An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Bugfly]

By suggestion of Gambeir moved from the topic

Your English is fine. However I think you're probably not right about that but the ideas are interesting and I'm glad you took the effort to post them. Shows you're thinking for yourself. Certainly something we can put in the stock pile. I feel we have a fair idea what is taking place based on both conventional physics (Einsteinian) and un-conventional Aether Theory. Here's what I think at present. It's probably completely and laughably wrong but this is what I'm rather wildly hypothesizing is the reason this machine works.

The machine either is, or may be doing one or more of the following.
1. It's producing a charged sheath vortex with an outer sheath containing positive ion charged air molecules, and with an inner sheath of negatively charged air molecules. Similar to a tornado. This is a product of the spinning magnets whose polarities are negative on the bottom and positive on the top. The positive charge is more energetic and will surround the negative charge constricting it as it spins Earthward. The Earth is a ground and the nature of the negative charge is be repelled by the ground but when it is forced to contact it is at a fine point and this is partly why the tornado has this cone shape to it.

Because the magnets are in rotation they induce a slowly expanding energy field which is now carrying the electric potential outwards and which is further energized by the production of a cold plasma. Eventually forming a plasmoid shape which in a high energy system could become an airborne bolide capable of self support and harboring protective qualities from radar wave interception.

2. The asymmetrical arrangement of the lower plate with the magnets, as compared to the overhead AC High Voltage Plate, helps to pull hyper-space/counter space in around the machine and the vortex tubes. A higher speed electro-magnetic system may alone suffice if cycling at high frequency and with high energy. The effect lowers the speed of light in the local area, enabling hyper velocity travel and altered energy requirement.

3. While this is taking place the rotating magnetic field, spun by the lower plate, is transmitted directly through the Alternating Current Potential of the High Voltage Plate which induces Coriolis force upon the spin states of the High Voltage Plate's Electrical Charge. Thus the rotating magnetic plate is actually a wireless DC circuit crossing through air and matter while being put in a rotation. I think that this is the primary critical feature and which manages to induce enough of an alteration in the spin states of the AC High Voltage Field to produce a vectored thrust away from Earth which is greatly enhanced by the now altered space time which surrounds the vehicle.

4. The most likely reason this machine works is because it is capable of creating an artificial space time, effectively replacing the surrounding space time, and thereby the power requirements are greatly changed so that subtle changes in the vectored thrust of the High Voltage AC fields electrons are sufficiently powerful enough to create a vertical lift.

5. The upper plate is providing a surface for the positive ionized air molecules which do create a positive effect. However, it's really the top most part of the machine, the supporting top plate which is doing this and that covering should be dome shaped to enhance the effect.

Gambeir,

[Bugfly]

By suggestion of Gambeir moved from the topic

Hi guys! Imagine that the upper and lower disks are like millstones.




And between them is the middle fixed disk...
What will happen on the surface of the middle disk?
More precisely than what is happening on its upper surface differs from what is happening on the lower?
I think only the middle disk is lifting up.
The other two only make different conditions of something (electrons movement maybe) on the lower surface of the middle disk and on the upper surface of the middle disk. This difference of conditions works like the power of Archimedes and the disk just pops up like a wood in the water. We still do not know how the power of Archimedes actually works. Forget the standard explanation. What is realy causes it? There are a lot of problems in this field, for example, why does a funnel form in the bathroom when water is drained? Maybe Alexey's device will begin the understanding of this process. Forgive me my english if i was not correct. Google translate helps me...

[Gambeir]

This is more in line with what I thinking. A standard Alexey with the addition of pyramids/tetrahedrons. Joe Parr said the pyramid/triangles enter hyper~space when they reached a resonance with the magnetic field.

So this addition might be tried by attaching a triangular shape to the HV plate. Joe used copper cut triangle but later said that he discovered it didn't matter what they made from. We now have a number of machines which involved hyper space or the creation of an artificially induced hyper spacial bubble: Those of John St. Clair in his patents, The McCandlish ARV, Joe Parr's which were real working machines, images of Black Triangles, and now the Alexey.

[Gambeir]

Ride of Your Life - Electromagnetic Aether/Superfluid

Al

Absolutely~ Cool find

[aljhoa]

Anyways~ So yea, spinning mass ... none of which I can claim to have done myself.

Ride of Your Life - Electromagnetic Aether/Superfluid


Al

[Gambeir]

OK, is ya are all educated now?

Now here is something I ran in to. I have not yet tried to replicate this myself. I'm going out on a limb using it, but I don't think I've ever seen this idea forwarded by anyone, and the most amazing idea is actually asked afterwards in the comments by someone regarding the relationship between the Earth and the Moon.

If any of you replicate this say so. It's cold and wet outside and I only have two hands myself. Like I say I'm really going out on the limb posting this so it could be complete garbage. It looks like you need a cut stone to do this or two that have flat spots.

If there is anything to this the implications are mind bending.

Take a look my dear mud dwellers

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1GuGIqwmJM[/VIDEO]

[Gambeir]

This may seem a tangent which is unrelated but in the end I think you will perhaps see that it has a purpose which relates back to the theme of this thread and to the previous posts. This is not a rant. It has a purpose. I've been watching this develop for a long time. There's something happening in your own back yard. Someone or something is literally building a fort in your back yard, you just don't yet know it and that's the rub: why is he hiding the fort in the back yard?

I didn't start out wanting to write the following but having now run into stone boulders, and equally important concern of their purpose also brings us to what else is going on around them, and that then brings us right to the door steep another big question which is directly to related UFO's. The places they evidently enjoy vacationing in, which seems to be parks/public lands and non-public off limits world wild life heritages and vast un-inhabited lands of the North and the oceans themselves. So now in some sense we have UFO's tagged to un-inhabited land, and which then seems to have a cross correlation to the theft of public lands or even the lands of nation states in some cases. Some of this involves artifact recovery.

The way our world works is that the really important stuff is cloaked behind the most seemingly innocuous organizations. Organizations "With Good Intentions" but who are unknowingly being employed to provide the hands of evil with the personnel, money, and commitment to a cause which isn't what they think it is. They are undoubtely not being run by evil people. Quite the opposite. I don't want anyone thinking these are necessarily bad people or bad organizations. There is something going on. Something which I do not understand fully but which is not good. I'm an American living in America, but you can be anyone living anywhere on this planet, the concerns have no borders. Start by noticing that un-elected bodies of appointed committees have been expropriating public and private land under the guise of quote:"protecting it." Un-elected bodies inside governments inside of governments: All with police powers. This is not a good thing and again this is a global issue.

The way evil works is to put good intentions to evil use. This is it's greatest joy. Nothing brings greater joy to evil than to use good people for bad ends. Evil is never more successful than when it has employed the fanatical crusader bent on doing good, unknowingly for the hands of evil, and the most fanatical do-gooders are always the young.

*First our so called elect took public lands and put illegal taxations on lands which are public property. No voting required. Having provided the means to lawfully steal, the changes desired are being made to these lands, and the changes create private property through bureaucracy. This change to public property is being implemented under the guise of saving them from the public. We have to see this not just as theft but as a purpose. Everywhere you look they are literally cordoning off where on these lands you can actually go, providing for example raised walkways, specific paths you are allowed to take and of course you must notify the officials in charge where you are and where you're going. Mostly for your own safety right? That's not a joke though, it's just that you probably don't realize what the real dangers might be. It was noted in the incidents involving the Big Basin Drones that those machines seemed to favor public lands/national park, and that they seemed to be looking for something. Guess what they looking for, do you think it could be You?

Stealing public lands has a historical reference from England where self appointed rulers enacted laws closing off public lands which people formerly had used to provide themselves an independent life with their livestock. Instead of herding sheep the people themselves became the sheep being herded in to poverty, hellish slave factories, coal mines, prostitution, and crime. Almost sounds familiar huh? As soon as someone start's blabbing to you that this law, this organization, this tax is needed, then you would be well advised to put on your X-Ray Googles and consider the person in front you either an outright criminal or a gullible tool. Later you can decide if the proselytizing is just another criminal scam or if it's really something which is valid. The elect are especially adept at paving the way for evil doing their good work for you in the legislatures of our governments. Most of which evidently involves taxing you, criminalizing you, your kids, or your possessions, and then restricting your freedoms and rights.

OK, so now I can move to the next huge boulder, this one a lot more likely to be of use than the last, and dang if that's not one fine interesting rock to examine. I got to hand it to them they have this story down to, well, down to petrosphere's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrosphere

Following the links ultimately takes us to, of all things, condensed matter physics. Just read a paragraph and the stones take on new meaning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensed_matter_physics

OK, so here's just a cut and paste sample of the links.

Description
The spheres range in size from a few centimetres to over 2 metres (6.6 ft) in diameter, and weigh up to 15 tons.[2] Most are sculpted from gabbro,[2] the coarse-grained equivalent of basalt. There are a dozen or so made from shell-rich limestone, and another dozen made from a sandstone. They appear to have been made by hammering natural boulders with other rocks, then polishing with sand. The degree of finishing and precision of working varies considerably. The gabbro came from sites in the hills, several kilometres away from where the finished spheres are found, though some unfinished spheres remain in the hills. They are used for decoration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_spheres_of_Costa_Rica

Most of the Stones are made from Gabbro. OK so lets just see what that is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabbro

Well first off it's phanerite, which means;
A phanerite[1] is an igneous rock whose microstructure is made up of crystals large enough to be distinguished with the unaided eye.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phanerite

Which is the opposite of Aphanite obviously.
Aphanite, or aphanitic as an adjective (from the Greek αφανης, "invisible"), is a name given to certain igneous rocks that are so fine-grained that their component mineral crystals are not detectable by the unaided eye[1]

Porphyritic is an adjective used in geology, specifically for igneous rocks, for a rock that has a distinct difference in the size of the crystals, with at least one group of crystals obviously larger than another group.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyritic

[Gambeir]

And then we have these: Stone Sphere's across the planet from the ancients.
What were they trying to replicate or are they replications at all?

Costa Rica


Bosnia


Nothing to see here, just round natural rocks, stupid native's who worshiped boulders and junk rocket parts, move along ....moooo..
UFO - Ufology - Space Balls

[Gambeir]

Hello Gambeir -et Al- and great work here, like always!

I have, somehow the idea that in the Alexey Machine we will find the very "BASICS", which generates that Gravity Counter Field effect, however, it is still not perfectly developed...as he has said himself. But undoubtedly it is a major step of advance on these fields.

Once this small device gets exploded in operation to a max operating capability...then it would become a very solid and compact "gravitational engine"...

Now if we ANALIZE a simple and plain UFO, disc shaped, with spherical center...plus all info we have on the architecture/structure of them...we realize it's "power source" including a sort of center Tesla Coil plus all drivers are located in that spherical center or "column" which gains in height versus the rest of the flat disc shape.

The HV DC spinning Electric Fields as well as the center static HV AC disc could be easily done in a DISC-RING GEOMETRY, allowing the room at center for all the TC like plus power source and drivers.

Now on the Triangle shaped UFO...let's condense in a simple Alexey device, without Power Source...but just looking at it as one (1) Gravitational Engine...then the Triangle ship is like a 3 wheel drive system, having 3 gravitational engines with room for a greater power supply-drivers-controls room... at triangle center... and so, the maneuvering on advance, lift, reverse, etc being given by the driving forces applied to each independent engine....

I recently watched a triangle UFO video a guy took while driving at night...craft was just "cruising" at low speed...but guess what?...it was moving, not with one single engine in front...but with the two aligned in fwd motion...

I will try to find video and link it here later.

here is the video:
[VIDEO]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RdiSEGGh5Lw&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]


What do you think?


Regards

Thanks for the encouragement and kind words Ufopolitics.

What you've said is right and your thoughts are supported by the history and artifacts which are known. At present all of the recovered artifacts relating to your idea are unrecognized. Around 2013 we had a series of space debris raining across the planet. There was a site where one of these had been X-rayed but a lot of this stuff has disappeared. It might still be out there but I can't locate it. Such an image today might be useful but I think we have a good idea what's involved right now. Maybe these are rocket parts and maybe they isn't ~

I'm not sure this is what you had in mind but I think these are not what people have been lead to believe and that they are rather related to the system which Michael Schratt shows.

Earth: NASA is investigating a mysterious "space ball" that crash-landed in a remote area of Namibia.

Hmm...Mars: We can ignore these


Texas: 2013 Three Space Balls.
Is It Space Junk? Texan Electrician Finds Mysterious Sphere in his Backyard
Identifying Space Debris: Further Adventures in East Texas

https://www.rt.com/news/sphere-ufo-space-brazil-103/

https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/wt1190f-space-junk-earth/2015/10/28/id/699346/

New Zealand space balls had everyone fooled | Stuff.co.nz

https://inhabitat.com/mysterious-metal-space-balls-found-in-vietnam-turned-out-to-be-space-junk/

Michael Schratt


Illustration by Michael Schratt at the below site.
Source: https://awakeandaware.ca/wp-content/...1_16-33-42.png

[Ufopolitics]

About Alexey device and triangle ships...

Hello Gambeir -et Al- and great work here, like always!

I have, somehow the idea that in the Alexey Machine we will find the very "BASICS", which generates that Gravity Counter Field effect, however, it is still not perfectly developed...as he has said himself. But undoubtedly it is a major step of advance on these fields.

Once this small device gets exploded in operation to a max operating capability...then it would become a very solid and compact "gravitational engine"...

Now if we ANALIZE a simple and plain UFO, disc shaped, with spherical center...plus all info we have on the architecture/structure of them...we realize it's "power source" including a sort of center Tesla Coil plus all drivers are located in that spherical center or "column" which gains in height versus the rest of the flat disc shape.

The HV DC spinning Electric Fields as well as the center static HV AC disc could be easily done in a DISC-RING GEOMETRY, allowing the room at center for all the TC like plus power source and drivers.

Now on the Triangle shaped UFO...let's condense in a simple Alexey device, without Power Source...but just looking at it as one (1) Gravitational Engine...then the Triangle ship is like a 3 wheel drive system, having 3 gravitational engines with room for a greater power supply-drivers-controls room... at triangle center... and so, the maneuvering on advance, lift, reverse, etc being given by the driving forces applied to each independent engine....

I recently watched a triangle UFO video a guy took while driving at night...craft was just "cruising" at low speed...but guess what?...it was moving, not with one single engine in front...but with the two aligned in fwd motion...

I will try to find video and link it here later.

here is the video:
[VIDEO]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RdiSEGGh5Lw&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]


What do you think?


Regards

[spacecase0]

Ok I should warn people that sometimes I say something without really thinking it through and here is one possible example;

"The whole idea here is to reverse the natural gravitational spin vector which takes place in matter due to the same forces."

Not too sure that's entirely correct or even remotely correct.

I get how you deal with words
you are not bothering me at all by doing that

[Gambeir]

Ok I should warn people that sometimes I say something without really thinking it through and here is one possible example;

"The whole idea here is to reverse the natural gravitational spin vector which takes place in matter due to the same forces."

Not too sure that's entirely correct or even remotely correct.

[Gambeir]

I just found this interesting site : UFO unidentified flying object Electrogravitics saucer, Space Technology, Suppressed Inventions, MUFON

It's going be a cool thing for another generation to look back on this stuff but I'm just sure they are going see all of us as a bunch of gullible idiots. At least we ourselves now have a better understanding thanks to the Alexey machine. I think you're gonna find sinergicus that the ideas in most of these are not workable because the ideas behind them aren't based on a true understanding of the energies which activate matter because really that's what counter space does. I think that as we learn more we will see that a lot of these have workable parts and might work in the atmosphere but not in space, or that they have part of it right but are missing other parts.

I've seen that site before and the real problem is not knowing what works. Well we now know what works and we can now begin to sort it all out.

[Gambeir]

In the Alexey the HV AC plate is being acted upon by an electromagnetic Coriolis force brought about by the underlying electrically charged spinning magnetic plate which is carrying this DC field perpendicular to the AC HV field in a non-uniform way via a magnetic field and because it is in rotation that non-uniform field expands.

One might think that the reason the Alexey levitates is due to the expansion of the non-uniform electromagnetic field induced by the rotation of the magnetic plate, and what really takes place is that the inducted ionized air becomes a part of the the total machine in the sense that the mass of ionized air molecules are themselves having their spin states acted upon by the Coriolis force of the rotating expanding electromagnetic field.

[Gambeir]

See Figure 11 on page 12 of NASA/TM—2006-214390

and YT Is a Spinning Gyroscope Weightless?

Al

Oh My, we really have decided to open a can of worms this AM haven't we aljhoa? Lol~ OK, well all in all, a really interesting combination and great little PDF from NASA. There are a number of tangentially related issues to the entire issue of what transpires in a spinning mass. However, this so called experiment kind of reminds me of trying to prove an airplane isn't propelled through the atmosphere by attaching a toy propeller to a stick and running around in circles. The spurious comments on the video are as golden as they are instructive. I feel sorry for the poor kid who made it but at least he does manage to demonstrate a mechanical ability.

Anyways~ So yea, spinning mass and the crap it does are all worth close study; none of which I can claim to have done myself.

So back to running around in circles with a propeller on a stick. You can't prove anything without a complete machine. Whether or not the Otis Carr OCX-X1 would work isn't as important as the concepts behind it because our technology is now capable doing this at the atomic level. Something which was probably possible for Otis as well but that's neither here nor there, and maybe Otis knew a lot more than I do, and maybe there's more than meets the eye going on if and when someone ever gets round to replicating that machine. The macro and the micro only go so far and who knows what may be with a machine replicating the micro at a macro scale.

In the OCX-X1 you have some primary ideas going on that are contained in the Jerry Bayles paper on vectored centrifugal force and you also have the probably all important ideas forwarded by James Cox, which include Coriolis force. The whole idea here is to reverse the natural gravitational spin vector which takes place in matter due to the same forces.

Speculation;
In the Alexey we have all the natural forces taking place which we think are responsible for creating gravity but applied in creative way such that the surrounding space is changed to lower the speed of light. In the Alexey machine there is a replicated "non-uniform" electro-magnetic field, it is a divided DC electromagnetic field surrounding a high frequency alternating current. This rotating electro-magnetic DC field creates an electromagnetic coriolis force which then acts upon the alternating current high voltage plate. This is akin to what takes place in the Otis OCX-X1 when the so-called Ultrons are acted upon in their spin states as they themselves orbit on another spinning plate. So in the OTC-X1, the "non-uniform" electromagnetic energy field is replaced by a physical electric magnetic actuators and which then act directly upon spinning Ultrons; n'est-ce pas?

In the Alexey the HV AC plate is being acted upon by an electromagnetic Coriolis force brought about by the underlying electrically charged spinning magnetic plate which is carrying this DC field perpendicular to the AC HV field in a non-uniform way via a magnetic field and because it is in rotation that non-uniform field expands.

At some point the non-uniform electromagnetic DC field acts upon the atomic spin states of the HF AC plate. It may act only upon the AC Current or both the current and the mass of the AC plate. I don't know which or if it's all. I'm not qualified sufficiently to know which is most likely but it is acting upon some part of that mass of the AC HF plate.

As the spin of the magnetic plate is DC charged in a vertical spin field the surrounding atmosphere is inducted to a polarized ionization state. A plasma hue should begin to appear as energy is taken in to the surrounding space around the machine.

Inside this bubble the speed of light has been changed. This is explained by John St. Clare in his patents; someone who is competent enough to do that and which is where I have to refer people to since that is far outside my own capability. Nevertheless, the thing to be observed is that the whole Alexey apparatus is essentially an artificial recreation of the space time of Earth itself.

Therefore, the critical features are the effects of an electromagnetic Coriolis force acting upon a mass. Critical because according to Counter Spacial Theory, a non uniform and incoherent energy field comprised of ubber high speed energy acts upon mass (Earth) and mass is then induced by the Coriolis force to vector inwards upon itself creating gravity. Probably a little more complex but the gist of the idea is what is important.

Extrapolation then says that a work around to gravity is to gain a frequency in tune with those upper high speed energies which act upon mass (Earth), and by doing so one then effectively becomes part of that non uniform energy field, ie counter space. The closer one becomes with this frequency the less mass they should have, and because this counter spacial energy is incoherent there is no vector needed, you simply have to get close enough to it's speed to enjoy the benefits.

Now obviously observation of physical craft such as Black Triangles shows that possibility, or that there is a correlation to the concept, so whether or not mass is being lost or whether or not light speed is being slowed is an entirely academic issue for physics to sort out once they do discover reality.

Ya know, it's taken a long time but once you have this idea about "Radiant Energy" being counter space and being an energy which is just bouncing all over at billions of times the speed of light, then you begin to gather how things actually work and it begins to come in to focus and you begin to see how things could be if only it were more widely understood. It isn't radiant energy which I see, it's an incoherent energy, just like a pond isn't a river, or light isn't a laser, it's a field of power reverberating throughout the cosmos which is akin to a fluid which behaves as a solid because it's moving at billion and billions and billions of times the speed of light. Think Carl Sagan OK? Billions~