An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

Need a like button Spacecase0. Will have to compute this for a while but those are good ideas for sure.

Also refer back to the people at Spacewarp Dynamics which you linked me up with some time ago, and this page specficially on "The Science Behind Bruce Gernon’s Flight."
spacewarp

If you're a follower of this thread then please take a look at the work these people have been involved with doing; they have been at it for quite a while. I find the space drive antenna system very interesting since it so closely matches descriptions of hieroglyphic like writing reported on other supposed alien space craft.
spacewarp

spacewarp | Space Warp 3D fractal design
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=ovDV711BszM[/VIDEO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=ovDV711BszM

These people are working on engineering space using warp field metrics. A concept I found hard to understand for quite a while, but essentially this is what Harold E. Puthoff is writing about in his papers on Spacetime Metric's. Frankly metrics as applied to the so-called engineering of spacetime is a baffeling and unhelpful choice of terminology, even if it it is a somewhat accurate statement. The ARV is also engineering the vacuum of space time with it's analog like system, whereas these people are working a solid state version: Transistor Radios as compared to Vacuum Tube Radios don't seem to resemble each other very much but they are both radios, and so now the idea here is to begin to make connections between these two forms; the analog version of metric engineering spacetime, and the solid state version of metric engineering spacetime.

Typically an analog system is much easier to comprehend and thus is helpful in understanding the solid state version. Although the folks at Spacewarp Dynamics are obviously on the right track, they have little resources and no real visible support. It's not like Lockheed has beaten a pathway to the front door and this is itself telling. Now why do you suppose that would be? Remember these things?

https://dandare.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/isaacchadcaretcalifornia-droneswhat-is-going-on-part-1/

https://web.archive.org/web/20080409203504/http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/

Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metric) Engineering

https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2184

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1sUE_oUcAIMXLx.jpg

https://twitter.com/swarpdynamics

[spacecase0]

new idea

so I went back and re read the wilbert smith info while keeping in mind all I have learned in this thread.
the section that seems to most apply is the one on gravity control that starts at page 61 of this PDF

http://www.resonantfractals.org/Wilbert%20Smith/The-New-Science-&-TensorBeam.pdf

he was trying to make a spinning magnetic field to alter the time field, and altering the time field was how he planned on controlling gravity.
first he said that the only way a magnetic field will spin is to spin it at 90 degrees to the magnetic field lines (not possible to have it spin along the field lines)
to verify that the idea was correct he set up ceramic block magnets pointed up and down, and then put them in the outside edge of a disk and physically spun them. he said this worked. so he then want about trying to make a spinning magnetic field with electrical switching (as mechanical spinning fast enough is just not possible).
he was having issues with the fields combining and not actually making the required spinning field. (I have personally set up switched magnetic coils that would be arranged to make a spinning field, and it does not make the spin field, and he got the same not working result)

so looking at the layout of the ARV,
you have a giant electromagnet pointed up and down powered by the homo polar generator that also uses that magnetic field.
this sort of a self excited homo polar generator can make a magnetic field that is very very large. and by the steel ball that the crew and disk are housed in, it would have to be well past the magnetic saturation of the steel. so, very very large magnetic field.

and then you have electrical switching of high voltage into capacitors making a spinning field.
it occurred to me that the point of these capacitors might be to break up the magnetic field into slices and force it to spin.
you could get it to spin at any rate you wanted that way.

if this is the case, then the electrogravic effect of the expanded crystals in the capacitors would likely only be used for steering control and not as a main drive

and then I would then wonder if the "oxygen tanks" in the drawing were really large electromagnetic coils meant to recover energy that powers the system.

[Gambeir]

Sir
am asking around about replicating this

Experiments: Experiment 10

the resources available to the open source community are staggering !!

any other simple experiments which you would consider ? coatings are all the rage these days ,especially nano coatings .

you're one cool Dude !!

respectfully
Chet K

Edit
PS
if this post is a distraction to the present line of thought.
I will remove it

Thank you for the complement Ramset.

To answer you directly, I don't have any suggestions right now. I'll have to let the grey cells compute for a while. Sometimes they do things without telling me about it: My mind plays tricks on me.

However, despite my many failing, I won't be the only one wearing a dunce cap when the fat lady sings. I feel that Universe is preparing to place a giant dunce cap on heads of "officially approved deniers" Just bet sites like this one vanish overnight. Of course they will then say they never said any such thing.
Hutchison hoax - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

I do know there's a couple people roundabouts who have more advanced information. Hopefully information will begin leaking out more and more as we ourselves unravel the supposed fantasy illustration of Mr. McCandlish which, amazingly now, seems not so fantastical after all.

Now I haven't studied Tomions' work, but he held several patents and which are quite advanced and related. Mark Tomions story is seemingly typical and maddening as well having passed on suddenly and somewhat mysteriously. Where's there's smoke there's fire. Understanding here that Mark's death isn't automatically a result of black ops assassination, but probably is, however we must understand that we ourselves are biological beings monkeying with Universe: Caution and safety procedures. The forces of Universe work in the conceptual ideas underlying these machines.

Mark R. Tomion. Electrodynamic field generator

https://www.google.com/patents/US6404089

Mark Tomion -- Electrodynamic Field Generator
ZPEnergy.com - Mark Tomion (Stardrive device) has passed away in June


There's a lot in this machine which John Hutchison has experience with. It's probably wise to visit John's site. Remember this is the unknown for us peons. We have little to go on other than stories about what can happen.
Teleportation
Experiments
John Hutchison -- "The Hutchison Effect" -- Antigravity & disruption effects -- articles & movies

Alternatively, the pay offs in unraveling the puzzle are huge for us little people. One can only imagine the fun you could have cold casting metals. This is something the Russians supposedly have been capable of doing since the 80's. Just imagine what one could do with some plaster molds and a way to make metal flow without thermal energy. Home manufacturing never got any simpler (smile).

I don't think the system is so fearful of us people building ships and fleeing to Mars or wherever else so much as it is the idea that we won't need them any more. Home energy, home manufacturing, transmutation, and evidently teleportation are seemingly all involved in the principles underlying these machines, as well as what also appears to me to be some kind of time travel like quality.

Haven't had time to sink my teeth in here, but >Blink-Blink!>Ph.D. experimental nuclear physicist.

http://www.doctorkoontz.com/

http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Logs/index.htm

Log book example _ L00K...even if this is beyond you. Scroll through it. Notice the drawings and materials again repeatedly the same as elsewhere.

http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Logs/Log%20Book%2007.htm

John Hutchison Youtube home channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPHSIePj19EVjDx6BOeZwxQ

USA ARMY BATTERY REPLACEMENT UNIT
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by5rh0V5gV0[/VIDEO]

[spacecase0]

Sir
am asking around about replicating this

Experiments: Experiment 10

the resources available to the open source community are staggering !!

any other simple experiments which you would consider ? coatings are all the rage these days ,especially nano coatings .

you're one cool Dude !!

respectfully
Chet K

Edit
PS
if this post is a distraction to the present line of thought.
I will remove it

the spinning CD thing as part of a high voltage motor is something I have done before with other spinning disks (before CDs were out there),
and they sure spin,
I tried plastic disks and carbide grinding wheels
and used needle points and not spheres as electrodes,
never tried to put a magnetic field on it while it was spinning,
but can't imagine this taking very long to reproduce
my question is, what would reproducing it show us ?

[RAMSET]

Sir
am asking around about replicating this

Experiments: Experiment 10

the resources available to the open source community are staggering !!

any other simple experiments which you would consider ? coatings are all the rage these days ,especially nano coatings .

you're one cool Dude !!

respectfully
Chet K

Edit
PS
if this post is a distraction to the present line of thought.
I will remove it

[Gambeir]

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I know that from previous requests by other new members that their email authorizations were being directed in to their junk folders/spam/trash.

Check your folders carefully.

I also cannot contact you via private messages. The system is also reporting your PM system is full. You have to clear the old messages before I can contact you.

Many thanks for passing the info along.

[Gambeir]

This post is by way of courtesy from Spacecase0. His insight to critical parts of this long story have provided what I think is now a near complete understanding of the basic principles driving the ARV.

The Kowsky and Frost story is an important part in understanding the ARV. It may seem unrelated and a magical like story to some, and because it's aged and it's cloaked with a back-tracked story intending to make it appear a hoax, the story itself becomes the focus instead of what the experiment is telling us.

I did not see this but Spacecase0 did.

As Spacecase0 pointed out, the real secret to the ARV is in the so-called capacitors. These are piezo-electric capacitors (*I think anyways), but what the Kowsky Frost Experiment shows is a kind of special quality in specific crystals. We can trace the understanding of this discovery then to the specifics of the ARV's supposed capacitor construction. This quality is the permittivity of the crystal, and this permittivity is then linked via a Biefield Brown Vacuum Polarization effect that takes place by an applied RF wave.

Originally then, the discovery of super permittivity in some crystallines is covered over, and it's only later that once this is understood that the addition of piezo-electricity is piggybacked on the understanding in the creative form of the ARV.

It's my present thought that the disc creates a magnetic wave which is also a controllable wave. Energy is metered across the disc controlling the quantity of energy passing through it. This can create wave forms in the magnetic field which is created by the disc, and these waves are projected vertically as a magnetic waves, which is an electromagnetic wave and which is/can be a RF wave.

So again, what we have is another case of understanding being piggybacked upon by adding a piezo-electric quality to the Kowsky Frost discovery of super permittivity in a crystal, and then later by adding a RF producing magnetic wave plate above the piezo-electric generating capacitors. The magnetic wave being the productive part of the piezo-electric energy production unit because the capacitors incorporate reactive metals. Diamagnetic metals would assist the deformative process which generates the piezo-electric effect in the capacitors.

The whole contraption works upon vacuum polarization principles inducing a vibrational frequency in the piezo-electric capacitors which is controllable and tunable. It's also creating electrical energy for conversion via the piezo-electric capacitor plates and recycling the expended energy through a RF receiver.

This is my present best and most concise explanation for the ARV's operating system. Spacecase0 probably has a slightly different understanding and nothing is considered set in stone: None of us are hovering around on boards and until that happens everything is subject to revision.

[Gambeir]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSy2pzcfCySk5ARozuB3erw

[Gambeir]

John Iwaszko demonstrates power transmitted wirelessly by electromagnetic waves in "free space" from a Tesla Coil Transmitter. Skip to about the 2:20 mark for a quick demo on this. At one point power is transmitted from the Telsa to the rim of the saucer. The primary idea here is to explain the reason high power lines are sources for UFO sightings.

"Antigavity" Method 15b Pt b of 15 -Worlds's 1st Free Flight of A Tesla Coil powered Flying Saucer!
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=ee4Ab3w2hl8[/VIDEO]

[Gambeir]

keeping in mind the new data and all the history,
I am now thinking that this craft is an electric gravity effect like TT brown found, it uses a super high dielectric constant insulator, they are the expanded crystals. (might be able to make them with a spark gap transmitter, or at least that seems to be the lowest cost way to test)
the metals in the capacitor are ones that use the Kondo effect (likely just to reduce total weight of the system),
the high voltage system is likely most of the center core of the device, I am thinking something like an upside down vandergraph generator that uses mercury vapor at the belt, the end contact points are clearly visible at the lower section of the central core, and is controlled where the electricity hits with something like a TV picture tube uses to direct where the picture goes.
the control system switches on and off each section as the contact beam rotates from one contact to another (for the needed pulsing to make the electrogravic effect work) and to what degree each plate gets turned on for steering control (outdating the previous system that used 3 spheres under the craft that were capacitors that could be physically angled for steering control ).
the 2 oppositely rotated switching of the capacitors is to keep the entire thing from rotating after a while of running while allowing you the fancy steering system.
the center disk and coil are a self excited homopolar generator, this is used to generate a very large magnetic field (reaching near infinite), could be used to change how the crystals work, or more than likely (or additionally) is used to give the ship magnetic shielding for when you are going high speeds in space, this shielding will create a large amount of ions hitting the top of that central core, and likely that is where it gets its extra energy to recharge.
the angled nature of the craft seems to me to be focusing the energy created by the capacitors to the main section of the craft, when tesla played with this sort of energy (pretty sure it is the same energy), it would reflect off shiny surfaces (regardless of what they were made of)
did I miss anything, or does that seem about right ?

Don't let my own thoughts obscure your ideas for the same reason I wouldn't suggest building a Wright Flyer when all I was really interested in was figuring out the best and cheapest way to make a light aircraft, but at this point I are still a bit unsure what are the wings and where are they? I'm still asking myself what is the engine and what kind of fuel is this plane taking? Any outside ideas may be improvements or alternatives once we do get the gist of aircraft positively nailed down.

*I revised this part of the post
However, despite these issues, here's a thumbnail sketch of my present thoughts. Right now I think that the disc functions as a pump in one respect, acting upon the capacitors, which then produce power feed back into a microwave generator which powers the magnetic field producing disc, and which results in an electromechanical pumping on the capacitors. The expended disc energy is collected via the outer ring antenna and recycled. The atmosphere is the primary re-charging station. Additional re-charging available through other sources such as high power lines. I think that the capacitors and the disc are the primary power system and that the capacitors act as the energy storage system.

* I removed my previous notes about a potential nuclear power source because it was an illogical thoughtless oversight. The capacitor banks are huge and should themselves be capable of acting as the sole sources of energy storage.

I do think the capacitors are providing the primary motive force. I think the disc is primarily or entirely there to operate as an electromechanical pump which drives the capacitor fluxing, which produces energy and may assist in motive force. I could of course be wrong and maybe there's some mathematically inclined persons who would crunch some numbers and see if the disc could be driven to levels capable of producing an magnetic field sufficient to levitate the machine away from the earths magnetic field.

I'm researching right now. However in understanding something it's often best to try to begin with the beginning and I've found a very useful dissertation. This has some specifics on manufacturing piezoelectric specimens for testing. It explains the drawbacks of earlier materials and the reason why these newer materials are superior. This is a 139 page dissertation but interesting and as easy to read as these forms of scientific papers come. I think it's about as clear and good as it gets. lead zirconate titanate (PZT) seems to have been the dominate form of piezoelectric transducing material for a long time while mounting what appears to be a continual search for a Holy Grail. Much has happened since this publication but this is good material to begin with.

Thesis and Dissertation Collection. 1958.
An investigation of lead zirconate titante. Rawlins, Robert D. Monterey, California: U.S. Naval Postgraduate School.

https://calhoun.nps.edu/bitstream/handle/10945/14335/investigationofl00rawl.pdf?sequence=1

Theses and Dissertations. Thesis and Dissertation Collection. 1958. An investigation of lead zirconate titante. Rawlins, Robert D. Monterey, California: U.S. Naval Postgraduate School.

*Additionally you will notice that in discussing manufacturing techniques there is a reference to polarity where a magnetic field is applied to induce the arrangement of the crystalline pattern to a desired plane. At least that's what I got by brushing through this. Will have to review it but it makes a lot of sense and fits my own thinking here.

[spacecase0]

keeping in mind the new data and all the history,
I am now thinking that this craft is an electric gravity effect like TT brown found, it uses a super high dielectric constant insulator, they are the expanded crystals. (might be able to make them with a spark gap transmitter, or at least that seems to be the lowest cost way to test)
the metals in the capacitor are ones that use the Kondo effect (likely just to reduce total weight of the system),
the high voltage system is likely most of the center core of the device, I am thinking something like an upside down vandergraph generator that uses mercury vapor at the belt, the end contact points are clearly visible at the lower section of the central core, and is controlled where the electricity hits with something like a TV picture tube uses to direct where the picture goes.
the control system switches on and off each section as the contact beam rotates from one contact to another (for the needed pulsing to make the electrogravic effect work) and to what degree each plate gets turned on for steering control (outdating the previous system that used 3 spheres under the craft that were capacitors that could be physically angled for steering control ).
the 2 oppositely rotated switching of the capacitors is to keep the entire thing from rotating after a while of running while allowing you the fancy steering system.
the center disk and coil are a self excited homopolar generator, this is used to generate a very large magnetic field (reaching near infinite), could be used to change how the crystals work, or more than likely (or additionally) is used to give the ship magnetic shielding for when you are going high speeds in space, this shielding will create a large amount of ions hitting the top of that central core, and likely that is where it gets its extra energy to recharge.
the angled nature of the craft seems to me to be focusing the energy created by the capacitors to the main section of the craft, when tesla played with this sort of energy (pretty sure it is the same energy), it would reflect off shiny surfaces (regardless of what they were made of)
did I miss anything, or does that seem about right ?

[Gambeir]

Now I don't know for sure whether or not my psychedelic art work honestly means anything or not, but as a primitive form of spectrum analysis it does seem to be revealing.

Xavier Borg writes; "The main radiation one could expect with such a setup is the so called cyclotron radiation."

"Charges flying in circles are continually accelerating, with a centripedal acceleration towards the field lines they are spiraling around. This means they are radiating pure sine-wave electric fields perpendicular to the magnetic filed lines." Experiments: Experiment 10

Additionally and paraphrased from page 7; "Propagation and Dissipation of Ion Cyclotron Waves in the Auroral Ionosphere." http://w3.pppl.gov/~jrj/ICW.pdf

Wave absorption is a function of frequency and angle between the wave vector and magnetic field of the wave. This results in a defined structure in the absorption coefficients with a frequency spacing. Absorption structures increase in frequency with increasing angle suggesting coupling to a compression wave. http://w3.pppl.gov/~jrj/ICW.pdf

Additionally, as another thought towards the workings of the ARV, we know that applying a magnet to certain materials aligns their crystalline structures; in the ARV this magnetic field would be perpendicular to the capacitors. One would imagine then that this magnetic field might have a substantial effect on these capacitors resultant impulses.

[Gambeir]

Enlarged and messed around with some color manipulation to see if I could eliminate what might otherwise be painted designs. Here's a UFO Report from a Kook who lives just a few miles away. I saw no fins but my total time of observation was less than 5 seconds. I'm sure it's the same vehicle the other observers saw or at least one very similar. I saw it in July 2017, and he saw it on September 4, 2016. It has also been described as bat like and if you look closely at the thing it has what seems like scalloped sections like a bats wing on the back end. I think the wings and scallops are optical effects caused by energy waves distorting the airwaves.

This image has been called Dorito's. I think this photo was taken in South America (unsure) but I do think this is the same type of vehicle.
Best still image so far.
Updated Image is an Arrowhead-shaped UFO from Glascow, Scottland, 2002.
Kansas woman says UFO blocked out moon and stars (Audio) | Openminds.tv
(Credit: ufocasebook.com)


Underside illustrations of an arrowhead-shaped UFO from a 1989 sighting in Cooper City, FL. (Credit: UFOevidence.org)

Washington witness describes UFO with fins | Openminds.tv


Arrowhead-shaped UFO from Glascow, Scottland, 2002. (Credit: ufocasebook.com)


Arrowhead-shaped UFO from Glascow, Scottland, 2002. (Credit: ufocasebook.com)

[Gambeir]

So I just check back in and where's the image I posted of the Black Triangle?

I repeat the process doing another reverse image search, copy the link once more, then go back to the post and suddenly it's magically re-appeared?

If you don't see the image of the black triangle then copy and paste this link to another window.

http://rense.com/general54/Triangle_3.jpg

http://marcianitosverdes.haaan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/windowslivewriterlosmarcianitosverdescomerndoritos-13177dorito3.jpg

[spacecase0]

I must have missed that crystal thing the first time around,
it looks pretty easy to test,
that is if I had a really high power low frequency radio amplifier, at least it is in the frequency range of the high power somewhat low priced transistors
I just tried 20 or so watts with magnetic coils around a chunk of quarts and it did nothing (I literally had all the hardware already setup for something else, so I thought I would try it)
guess it is time to build an amplifier,
if I ever get some expanded crystals, then I will try them in the capacitors of an electrogravic setup.

this all also makes sense of leaked info talking about crystals that would loose weight when they put electricity into them, but they could not reproduce the crystals even though they knew what elements they were made out of