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  • Joit
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    Hi,

    Lol, how did you blow the Transistor, did you run your Circuit with 110V?
    At the Base are usual about 0,2-1,2 Volt.
    The Transistor can handle about 3 V and 7 Amps.
    But my Fan did first work after a Week too, first Time i did trow it for a Week beside, too
    and this one was even with single Wire wound, so dont worry. lol.
    Anyhow its not that simple for a Beginner, as it seems, when you figured it out once.

    Ok i try it again.
    Each Coil has 1 Wire with 2 Ends.
    And as Imhotep says at his Video,
    each Coil has a inner Side Start of Wire and one outside from the Coil.
    Therfor, the 2 Ends from one Wire from a Coil becomes a '-' and '+' End (of Wire).
    When you got a bifilar wounded Coil, you twist the 2 Wires outside together, and got one +.
    Same with the 2 Wires, what end at the Core from one Coil.

    Now you have one Coil with 2 twisted Ends, where the one outside is the Plus,
    and the other End, what is inside is marked as Minus.

    Do that with all your 4 Coils around the Stator.
    Now you got 4 Coils with a + and -.

    Now twist 2 + Wires from 2 Coils, what are close together, lets say, the one at 12 AM and at 3 AM.
    Same with the inner End, the '-' from this 2 Coils.
    Twist them together and you got now one Plus and one Minus from 2 Coils.

    And still 2 Coils left.
    Do the same with the coils at 6AM and 9AM.

    At last, there should be 2 Plus from 4 Coils, and 2 Minus.
    Plus allways start outside the Coil, Minus inside.
    Total there are now 4 Wires.
    The Plus from the Coils at 12AM and 3AM is connected to "+"Batterie.
    The Minus from this Coils go to the Collector/Case(at a 2N3055).

    Then the Plus from the Coils at 6AM and 9AM is connected to Emitter and "-" Batterie.
    and the Minus from this Coils to Base/Potentiometer.

    Turn your Pot a bit higher at first, that it doesnt blow your Transistor again.
    The Fan should start some squezing, when you turn it with your Finger.
    Then turn the Pot some lower, till the Fan can run.

    You can still measure your Coils between "+"Batterie and Collector or "-"Batterie/Emitter and Pot/Base, they should have about same Ohm usual around 60Ohms.
    I got a different at some of my Motors from 15Ohms, seems that is, what they can close handle,
    or one from this Coil will go hot, if the difference is to big.

    And well, not sure, if your Transistor is blowed, sometimes it only looks like.
    Mine been strong, since what i did all to them
    Last edited by Joit; 02-01-2009, 01:26 AM.

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  • Bodkins
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    Originally posted by splay View Post
    I agree, the diagram does show a connection to the Collector, however, following the videos step by step this connection does not exist.

    I did set up the connection after studying the diagram and had the same locked position, I changed the the wires around from the fan, got a few glows from the neon during my alternate configurations and finally blew the diode from the collector.

    Back to the drawing board for me Im afraid.

    Where I get a little lost ( following the videos ) is, after the SSG is set up the next shot is spinning the fan, the battery wiring would be very helpful there as it is the final step and the one that has thrown me.

    Apologies if this is simple for everyone else but attempting it as a complete beginner I have fallen into a few holes, just sharing my experiences.

    There are no failures only lessons and my first attempt has shown me how it does not work and got me into thinking and understanding it in more depth.
    The path to success
    give us some pictures of your coil my friend help is here we just need understanding of your setup

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  • splay
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    I agree, the diagram does show a connection to the Collector, however, following the videos step by step this connection does not exist.

    I did set up the connection after studying the diagram and had the same locked position, I changed the the wires around from the fan, got a few glows from the neon during my alternate configurations and finally blew the diode from the collector.

    Back to the drawing board for me Im afraid.

    Where I get a little lost ( following the videos ) is, after the SSG is set up the next shot is spinning the fan, the battery wiring would be very helpful there as it is the final step and the one that has thrown me.

    Apologies if this is simple for everyone else but attempting it as a complete beginner I have fallen into a few holes, just sharing my experiences.

    There are no failures only lessons and my first attempt has shown me how it does not work and got me into thinking and understanding it in more depth.
    The path to success

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  • Bodkins
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    Originally posted by ahausurf View Post

    ok this are the pictures from my one, i put it on a litle box, and cut the wings off the fan, so i have get i volt up.
    hehehe whats that mean negative resistor,
    uff i get lost, litle by litle, thanks any ways, i have check it out, i did not realy undestund so much
    any ways, mine it is giving to me about 4.30 volts, you guys say that you can use many fanes to get up on power, i have saw other guys on you toe how take about 130 volts on inline whells and home made coils.
    my question is . how we can o how many volts we need to power our house, which way, it will be bether, i have no idea about electronics but i so interesting on learn all about for this good cause.
    sorry for my englis and greting from spain


    start reading this loads of info

    All@everone read this it will help setting the fan up too!!!!
    also dont forget the earth battery stuff gentlmen this will help the charging noend

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  • sigzidfit
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    According to Imhotep's diagram: The negative - on the black goes to collector on transistor AND anode on diode. The Negative - on red goes to variable resistor.

    Peace
    PJ

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  • splay
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    Sorry Im a bit confused.

    One of the fan negatives attaches to the emitter from what I understand. You say it attaches to the Collector?

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  • sigzidfit
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    splay,

    Imhotep's video indicates that he labels the inside wires as the negative - and the outside wires as positive +. I think. Check for yourself, it's in his first video at his personal web page. Also the FAQ there is quite helpful.

    Imhotep's Laboratory | Renewable Energy

    Peace
    PJ

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  • splay
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    Originally posted by Joit View Post
    The other Side of this Wire to the Collector.
    .
    Joit Hi,

    Thanks for your help.

    You say, connect one negative from the fan to the collector?

    I havent seen that on Imhotep's video.
    I see him connect one negative to the Emitter and the other negative to the source battery.

    Am I wrong there?

    Thanks

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  • Joit
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    Hi,
    Measure, wich both Wires have have outlet,
    then try to other too, if they have outlet too.
    When both are ok, you found your 2 Coils.

    Now connect one Wire from this Pair from one Coil to Plus at Batterie.
    The other Side of this Wire to the Collector.
    Now you got one Coil done,


    Now connect one Wire from the second Pair, wich left now, to Minus from Batterie.
    The last Wire connect to the Potentiometer/Resistance, what goes at the Base from your Transistor.
    Spin it up, when it dont works, switch Either the Wire at C and Plus,
    or switch the Wires between Minus and Base/potentiometer.

    When it locks at a Position, means, you only need to switch one Pair of a Coil.
    Just make sure, that you have the Wires right connected to the Transistor.

    When the Pins are at the lower Side of the Transistor, when you look at it, then should be the right Pin Base, left Pin Emitter, Case is Collector.
    Last edited by Joit; 01-31-2009, 04:02 PM.

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  • redeagle
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    Originally posted by splay View Post
    Hi guys,

    I think my coils are mixed up some how.

    I got the post in and soldered one of the wires to and then the remaining wire back on to its original post.

    Trying to establish which two are positive and which negative I attached the battery to one I marked positive and one I marked negative, nothing happened, however, if I join the other two wires then I get the fan moving into a locked position showing power.

    The same happens if I join any two wires together and put the remaining on the battery.

    Does this sound right?

    My SSG circuit seems sounds I have gone over and over Imhoteps video and it looks perfect. But when I hook it up to my fan I get that locking of the fan showing power but it will not engage if I spin it.

    I really really appreciate the help.
    Sounds like your transistor is bad or you have a diode backwards. disconnect you fan all together from your circuit and check the coils with a continuity tester. Keep one lead on the same post and check all of the others. Only the other end of the coil should reveal continuity. also if you disconnect your transistor there should be infinite ohms from the collector to the emitter.

    Matt

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  • splay
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    Coils

    Hi guys,

    I think my coils are mixed up some how.

    I got the post in and soldered one of the wires to and then the remaining wire back on to its original post.

    Trying to establish which two are positive and which negative I attached the battery to one I marked positive and one I marked negative, nothing happened, however, if I join the other two wires then I get the fan moving into a locked position showing power.

    The same happens if I join any two wires together and put the remaining on the battery.

    Does this sound right?

    My SSG circuit seems sounds I have gone over and over Imhoteps video and it looks perfect. But when I hook it up to my fan I get that locking of the fan showing power but it will not engage if I spin it.

    I really really appreciate the help.

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  • Joit
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    Originally posted by ANTIQUER View Post
    Hi Bodkins;

    Here's a video that's also exciting!(it's in the gallery section)

    Gamma Manager

    Al
    Hi,
    The last wht i did hear from the EBM was, that they discarded it,
    and claim, it dont makes OU.
    That was developed by a Hungarian Comapny, what did do a 19 Years research.
    Whatever is true..

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  • ANTIQUER
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    Ebm=ou

    Hi Bodkins;

    Here's a video that's also exciting!(it's in the gallery section)

    Gamma Manager

    Al

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  • el-tigre
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    Hi John,

    I have successfully ran an old 5.25 floppy disk converted to a bedini fan motor setup. the one I have has 30 coils. I discontinued the test as it was drawing about twice the current of the 4 pole fan motor rig. I was not too careful tracing the coils so I likely had a few wired badly however it stll ran respectably.

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  • ahausurf
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