Hi-voltage winding.
My first experiment proves the need for a coil to increase the voltage sufficiently to generate a powerful enough spark. The single wire won't work with too low a voltage spark. We need a power coil with at least the number of turns Lidmotor has in his transformer primary, or a higher voltage input like the one below:
The coil I used that worked well on my prototype was a bifilar wound series connected solenoid. There's a carbon arc pictured below made with two pencils and two 12 volt batteries in series.
"The carbon arc oscillator is a crude form of "CW" oscillator and was actually used in the early days of radio to transmit AM voice before the vacuum tube came into wide use".
Two carbon arcs, one to pulse the primary of a 12 to 120 volt transformer, and another to spin the magnet from the secondary coil should work well.
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Precaution!
Get a protective PVC coupling sleeve around the magnet spinner before you try to power it up by spark. Wear protective eye goggles. A sudden burst of speed may send potentially lethal fragments into your face.
You can saw a notch accross the center of the coupling collar so the wire seats down inside the coupling for extra protection, and cover the top. You can cut a small window to "Laser Tach" through. SAFETY FIRST!
Lidmotor say's he drew 1 amp from his 12 volt battery through his transformer primary by spark. That's (12 Huge Watts) of wildly oscillating D.C. pulse power to rotate a tiny magnet spinner; So, you gotta watch it!Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-09-2016, 06:56 PM.
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Oersted Carbon Arc Magnet Motor.
This looks like this may be the final, ultimately simple and least costly, test bed configuration: A thick wire between two uprights, just like the "Ludic Science" Oersted experiment; With a piece of mechanical pencil lead for one end connected to the positive pole of a battery by a wire clip. The negative pole attached to the other end of the wire, and a frictionless axial polarized neo magnet spinner underneath on a darning needle. The trick to running this as an "Oersted Spark Gap Magnet Motor" would simply be to precisely position the pencil lead just closely enough to the open end of the wire to trigger the spark. The end of the wire may need a smaller flimsy electric wire attached to it to act as a fluctuating contact. The "Full Spectrum Frequency" spark should make the magnet spinner take off and "spin like crazy"!Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-09-2016, 05:08 PM.
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Carbon Rod Oscillator.
Look at this "Pencil Lead" carbon rod oscillator from Lidmotor; This is not a "buzzer type" and runs silently without a transistor:
This "Carbon Plasma Arc" can definitely power a magnet spinner. Lidmotor: "It's pulsed DC (boosted to a higher voltage pulsed DC) by using a transformer. There is no sine wave though, so it is not alternating current".
Lasersaber: "The effect looks crazy on the oscilloscope"!Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-09-2016, 01:48 PM.
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Oersted and "Zero Force Motor" neutral zone.
Both the "Oersted Motor" and the Bedini "Zero Force Motors" are propelling rotor magnets from the center of the power coils between the poles:Last edited by Allen Burgess; 10-05-2017, 12:38 AM.
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Bedini's "Zero Force Motor" from Aaron Murakami :
My magnets arrived today. I'll begin work on the buzzer spinner soon.Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-07-2016, 08:09 PM.
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"Searle Effect Generator".
I've determined that the "Searle Effect Generator" has nothing at all to do with the current of the "Oersted Motor", and is powered by the 32 coils on the circumference of the outer ring:
"Surrounding the rollers on the outer ring are coils which are connected in various configurations to supply either AC or DC current at a variety of voltages".
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Searl Effect Generator.
The "Ludic Science" Oersted motor has one loop of bundled wire. I thought of placing multiple coils on the horizontal plane in concentric circles, and perhaps replacing the wire inductors with thick copper rings, like the copper conductor plug I uploaded a picture of a few posts back in #741, and it dawned on me that I was reinventing the "Searle Effect Generator", from 1960, pictured below:Last edited by Allen Burgess; 10-05-2017, 12:38 AM.
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Oersted "Zero Force Motor".
The "Ludic Science" Oersted motor is a "Zero Force Motor". There is no "Lenz drag" on the rotor!
JB's Zero Force Motor --- Lidmotor's Bedini Replication
The "Ludic Science Oersted Motor" is one large coil and the rotor's spinning to the outside "With the Grain" not accross the wraps, like Lidmotor's Bedini replication. Doubling the length of Lidmotor's power coils would allow room for a second rotor; Doubling the copper mass would generate twice the force with no additional input! This is in keeping with Hob Nilre's formulas.
Bedini's original, first built in 1971:
Bedini's scope shots prove the motor produces "Zero BEMF"!Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-07-2016, 03:28 PM.
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Oersted motor.
This is an "Overunity Motor" design!
"Ludic science" demonstrates an Oersted motor in this video:
This kind of power coil can run all the magnet rotors you can squeeze in for the same input; Double the wire length and copper mass and you can double that number of rotors for the same input!Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-07-2016, 03:32 PM.
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Multiple spinners.
Let's say the copper plug spun the axial neo magnet from the electric buzzer spark. Standing the plug on end, we should be able to spin four rotors with their axles on the horizontal plane! Now, here's the mind bender: Doubling the length and copper mass doubles the magnetic force for the same spark input. So simply by doubling the length of the copper rod, we double the magnetic force and the possible number of rotors with the same input. This would hold true if we pulsed the copper plug with a Reed switch. This would result in eight spinning rotors for the same input, and so on untill an Overunity coefficient of performance had to be surpassed. Correct?
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Oersted Conductor
Based on Hob Nilre's test findings, I think a short thick copper rod like the one pictured below would work best as an Oersted spin conductor to maximize magnetic field strength in the "Electric buzzer" circuit, rather then a coil. We can be sure this conductor will not overheat.Last edited by Allen Burgess; 10-05-2017, 12:38 AM.
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Hob Nilre on "Electromagnnetic Force".
Hob Nilre has proven that coil turns do nothing to increase magnetic force!
Quote from Hob's Physics paper on "Electromagnetic Force":
"The amount of copper in an electromagnet is the important factor that affects the force per power ratio, not the number of turns or wire thickness. The general rule is, the more copper the greater the force".
One straight thick bar of copper will produce the same magnetic force as a coil of thin wire and many turns of the same weight!
A thick round copper hoop would bring the contacts close together end to end, but the circular form would do nothing to increase the magnetic force. Only the weight of the copper and the amount of electrical input determine the magnetic force!
The wire coil is really a hugely inefficient way to form an electromagnet, because the coil separations split up the magnet force by interrupting the field. The force is there per pound of copper and unit of input, but it's directed in a scattered fashion!Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-06-2016, 08:25 PM.
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EM Gif
Very high quality motional "Electromagnetic Wave" Gif:Last edited by Allen Burgess; 10-05-2017, 12:38 AM.
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Double the copper half the power, or twice the force!
Conclusions of Hob Nilre on his coil force tests:
"Double the copper - half the power; Or you could double the copper but same power - double the force, its just harder to measure".
These are the same results as the lesson from Steve Mark; What's the difference?
The solenoid coil wastes practically all of it's magnet strength in "Unused Field" unlike the energized magnet wire completely enclosed by permanent magnet material or field windings!
For example: Let's say we run a thick 1/8" copper wire through the center hole of a diametric neo tube magnet and seat the magnet snugly inside a factory wound coil with a core of the same dimension as the magnet tube's outside diameter. When we pulse current through the center wire, 100% of the magnetic field in the center wire is going to transfer it's strength to the output coil around the magnet. When we double the wire length through the magnet cores and double the magnets and coils, we double the output per unit of input power minus a miniscule loss to resistance in the lengthened wire, in inverse proportion to voltage. We can work a formula out to determine at what wire length this array of magnet coils goes Overunity.
Another way to do it would be to wrap a thick copper wire with a seconday coil that was kept charged and wind a tertiary output coil around those two. Then an oscillating current would be sent through the center wire, to jounce the secondary charged coil field through the third output winding. It wouldn't cost anything to keep the secondary coil charged once it was charged to full capacity to sustain the amplification field. We could meet all our energy needs if we wrapped our A.C. power transmission lines this way.
Once the charge up cost for the seconday electromagnetic coil was paid for, the output would double per unit of length for the same joule of oscillating input current to the center wire.
This TPU would consist of a thick copper wire hoop connected to the electric buzzer and two AA batteries. The seconday "Electromagnetic Coil", wrapped around it like a spring, would wire directly to a 6 volt lantern battery, and the third output winding would connect directly to compatible voltage light bulbs. Wrap it in electrical tape and Voila! A Steve Mark TPU!Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-06-2016, 12:39 AM.
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