

[Bodkins]

@bodkins

I like this idea!

Been trying to get this across to everyone by getting the earth battery link up earlyer in the thread. All i have been doing with the insulted metal is the same thing. i think we can use multiy earth battery connection,With the insulted plates too. But watch out for shorting the earth battery,it will not work if you do.
one connection to primary battery and one to charging keeps them apart.Like a sphere to the middle of two bulbs on the secordary coil will not be connected to the earth on the negative of the primary coil.
Also a copper wire around the bulb with diodes on can put energy in a cap better with a ground connect (not tryed insulted metal somewhere yet).
Nat what is a SCR real name and where do i get one?
My sphere have not arrived YET
The futures Bright, Very Bright

[nat1971a]

@bodkins

I like this idea!

[Bodkins]

John g try primary- to earth, then secordary- to insulted metal and negative secondary coil connected
you will need to tune its a bit!!!!!!!!for best results Ampdraw vs Light!!!
@Lidmotor the copper around bulb thing works better with a ground to the postive of the cap!!!
Will post video and a drawing of all my setup later, I think we can get OU on this!!!!
DavidE thank you for all your posts they have made a big difference.
What am i talking about everypost makes a difference so stop taking the credit DavidE

From Arron(thank You)
This is half way down the first Page!!!!!!!!

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2209-earth-battery-sg.html

Unfortunately, most people haven't paid much attention to these details.

In my diagram:



I show something else.

The zinc rod from the SG's ground is going to earth. That is a real GROUND. The Earth may or may not be used as an electron source. You can get a POSITIVE radiant potential (voltage potential) from the Earth and this has nothing to do with electrons.

My diagram shows Bedini's ground as she has shown in front of everyone for years but hardly anyone noticed but a few. The other copper rod is what Kevin had on his setup in addition to the goofy magnet setup when getting way over 1.0 COP. Thing is, Kevin didn't even have the regular ground rod from the neg on the system...just the rod with diode to the + on the charge battery to absorb radiant potential from the earth.

This diagram is putting BOTH of them together. It will be obvious to anyone that has experimented with Earth Battery setups that looking at my diagram, both rods together obviously form a basic earth battery or a real potential difference at both rods...about 2-4 volts can be easily expected almost anywhere at minimum. You have to poke around a bit to get above 2 volts but you can find it.

The battery, better if large plates or of other construction like Bedini shows on his site, intercepts and soaks up earth currents and entrains the earth currents there.

What can be expected out of doing this? Everyone has to do their own experiments but what Kevin and I have found is that the charging effect in the output battery increases.

You can see where the diode leaves the copper rod and goes to the + on the charging batt...there are other places you can put it but you have to explore that on your own.

Just see the SG for what it is...it is a gas valve and all concepts of gas pressures apply. What do coils do and how are they pumping this gas and how do you get low and high pressures and putting that together with what is sitting on that diode on the copper rod, well some things should reveal themselves.

i have just order this
Lindsay: Lead-Acid Storage Batteries
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[byjoveoldchap]

"The Boy Electrician"

John G
great testing, would never have thought there were so many options with the connections!

"The Boy Electrician" http://rawfire.torche.com/~opcom/tbe...lectrician.pdf

Great find Captain!

I love the simple electric capacitor and especially the electric rectifier idea using baking soda
and of course his cunning idea to use a home-made High Voltage coil connected to a steel dustbin to keep dogs and animals away... OUCH !

[theremart]

RE: Boy Electrician..

Thanks Captain!

I saw that book on Peter's video, looks like some kids got to know much more about electricity than we did!

Mart

Welcome to the Camden web site! . They do some great reprint books, and some on making steam engines, that may help towards the friction heater thread.

Regards to all

John

"The Boy Electrician" http://rawfire.torche.com/~opcom/tbe...lectrician.pdf

[Lidmotor]

Back end charging

Welcome to the Camden web site! . They do some great reprint books, and some on making steam engines, that may help towards the friction heater thread.

Regards to all

John

Thanks John for the great testing and results posting. We all need to do more precise results tracking like you did to really see what is happening here. What you found out is what I have discovered also-- To get the big light --you need the big amps. So what I have settled for is a compromise---enough light with low amps. This is an emergency CFL light in Imhotep's original design and I have choosen to follow that concept. The earth ground tests that you did backs up what Bodkins, Nat and I have found out --- it helps. To get the back end charging hookup refer to Imhotep's original circuit found at the beginning of the thread. Basically a diode is placed on the negative of the primary coil and the + of the charge battery. It lets a high voltage spike BEMF shoot into a battery or capacitor everytime the coil collaspes. Check it with a volt meter on the charging battery or cap. You should see the voltage rise if it is happening. Fast voltage rise---good charging . Slow or no voltage rise---bad charging.

Lidmotor

[john_g]

Welcome to the Camden web site! . They do some great reprint books, and some on making steam engines, that may help towards the friction heater thread.

Regards to all

John

[Lidmotor]

Tesla Experiment Video

Go to the 20 minute mark to see the longitudinal electric tests...

longitudinal electricity - Google Video

Thanks DavidE for the link to that video about longitudinal electricity. Very interesting to see someone else (long ago) doing the same kind of experiments
that we are doing. That segment where they are charging up a capacitor off the light bulb made me rethink why I am getting the results I am. This is not simple induction. It is radiant energy produced by high voltage impulse current. Logitudinal waves not sinusoid types. This explains alot. Thanks
Dude, Glad to see you back. Get a fan in the room if you are afraid of the ozone and start working on this again. Get another cat. Name him "Tesla".

Nat and Bodkins, I stopped getting shocks sometime ago. I was getting the HV stray off of the Bedini Fan circuit and I don't get them off my Lunch Box and Mini Box 555 timer circuit. Now that I have the antenna and ground contained in the box. I can touch things and not get shocked.

Cheers,

Lidmotor