An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[nutzNvoltz]

the Searl effect generator used magnets, I am still not clear on how it worked or all of what it was suppose to do, my attempts to reproduce it got me no results, but then I also did not have magnets with the tiny poles all around the outside like his did.

my spinning devices with electrostatic voltages on them started with a modified whimhurst machine. I set it up with the same sort of system they use, but set it up with one disk one polarity and the other disk the opposite polarity.
ended up playing with electrostatic motors with only one polarity.
the oppositely spinning seemed to have the most magnetic fields.
it would erase my compasses, change the polarity on them, magnetize bits of steel and things like that.
it also messed with time plus or minus 2 seconds at most, it reversed polarity about every 1.5 seconds, just when it was building up a large field it would flip polarity, so it would seem that time was lined to how much it messed with the clocks (mechanical and digital), I tried forcing the voltage to stay on one polarity, and it flipped anyway, just stayed with a 150KV bias that I had imposed, and it did some other odd things as well.
it is why I think the ARV is likely a real thing, so much of it makes sense with other things I have seen
it would seem that 2 counter rotating fields with the same polarity would have been the next thing to try.

Wow, fascinating stuff spacecase! I've been researching Searl, TT Brown, Otis T Carr, etc. devices since the early 80's. Done some experiments with Searl and Brown devices with not much success. I remember watching a program on tv way back then about UFO abductees. There was an interview with a guy who said the aliens told him their craft used two large counter rotating discs charged with high voltage for propulsion.

[spacecase0]

Dead Thread?

likely not.
talking about it is good, and we can learn things that way.
but after all the talk you have to build things and check your logic.
likely need to wait months to years for updates
building hardware to test things is not a fast thing.
would love to see someone with more talent, time, and funding make the project go faster, but that seems unlikely based on comments so far.

[spacecase0]

Could you elaborate on your experiments with spinning devices with electrostatic voltages on them? Any similarities with the Searl effect generator?

the Searl effect generator used magnets, I am still not clear on how it worked or all of what it was suppose to do, my attempts to reproduce it got me no results, but then I also did not have magnets with the tiny poles all around the outside like his did.

my spinning devices with electrostatic voltages on them started with a modified whimhurst machine. I set it up with the same sort of system they use, but set it up with one disk one polarity and the other disk the opposite polarity.
ended up playing with electrostatic motors with only one polarity.
the oppositely spinning seemed to have the most magnetic fields.
it would erase my compasses, change the polarity on them, magnetize bits of steel and things like that.
it also messed with time plus or minus 2 seconds at most, it reversed polarity about every 1.5 seconds, just when it was building up a large field it would flip polarity, so it would seem that time was lined to how much it messed with the clocks (mechanical and digital), I tried forcing the voltage to stay on one polarity, and it flipped anyway, just stayed with a 150KV bias that I had imposed, and it did some other odd things as well.
it is why I think the ARV is likely a real thing, so much of it makes sense with other things I have seen
it would seem that 2 counter rotating fields with the same polarity would have been the next thing to try.

[nutzNvoltz]

one way to make a magnetic field without a current flowing thru a conductor is to set up a rotating electrostatic field.
the spinning devices I have set up with electrostatic voltage on them make a huge magnetic field. not sure if you can do it by electrical switching like is depicted in the ARV capacitors, but will not be to hard to test that. I just have not got to building it yet.

Could you elaborate on your experiments with spinning devices with electrostatic voltages on them? Any similarities with the Searl effect generator?

[nutzNvoltz]

Dead Thread?

[Gambeir]

@Gambier "They [abductees] have described a silvery grey material flowing in a clear tube in twisting counter rotating spirals."

Just thinking out loud here.

Why a "clear tube"?

Indeed, why a clear tube? It almost makes no sense on the surface, so it has to have a purpose.

Chirality[/U]
"Quartz crystals are chiral..." Chirality would have an effect, or possibly be the enabler, of the "counter rotating spirals" of the material in a single tube.

THX1138, in reviewing and earlier post, the only thing which presently does make sense is your thought that the central columns' clear tube is a quartz tube. Right now I'm totally convinced you are correct here.

"In 1846 Michael Faraday discovered that optical activity could be induced in an otherwise inactive sample by a magnetic field. He observed optical rotation in a rod of lead borate glass placed between the poles of an electromagnet with holes bored through the pole pieces to enable a linearly polarized light beam to pass through. This effect is quite general: a Faraday rotation is found when linearly polarized light is transmitted through any crystal or fluid in the direction of a magnetic field, the sense of rotation being reversed on reversing the direction of either the light beam or the magnetic field."
An Introduction to Chirality at the Nanoscale

https://application.wiley-vch.de/books/sample/352732013X_c01.pdf

"In chemistry, a racemic mixture, or racemate /reɪˈsimeɪt/, is one that has equal amounts of left- and right-handed enantiomers of a chiral molecule." - "A sample with only a single enantiomer is an enantiomerically pure, enantiopure or homochiral compound."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racemic_mixture

"Racemic solution crystallized into equal amounts of crystals containing exclusively one or other of the mirror-image molecules is a process known as spontaneous resolution." - "Such mixtures of crystals are called conglomerates, as distinct from racemic compounds where each crystal contains equal amounts of the mirror-image molecules."

https://application.wiley-vch.de/books/sample/352732013X_c01.pdf

So enantiopure or homochiral quartz compounds are an enabling components to the quartz tube design, and which are derived through a racemic solution which crystallizes by way of a spontaneous resolution into the desired homochiral crystals called conglomerates. This is the likely explanation for specifically calling for Herkimer Quartz in the capacitors. Now of course we must remember here that we are talking a specification which is no longer necessary since the manufacturing of desired crystalline patterns has since been accomplished, and which further appears to have transcended into metalic compounds.

"5-10% of all racemates are known to crystallize as mixtures of enantiopure crystals, so-called conglomerates."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiral_resolution

Refer now back to Mahmoud E. Yousif paper.

The Double Slit Experiment Re-Explained

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/307122920_The_Double_Slit_Experiment_Re-Explained

[spacecase0]

Switching caps??

yes, set up a circle of capacitors (like shown in this thread in the ARV), then switch them on one at a time around in the circle. and you are going to be doing this with high voltage.
think of something like a car distributor to do the switching
(not sure if you would have to drain them of energy when they are not actively on, so it might be a bit more complex than a car distributor)

[phoneboy]

Bingo!

Nice Spacecase, that was fast. Switching caps??

[spacecase0]

Thanks for the link to the tr3b posting, video. Have only re-engineered this in my head/on paper and I never saw that video, but it feels great to know when you're right. Now you just need to figure out how to generate a magnetic field without a current flowing thru a conductor.

one way to make a magnetic field without a current flowing thru a conductor is to set up a rotating electrostatic field.
the spinning devices I have set up with electrostatic voltage on them make a huge magnetic field. not sure if you can do it by electrical switching like is depicted in the ARV capacitors, but will not be to hard to test that. I just have not got to building it yet.

[Gambeir]

I'm reviewing a private discussion forum and am going to post these links as information.
Note that these links date backwards such that the Telos TR-6 is from 2012, so not actually a breaking news flash now, but possibly not well known.



Link to hypothetical HD image of Telos TR-6

http://www.theobjectreport.com/media/TR6_TELOS.png

BREAKING UFO NEWS 24/7 FROM AROUND THE WORLD | FULL DISCLOSURE SPECIAL REPORT AND INVESTIGATIVE BLOG: Hypothetical Origin of the Unidentified "Phoenix Boomerang" Craft (Updated)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_wire

This pdf explains what our sun really is; liquid hydrogen, and so now there's been a drive to re-create metal hydrogen, which has now been accomplished. Adding it up to a fusion propulsion system is the obvious objective.
Liquid Metallic Hydrogen: A Building Block for the Liquid Sun

https://web.archive.org/web/20160317024626/http://www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2011/PP-26-07.PDF

Dr. Pierre-Marie Robitaille: Sun on Trial | EU2014 (* A lecture by Robitaille on the liquid hydrogen Sun)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TOKo7Ik9f8

THE SCIENCE OF TORSION, GYROSCOPES AND PROPULSION

http://synchronizeduniverse.com/IUFO%20OUTLINE%20v23.pdf

Superconducting Magnets For Space Application Nuclear Power and Propulsion Systems

http://web.archive.org/web/20110815143421/http://ams.cern.ch/AMS/ETB/Appendix%20C-Russia.pdf

Spin Connection Resonance in the Faraday Disk Generator

http://www.aias.us/documents/uft/paper107.pdf

HD Image of 1989 Rockwell International Space Plan

https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/integratedspaceplan-19891.jpg

Review of Electrogravitics & Electrokinetics Propulsion by Thomas F. Valone
(Has a small segment at the end on the ARV)

http://file.scirp.org/pdf/IJG_2015042015204020.pdf

A patent on:
Ultra high energy capacitors using intense magnetic field insulation produced by high-Tc superconducting elements for electrical energy storage and pulsed power applications

https://www.google.com/patents/US5110793

A replication of the Quadra test done by Telos Research on 'Toroid coils and Vector Potential, by JNL Labs.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/vpexp/

A quote from the following defunct website which either John St. Clair read directly, or else he thought it independently, but this is the conceptual idea behind the St. Clair Patents.
"If Einstein was correct in saying that a mass cannot be accelerated all the way up to light speed, can we perhaps "cheat" by bringing DOWN the effective speed of light in a given area of space?"

Defunct Website

https://web.archive.org/web/19980415063301/http://www.tricountyi.net:80/~randerse/mainmenu.htm

"It would seem that by manipulating electromagnetics properly we might be able to alter the properties of a region of space and thus be able to perform all sorts of strange magic tricks."

https://web.archive.org/web/19980415081020/http://www.tricountyi.net:80/~randerse/veloc1.htm

https://web.archive.org/web/19980415063301/http://www.tricountyi.net:80/~randerse/mainmenu.htm

Video on making homemade water glass: A high temperature adhesive for refractory lining

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mx1-o1_MWo

[phoneboy]

Affirmation

Have to agree with bistander on this one. If i remember correct one of the descriptions i read mentioned the central tube being silvered, which is what would happen to a tube containing mercury vapor (wetting). Picture this, what if at the bottom of the tube you have a tungsten point (shown), but a tungsten ring at the top (not shown). The tube is filled with mercury vapor and conducting a high enough voltage to ionize the gas. The tube is being influenced by a magnetic field who's n-s, s-n axis is in line (parallel) with the axis of the tube. What might occur? Remember this is old tech 40-50's (stay simple). Have you heard of the TR3B, if supposedly uses a ring of superconducting mercury vapor rotated @ relativistic velocities causing a weight loss of up to 90%.

Thanks for the link to the tr3b posting, video. Have only re-engineered this in my head/on paper and I never saw that video, but it feels great to know when you're right. Now you just need to figure out how to generate a magnetic field without a current flowing thru a conductor.

[Gambeir]

Interesting stuff, that ExMF. My research has been following a different route. It can be found in the attachment. A few interesting things found. In particular, "non-Newtonian gravity" which, I assume, is the scientific manner of avoiding the term "anti-gravity". The document is train-of-thought so it bounces around a bit.

I also identified a huge dichotomy: how do you make a person anti-gravitic without killing them and, if you don't make them anti-gravitic, how do you keep them alive while making the radical acceleration and turning maneuvers reported since they are still subject to inertia.

Thanks so much for the effort and posting your own thoughts in this way.
It's very useful to have in this form.

I have read Ed Leedskalnin's book on magnetic current. It's been a while though. Some very clear headed thinking however.

http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Edward-Leedskalnin-Magnetic-Current.pdf

" the central column is not a supercharger for the power source but, in fact, in conjunction with the flywheel, is the power source."

I certainly agree that it could indeed be just that.

"and that it contains helical “ropes” of mercury surrounded by plasma that appears to be “silvery grey material flowing in a clear tube in
twisting counter rotating [helices]“ when viewed from outside that tube."

I discounted mercury simply because I couldn't understand how it could be organized to produce the required spiral forms. However the rotating plasma fields as shown by Antigraviticsystem1 could usefully explain how to accomplish this.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20709-tr-3b-concept.html

I also looked at Tokamac nuclear fusion reactors. I concluded this is a silly way to try to reproduce what nature does naturally with space born bolides. The problem with Tokamac's is they are trying to contain the plasma inside a metal donut with magnets, instead of re-producing a magnetic field from the inside like a plasma bolide. In a space borne bolide there is a hole in center of the bolide and which is creating the magnetic field just as Ken Wheeler describes the magnetic field originating out of the precise center of a magnet, and so a bolide is evidently a space borne magnetic plasmoid which is maintaining/creating its electromagnetic field by following a dielectric ray. In a bolide it's the magnetic field that's holding the plasma in a magnetic ball and which is all taking place from the center of the bolide. The center of the bolide has a holed column area, which I think is where the dielectric ray passes through, and which would then be creating/powering the magnetic field which holds the plasma fast to a spherical form. It's likely that the more intelligent path would be forego the idea of containment in the immediate area and instead recreate a free standing reactor, possibly placing it in an orbital platform, and then beam the power to earth via microwaves. Like I need to tell them that huh? This just proves that the whole thing is a money pit which isn't designed to work, but form an excuse to funnel tax dollars into corporate energy pockets. They know as well as I do how to it right. They just don't want to do it right is all. They would rather steal our tax dollars and then claim they are trying to make a minature sun in a tin can. Now I searched that stupid Google for an image of a plasma bolide, but google has been quite active scrubbing information and I cannot find one single image of a plasma borne space bolide of any kind, and I know that about a year ago this wasn't a problem.

Super Conductivity

You're also right about the time frame. Super conductivity was known long ago. It was clearly information the Nazi scientists would have been aware of, but I imagine there's a work around to this problem of superconductivity that's hiding somewheres which would work for the time period. We just don't yet know what it is because we haven't yet thought of it, but it's likely there and it's likely that something enables a similar or good enough result, but regardless the scientists of that epoch knew about superconductivity and how to accomplish it. Now more recently the infamous "they" have been following along here, to accomplish with light, what we are basically blathering about and while trying to explain to our own selves how mercury or ferrofluids might have been used in an early machine.

Now my mind is being taxed by time here, but in the early stages of researching this machine I also found that you can follow a sort of pathway wherein the first attempts to do away with all this complexity came about by way of lasers. Matter and energy are one and the same and so the idea was that by feeding high powered light (laser beams) through a circular tube you could effectively do away with all this stuff we are talking about. Initially they were trying to use mirrors to form a circular path for the laser beams to follow, but the diffraction lead to too much loss evidently, and so now they have focused on optical cables which can withstand high energy beams. Now that too proved unfeasible and so they have evidently reverted to using a magnetic field to contain or guide a charged particle field into circular paths. Whatever they have done is probably along these lines since the video's of the TR#B show these orbs of light on the corners and in the center with the entire craft becoming enveloped in a ball of brilliant light just as it takes off at hyperspeed. It doesn't vanish, it just moves out at ultra high speed. So the enveloping of the craft in a ball of brilliant blinding light is likely the result of significant increase in energy input to the particle field which is likely also a circular ball shape like a bolide, but in any case it's some kind ring shape. So ya know, that's how they are creating this gravitational field now, but the discussion over the ARV is still necessary to understand things like power, how this all works, the other parts involving crystalline patterns and so on and so forth.

On the Disc in center of vehicle.
"I think that “flywheel” which everybody sort of ignores is the key
to this vehicle. I don’t believe it is drawn correctly either."

Now the disc is a problem child. I'm with you on this one. Believe me, I've bounced this all over.
Ultimately I think you've explained this brilliantly.

"It could be some type of unipolar generator disc but a more interesting prospect is “An angularly accelerated superconductive ring
induces non-Newtonian gravitational fields in its neibourghood.” Mark’s use of the term “flywheel” implies rotation. So the
flywheel could be a combination of an angularly accelerated superconductive ring that is a unipolar generator, the thing making it a
ring rather than a disc being the hole in the center for the central column which it surrounds. Note in the description of the solar
circuit, “The sun acts as a unipolar inductor…”

Makes a lot of sense: "a moving mass generates a gravitomagnetic field>a superconductive gyroscope is capable of generating a powerful gravitomagnetic field, and is therefore the gravitational counterpart of the magnetic coil."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060325232140.htm

" It is well known that a rotating superconductor produces a magnetic field proportional to its angular velocity. "

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/1971802_Measurement_of_Gravitomagnetic_and_Acceleration_Fields_Around_Rotating_Superconductors

https://arxiv.org/ftp/gr-qc/papers/0610/0610015.pdf

It’s not clear to me if the “angularly accelerated superconductive ring” could be a stationary superconductive ring with an angularly
accelerated rotating magnetic field and produce the same result.

Here I agree that the bottles are also for the production of super-cooling, and I think you bring a dang interesting idea forward here. Suppose we just cool the disc and then fire the electromagnet off in sequence creating a spinning electromagnetic field. Isn't that the same thing? I think you've solved the center disc problem. I think you've explained it. Less complexity is better and I feel this would accomplish the same thing. Just guessing of course, but I see shades of John St. Clair's bobbin going round about.

Will re-read this again and ponder the ideas about effects.

Thanks for the work. Dang interesting idea there about the disc I think.
See, I just know there's a work around. There's always a solution somewhere.

[thx1138]

Research

Interesting stuff, that ExMF. My research has been following a different route. It can be found in the attachment. A few interesting things found. In particular, "non-Newtonian gravity" which, I assume, is the scientific manner of avoiding the term "anti-gravity". The document is train-of-thought so it bounces around a bit.

I also identified a huge dichotomy: how do you make a person anti-gravitic without killing them and, if you don't make them anti-gravitic, how do you keep them alive while making the radical acceleration and turning maneuvers reported since they are still subject to inertia.

[Gambeir]

Gambeir,
for all the searching I have done on the web,
no idea how I missed that website.
thank you for finding this.
EXTERNAL MAGNETIC FIELD PROPULSION AND FLYING OBJECTS

This gives us something to work with. I note that a lot of things that have been tossed about have foundations in this mans' work.

The trick is going to be to melt this down to a practical understanding. It's just like anything else, there's a lot of math and physics to aviation as well, but when you get down to brass tacks a person doesn't need to know a single thing about that to build an airplane. So that's the task really. Melting this stuff down, adding and revising, and so forth.

The information he has available, and I'd download and save it myself, should profoundly impact our understanding of what's taking place with other devices once this is understood more widely. I kind of hate to say this, but frankly we've been playing a half a deck of cards for a long time, and this explains the many hit and misses with other devices.

[spacecase0]

Gambeir,
for all the searching I have done on the web,
no idea how I missed that website.
thank you for finding this.
EXTERNAL MAGNETIC FIELD PROPULSION AND FLYING OBJECTS