An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

using ideas from relativity, changing gravity would change time.
but remember that relativity has been disproven
THEORY OF RELATIVITY ? UTLIMATE DISPROOF
so not sure how much relativity has to teach us anymore

I am resolutely convinced that gravity is caused by time flowing at different speeds in different places.
so, you have time flowing slower in the middle of the planet than it does in space, this causes matter to "fall" to the planet where there is the slower time field.
it works kind of like diffraction bends light at the boundary of a slower speed of light (like air VS glass)
now if this is the case, it means that you alter gravity by altering the time fields. you negate gravity by setting up a slower time field over the top of something. keeping in mind that the 3 field forces (time, electricity, magnetism) are usually all at right angles to each other, you now have a better path to figuring out what hardware to build than you ever got with relativity ideas.

Actually that's what seems to be taking place Spacecase0: Time flowing at different speeds in different localities. In other words, a bit like bubbles drifting about in between a sea of time.

Notice that the first indications publicly known that the gravitational field was alterable came with high speed counter spinning masses. Theory says these masses are dragging time as they rotate; so-called time frame dragging. In other words this is creating a bubble of time warping inside of our gravity field, which might then logically be understood as creating a time bubble inside of a larger bubble of time, and which would be our larger and normal time field.

Notice in the Robert Baker example the high powered lasers are not stationary. It's not just two big light bulbs sitting in two different spots. They are moving in order to create a flow or vortex which then is giving off a so-called gravitational vector for exploitation, but if this is in truth a time vector that is being induced by the rotation then we are on to a whole new ball game.

Hmm...this might then explain why the Jason Report on Dr. Robert Bakers HFGW' was poo pooed big time. God forbid he's on to time travel!
Who does Hitler look like anyways? Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? OK, we know who you were, now where are these goons hiding?
See what I mean? Real time bandits?

[spacecase0]

I do realize what a sweeping statement it is to say that altering gravity means altering time by definition (*for us). I will not be offended by alternative or more enlightened explanations. The explanation I gave is what I think based off my rather limited understandings on the whole, but I do think it stands to reason that our own perceptions of time are directly connected to the intertwined weaving's of gravitational fields.

using ideas from relativity, changing gravity would change time.
but remember that relativity has been disproven
THEORY OF RELATIVITY ? UTLIMATE DISPROOF
so not sure how much relativity has to teach us anymore

I am resonantly convinced that gravity is caused by time flowing at different speeds in different places.
so, you have time flowing slower in the middle of the planet than it does in space, this causes matter to "fall" to the planet where there is the slower time field.
it works kind of like diffraction bends light at the boundary of a slower speed of light (like air VS glass)
now if this is the case, it means that you alter gravity by altering the time fields. you negate gravity by setting up a slower time field over the top of something. keeping in mind that the 3 field forces (time, electricity, magnetism) are usually all at right angles to each other, you now have a better path to figuring out what hardware to build than you ever got with relativity ideas.

[Gambeir]

I do realize what a sweeping statement it is to say that altering gravity means altering time by definition (*for us). I will not be offended by alternative or more enlightened explanations. The explanation I gave is what I think based off my rather limited understandings on the whole, but I do think it stands to reason that our own perceptions of time are directly connected to the intertwined weaving's of gravitational fields.

I also grasp that perception and reality are most likely constructs of an incorporeal consciousness which has immersed itself in a form of experiment we call life. Energetic Forums marvelous thread on the incorporeal nature of consciousness started by MonsieurM way back in 2012 and which ran for 178 pages over three years. http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...l-antenna.html

Interview: *Note: Dr. Anderson practically says in this interview that time viewers are real; that the chronovisor is a reality.
Dr David Lewis Anderson & Hillary Raimo Time Travel & Space Time Physics @YinRadioTV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3K9yNH3ZzE

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVty4Big4oA[/VIDEO]

[Gambeir]

Altering gravity means altering time by definition (*for us). Our time is time driven by time frame dragging as a part of spin states, from the molecular to the macro Universe and our solar systems' orbital position within it. Gravitational rotation dictates how we view time and which means why we can only see the present and past, but not the future. To change gravity, locally or otherwise, is to alter our physical reality. This thread has, so far, only addressed gravity modification as a means to one end, but there are others and time modifications and physical perceptions of past, present, and future are a part of what takes place when you accomplish the alteration of gravity.

I understand where you're all coming from, and I do mean all sides of the issue here, however I'm not bringing this up as philosophical discussion. Time variations are well known in Ufology, and this goes beyond missing time to slowed time and hyper time, or hyperchronism. What Dr. Anderson says appear to be on-going distortions with historical events, which have been termed the Mandela Effect and which are happening, and they are happening as part of research labs screwing with time. Certain features of which remind me of the known records from the infamous Skin Walker Ranch now under the control of billionaire Robert Bigelow.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinwalker_Ranch

I myself listened to the interview with Dr. David Anderson and I recommend it. Dr. Anderson's website isn't just another web site tossed up by someone interested in hypothetical or imaginary philosophical discussions about time. This is real technology. It's here, it's now, it's happening, and more to the point, it's a part of this technology which this thread is about. Even more importantly, for the aware, the pre-programming going down with entertainment shows like "The leftovers," well ...just listen to the interview with Dr. Anderson. This is the most recent interview I could find.
It's from 2016. Very rare information. Interview: Dr David Lewis Anderson & Hillary Raimo Time Travel & Space Time Physics @YinRadioTV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3K9yNH3ZzE

I realize it's an interesting and fascinating subject all by itself, with origins which mirror those of Nazi UFO's, and infact that's where the story begins for the Chronovisor and which involved some of the brightest minds the world has known. Now you can dismiss this if you like but ....Nobel laureate Enrico Fermi and Wernher von Braun were two of twelve whom supposedly were involved in this time viewer, and there's another part to this I'm trying to locate again, but the scrubbing of information from the net has been going on for a while now, however there is an important person whom was also supposedly a part of this, a former student of Fermi if I recall, brilliant, and whom moved to Brazil from Italy/Vatican City before WWII starts, interestingly enough, and then later vanishes. Almost like he found a way to get somewhere's else maybe.

Not that Wikipedia is a great or trusty source of information, for example an apparent shill, Dr. Katherine Eldred of Princeton University *an officially approved expert don't ya know...it's all fake of course....nothing to see, is about the only information left on Wikipedia, but it wasn't always like that. This wikipedia information has been heavily revised and redacted from the original post which I read years ago on the Chronovisor; eliminating the names of those involved as well as being entirely gutted. Now containing virtually a denial using officially approved mouth pieces from the Ivy League crime syndicates educational system. These Ivy League Experts are not put out there to help, but rather to impede, and naturally they make no mention of anything which might remotely suggest this device is even plausible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronovisor

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/esp_ciencia_timetravel20.htm

Reversing Time at Sub-Light Speed. *part 1 of 3
by David Anderson, Ph.D.
Reversing Time at Sub-light Speed

Father Ernetti's Chronovisor : The Creation and Disappearance of the World's First Time Machine by Peter Krassa, New Paradigm Books, 2000.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/time_travel/esp_ciencia_timetravel20.htm

First Time Machine by Peter Krassa,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ernetti%27s_Chronovisor

A slideshare on time theories

https://www.slideshare.net/akmed13/how-to-build-a-real-time-machine

http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Baker_03.pdf

Precursor Proof-of-Concept Experiments for Various
Categories of High-Frequency Gravitational Wave
(HFGW) Generators
Robert M. L. Baker, Jr.

http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Baker_04.pdf

Can Gravity Be Induced?

http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Plasma_01.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_viewer

Link to home page weird and unusual

http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/unusual.html

VANISHING / REAPPEARING OBJECTS

http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/objs.html

HUMAN TELEPORTATION

http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/telep.html

[thx1138]

I used poor words,
should have said that it is a construct of consciousness
and just because it is a construct, it does not mean that your consciousness can selectively alter it. and like any math, it has clear rules.
math is a construct, but just because it is, you can not say that 2+2=3, 2+2=4 no matter how much you don't like it. it is defined this way, and I think reality is the same way.
so why is reality here then ? or who started it running ?
it was possible to happen, so it just is. but that does not mean that it is not built out of pure logic as a construct.

did I do any better of getting the what I am thinking across ?
and I totally understand if you get what I am saying and just think I am wrong, but would love to know either way.

I understand what you are saying but the "rules" are what we make up. There's a form of math called quaternians. I don't fully understand it because I haven't taken the time to delve into it but in quaternian math A X B X C X D is not necessarily equal to C X B X D X A. So even within our own rules there are different rules.

Nature doesn't care about our rules. What we call "laws of nature" are anything actually our laws of nature not nature's laws of nature.

Magnetic Monopoles Detected In A Real Magnet For The First Time -- ScienceDaily
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0325111154.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0104143516.htm
Researchers break Newton's third law - with lasers - ExtremeTech
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0731122700.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0717172901.htm
http://cosmologyscience.com/cosblog/...ntal-particle/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...1219142138.htm
http://phys.org/news/2016-08-physici...odynamics.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0624134945.htm
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0530115019.htm
https://phys.org/news/2017-02-chu-li...imit.html#nRlv
https://phys.org/news/2017-07-hundre...verturned.html

And I have 100's more of broken "rules".

Your example of 2+2 works fine for integers but what is the value of 2 X PI? No one knows. PI has been calculated out to a trillion digits or more and they have still not found a repeating sequence of digits.

so why is reality here then ? or who started it running ?

If the universe is infinite, it has no beginning and no end. No one set it running. It has always been "running" and it will continue to eternity. Why? Nature needs no reason. It just is, has always been, and always will be. Change is the fundamental property of the universe. For entropy to exist negative entropy must also exist to order things so they can be disordered.

The real question is why can't humans accept infinity as a valid answer to anything?

How long is the coast line of England?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yE4d7O17wE

[spacecase0]

I used poor words,
should have said that it is a construct of consciousness
and just because it is a construct, it does not mean that your consciousness can selectively alter it. and like any math, it has clear rules.
math is a construct, but just because it is, you can not say that 2+2=3, 2+2=4 no matter how much you don't like it. it is defined this way, and I think reality is the same way.
so why is reality here then ? or who started it running ?
it was possible to happen, so it just is. but that does not mean that it is not built out of pure logic as a construct.

did I do any better of getting the what I am thinking across ?
and I totally understand if you get what I am saying and just think I am wrong, but would love to know either way.

[thx1138]

What? A large rock falls off a cliff. It accelerates towards the center of the earth, according to the math and physics which man has developed to describe this particular event. If you are standing underneath that rock, it does not matter what your perception is, you get squished. What roll does perception play in the physics of that event? Could the poor flattened fellow have saved himself if he had perceived gravity differently?

bi

Good one. Reminds me of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy where humans can fly by throwing themselves at the ground and having a friend distract them so that they forget to hit it.

I suppose if he perceived the gravity of the situation and moved his ass he could saved himself.

[thx1138]

I am convinced that not only time is only a man made construct like mathematics, but all of reality is a man made construct very similar to mathematics, everyone liked it so much that many of us moved here.
and this is why perception plays such a large roll in physics.

I agree that all of an individual's reality is their self made, i.e. man made, construct because it resides in their brain and only in their brain.

That idea came into sharp focus when my wife's mother had to live with us while she had a brain tumor. She complained about smells in the house that just weren't there. We found her in the back yard one day and she wouldn't go into the house because the smell of lacquer paint was too strong. It wasn't there, there was no new paint or open paint containers but it was none the less real for her.

I spend a bit of time in rural settings and I'll guarantee you that all of reality is not a man made construct. When you see an animal like a wolf or mountain lion looking at you and you lock eyes with it and it's deciding whether or not you are going to be their next meal you know that there are different realities than the man made ones.

And that's true for natural phenomena of all kinds, i.e. hurricanes, tornadoes, erupting volcanoes, etc. We may build our own constructs around them, but the core is real. A 17 foot aluminum canoe flying through the air like a piece of straw is not a man made construct.

That get's us to the idea that all of reality is a computer simulation. Well, a simulation of what, exactly? Balderdash, I say.

[bistander]

Perception

I am convinced that not only time is only a man made construct like mathematics, but all of reality is a man made construct very similar to mathematics, everyone liked it so much that many of us moved here.
and this is why perception plays such a large roll in physics.

What? A large rock falls off a cliff. It accelerates towards the center of the earth, according to the math and physics which man has developed to describe this particular event. If you are standing underneath that rock, it does not matter what your perception is, you get squished. What role does perception play in the physics of that event? Could the poor flattened fellow have saved himself if he had perceived gravity differently?

bi

[spacecase0]

I am convinced that not only time is only a man made construct like mathematics, but all of reality is a man made construct very similar to mathematics, everyone liked it so much that many of us moved here.
and this is why perception plays such a large roll in physics.

[thx1138]

IMO, time is only a man made construct like mathematics. It's handy for modeling things and measuring things but it's not a real thing that exists in nature. It's something we have constructed to measure change but that is backwards - change creates the illusion of time.

The basic idea is that each instant of existence is a specific configuration of the entire universe. To travel in time, in either direction, would require reconfiguring the entire universe to a specific state, a prior state to travel back in time, or a state that has not yet occurred to travel forward in time.

A related idea is that the universe is infinite, has always been infinite, and will always be infinite. And it has infinite dimensions, not 3 or 4 or 11 dimensions, but fractional dimensions. Our mathematics hint at this with PI and PHI.

Both mathematics and time are handy tools for us to build things but they are, at best, approximations. And the further the approximations are from reality, the further they are from the real universe. As an example, consider the ramifications of using 3.0 for PI instead of 3.1416... Another good example is "the speed of light" which is properly stated as "the speed of light in a vacuum" but there is no vacuum anywhere in the universe. And worse, it is considered to be constant. That's handy but wrong.

Go outside and ask yourself, How do we distinguish man made objects from natural objects? Man made objects, by and large, are made with Euclidean geometry which is another man made construct derived from man made mathematics. But you see they are distinguishable from nature by their geometry. Then ask yourself, How do we camouflage man made objects? By covering them with non-Euclidean patterns.

I think it was Eric Dollard that said, Mother nature doesn't do math. She doesn't do Euclidean geometry either.

The notion of time travel is simply mathematical hocus pocus.

[Gambeir]

From the link you provided: "The greater the frequency the electricity, the more it pushes against the earth's electrostatic and electromagnetic fields." and "Outside the earth's magnetic field, another propulsion system must be used, which relies on the first." and then he goes on to explain particle4 accelerators and say, "The high-speed particles go out through straight lengths of pipe, charged like the loops and in speeding out into space, push the machine along."

Mark McCandlish talks about the Cassimir force and doing something with zero point energy to cause "mass cancellation" in the ARV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua0MMXJl3FM

I'm proposing an electrogravitic system for the ARV which creates a local gravity field around the vehicle and the vehicle rides that gravity field for motion.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258847712_In_Gravitoelectromagnetic_Theories_HISTORY_OF_ELECTROGRAVITICS

So the operating principles aren't the same either. That's not to say any of them will or won't work but that they are different systems.

UFO's and time chronism/time alteration. Glad you've brought this up. There's issues to consider here in experimenting. Remember; never apply full power first.
The Anderson Institute is undoubtedly the leading site for information on time travel theory, and in which there is an extensive post on the Casimir Effect.
Highly recommended site. The Anderson Institute

"The Anderson Institute is a private research and development laboratory whose resources are targeted specifically at the time control applications using time-warped field technology in its proprietary time reactor systems (patent pending)."

Casimir Effect Time Travel



Interview:
Dr David Lewis Anderson & Hillary Raimo Time Travel & Space Time Physics @YinRadioTV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3K9yNH3ZzE

[Gambeir]

OK for entertainment purposes I've tossed the following together.

Direct link for larger image.

https://postimg.org/image/hlmup60dh/

https://postimg.org/image/k48jpum3p/ 30 day image link from time of posting.

[Gambeir]

thinking about all this makes me want to try something

if forced precession of a gyroscope makes it have thrust,
and remember how a gyroscope will track magnetic field lines.
could you simulate forced precession with correctly rotating magnetic field ?
might be way more effective than trying to do it physically
if it works, it would be why the ARV has that big central spinning disk

There's a long history to the development of microwaves as we have them today in our kitchens, and if you go digging into this it is all related in round about ways to your thoughts. I have a notion you've hit the nail on the head so to speak.

[Gambeir]

In my opinion, it appears that what we are receiving are covert attempts to inform us how to create the same effects which people have now been reporting by the millions, and this information has to be given covertly because of the extreme personal dangers it would entail to do it in any other way. I believe that things like the George Adamski case was part of an early attempt to reveal what was understood by others, and as to what role George may have himself played is of course open. Silent patriot to humanity, using models, props, doctored photo's, film of test models? It's all open in the light of other days, but it does appear to me that rather than these people being kooks, that they were themselves involved, one way or the other, in an attempt at disclosure. We have all been so mind controlled that it is us who have failed them, and not the other way round. Eventually truth will out. Maybe that time is now.


Before I goon up peoples own ideas, which I'm good at doing by the way, I'd like to have some input from others. Anyone can pm me with drawing if they prefer, or post them directly, and I'll be glad to refine if so desired.

I believe now that the Barbury Crop Circle image is giving us critical information by way of an over-all description. It's not a specific schematic or how to construction diagram. It's an over-all projection of the primary components. That's what I think right now. I think this is a logical deduction given what has been covered and the work done by Chris on this. Now Chris simply mounted a cyclotron on top of tubes he used as wave guides flowing to three spheres. Evidently this produced a significant reduction in weight. Memory says it was an amazing 25%. If that's right then there's nothing which has been tested that remotely comes close to that, and that's with this simple arrangement.

I think that it's pretty obvious (now) that this crop circle has all the main information needed to make a working design with off the shelf components, and components we all should be capable of finding without any trouble at all. Probably could go to Craigslist and come up with everything for free, except of course tin foil and glue. How interesting that kooks are supposedly wearing tin foil hats huh? See folks, there's something deep going on here with this stuff. It's not accidental. The introduction of tin foil head gear was intentional, but where from and why tin foil?

Now speaking of Kooks lets look at the Adamski UFO, though the Nazi UFO's themselves often sport the same spherical half balls on the bottom of their ground breaking designs. Now you also notice there's this large round thingy in the middle on the bottom between these spheres.

OK? So now let's have it people. If you don't already have a ready made tin foil hat then immediately construct a suitable one and put it on for deep thinking. Let's have it: Ideas here...what do you think is happening? Never mind right or wrong...nobody cares about your ego...nor should you.


Some of the best Adamski images are here.


Link to Barbury Crop Circle Image as Surveyed.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170924182936/https://wonderinspirit.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/dna-repair.gif

I've got to make some drawings about what I think may be happening. I'd like to see what others may think as well.

Look at the images of early UFO's. Here the Adamski UFO