Basic Free Energy Device

[Bob Smith]

[BroMikey]

Playing catch Up

Hi Guys Turion gave me his youtube address and here is a beauty setup.

I didn't know you had done such nice work, that is a bunch of time.

Dude that is lots good teaching to me a picture alone is worth a thousand words and videos are in the million


https://www.youtube.com/user/11Turion/videos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEZ...L6e7VDp76ScNkA

[shylo]

coils

Thanks Mike I've never seen this.
Dave did you get the generating coils put on, you must have by now, A very nice build.
artv

[altrez]

Tesla Switch

Hello All,

I have been working every night after work and the weekends on different setups and loads for the Tesla Switch that I am going to use as the power source for the Basic Free Energy Device.

Using different types of batteries and at different voltages, for example I have a 6 volt TS and also a 12 Volt TS. I have seen very interesting results for example I can use a meter and test the voltage going into my PWM and it will be 6.21 volts and the PWM output will be 6.54 volts. I can look at the current input into the PWM and it will be .114 ma and its output into battery 3 will be over .125 ma.

Once I started using a battery as the load hooked up to my PWM things got even more interesting. Taking a discharged battery and attaching it to the output of the PWM I let it charge overnight once the battery reached 6 volts I switched it with battery 3 from the TS and at that point I then switched over to a load that draws more current right now its just a simple Joule Thief the next step was to let the battery get a charge up to around 6.3 volts and set it aside rotate the TS with the original battery that was in position 3 and start the same process over again.

So with all that being said so far I have charged 2 6 volt batteries and ran a Joule Thief and have not added any extra energy to the TS its been running for 5 days with a few hours off when I switch the batteries.

At the start of this test I hooked the two 6 volt batteries up in series and ran an inverter powering a 35 watt CFL the total run time was around 13 minutes. I am going to perform the same test tonight and see if I get around the same run time.

Now let me get to my point lol . This is how I am going to build my solid state version of the Free Energy Device.

1. Tesla Switch as power source.
2. Pulse width modulator to regulate duty cycle in place of a pulse motor.
3. A Joule Thief as the generator wound with three generator coils
4. An ultra cap bank connected to target battery.
5. The best most efficient inverter I can buy.

The reason I am going in this direction for now is I can put it all together over the weekend I like the idea of trying something solid state and I have years of experience with joule thief generators.



-Altrez

[Turion]

As I keep repeating:
Motor
Generator
Flywheel
Switching
3 Battery setup

That was an early version of this build that I posted to YouTube. It has changed drastically. I have rebuilt it SEVERAL TIMES since then to overcome issues that came up as I tried to run it and get more power out of it...overcome magnetic lock, overcome Lenz issues. Yes, all 12 coils are mounted. Yes, it runs off the 3BGS setup. Yes, I can run it basically for free with the 3BGS setup. That's what I've been trying to tell you guys. THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

BUT, I have changed wiring configurations, changed core materials, changed rotors, added a weighted flywheel, used non-magnetic stainless steel (expensive) for many of the metal parts, changed dang near ANYTHING you can think of since that video was made. And some of those things have changed SEVERAL TIMES. That was my basic platform for experimentation. It doesn't even look like the same machine now...except for the little razor scooter motor that runs it. And THAT has also been modified from off the shelf. I have been working with this generator for well over a YEAR now getting it to the place I want it to be. A LOT of money has gone into this project. A lot of time. A lot of Matt's brain power, and very little of mine, except for ideas on the PHYSICAL design of the device to make it solid. The last few days I have been soldering together a circuit board that Matt designed to do switching and some other things.

I wouldn't have come here and said "put these components together and it will work" unless I had seen it working on my bench. I remember the first time I hooked up loads to it and nothing was working right. I called up Matt and sent him video of what I was seeing, and his response was that the thing was putting out so much power that it was blowing out all my resistive loads before I could even see that they were working. And he was right. It was putting out about 900 volts. I had to put a bunch of loads in series before I could see the power, and then I had to modify all the coils to put out 130 volts at the rpm the motor runs at on 12 volts.

But DON'T go to the expense of building a monster like I have built. The machine work alone for the first prototype was over a thousand dollars. Then there are the magnets, the coils, the electronics and other parts. You do NOT want to go to all that expense just to see whether or not I am full of crap.

Take a small razor scooter motor, modify it like Matt's pdf says. Add a flywheel. Take a couple coils you have lying around and a rotor with a couple neos on it and put it all together and run it on the 3BGS setup and see what you get. Bailing wire and duct tape will go a long way! And THEN start trying to modify Matt's modifications of the Razor Scooter motor, or come up with a better pulse motor!!!!!!! That is step ONE if we are going to put forward our "best" effort.

The simple setup with a STOCK motor (pulsed) should give you TWICE the output vs input and you should lose almost NOTHING on your batteries, so the motor runs for "free." When you rewind the motor according to the pdf, and still pulse it, the output will go up and the input will go down. And I happen to know Matt is working on some further modifications of the motor that he will share when he has TESTED THEM COMPLETELY.

We do not want anybody to take our word for this. We expect you to build a small demo model based on the razor scooter motor with a couple coils and a flywheel, and lets all move forward from there. We are willing to go forward together on this. I know there are better pulse motors than what I am currently using I know there are better generator configurations than what I have....and yet what I have works. Imagine what we would have if we all worked together????

Get a razor scooter motor and let's get going.

Dave

PS. I should point out that in the video I am running the setup off a modified 3BGS where you have to balance the load on the motor with a load on the inverter in order not to drain the batteries, and most folks just couldn't get the hang of this. We don't have to do that anymore. With the right motor and switching, you can run the motor with NO draw down on the primaries. (Ok, maybe a little bit, but you get to keep 98% of what the generator puts out and use the other 2% to keep the batteries topped off. )

[altrez]

Sounds like a good plan. Can't wait to see.

The best most efficient inverters a the pure sine type. They don't usually advertise efficiency so you have to go to the manuals. Look for the ones that include reasonable expectations of power. Lot of times its in chart.

Matt

Hi Matt,

I am looking on Amazon at the pure sine wave inverters they are above 90% efficacy and not that expensive. I will post pictures over the weekend of solid state the build its going to be fun.

My Energy from the vacuum Tesla Switch DvD should be in this week and from what I am hearing John gives us everything we need for a successful build. Once I have the switch working correctly I plan to buy better batteries big ones over 100 amp hour for the next step of the project.

Thanks for all your help!



-Altrez

[alvarohn]

hello

I am making something very similar, but without tesla switch as input (at least for now).

Some time ago I decided to mix the SSG with the 1984 free energy generator (motor flyweel and energizer).

I am making it small to cut costs. I have rotor with 10 magnets, 1 ssg power coil (bifilar), and then I have 6 gen coils.

Right now I am waiting for parts to build a comparator cap dump to charge batts with the output of the ssg circuit and the gen coils.

I haven't seen much info about the energizer part of the system in this thread.

When I started to build my little new machine I intended to use my gen coils with coil shorting. But after reading the advanced SG handbook I decided to explore that way first, since the energizer of the 1984 book explained in detail by Peter L in the advanced book is a very clever energizer!!!

best,

Alvaro

[altrez]

Matt,

That was so very well put. It seems most people on here that complain about not having a device to produce free energy never even pick up a meter. It takes hard work and dedication to make a dream happen.

And you are very right about focusing on one aspect and learning it fully in and out befor moving on to the next. The basic free energy device does can and will work but not without putting in some serious bench time.

I will see this decive finished each part one at a time. I will document everything I will data log everything and I will post information at each phase.

You are one of the most skilled people on this forum and I am glad that I have got the chance to get to know you a bit better.





-Altrez

[Turion]

Acceleration under load

As to this acceleration under load.

I have seen Thaine Heinz do it on video. I have seen several others do it on video, including Matt. I have done it. I have videos of my generator doing it that I could edit and show if anyone is interested.

One of the very first tests I ran was with only TWO coils in place. I wanted to show that a single coil was putting out about 130 volts at .5 amps UNDER LOAD, and I HAD 2 of those coils on the generator. I compared the output of one coil under load to the same load running off the wall plug. For those of you with a calculator, that's at LEAST 130 watts output from the two coils on the generator, and it was running on 12 volts at .4 amps after it got up to speed. So running it produced 2.7 times the input power. COP>2.7, and that was with some pretty small loads. As I said, it speeds up under load, which means BETTER performance, less amp draw and MORE OUTPUT. It does pull some amps on startup to break magnetic lock, but it does way better than that now with 12 coils, and magnetic lock is not an issue above 1200 rpm. I think on the video I measured the RPMS while it was running the load and with the other coil shorted out, and then unshorted the coil and you could see the immediate change on the tach as it slowed down.

So it WILL speed up under RESISTIVE loads. If you don't believe it does, you are just mistaken, and if you choose to argue the point, you are an idiot. Now WHY it speeds up under load , I won't argue. But if you say it doesn't you are just WRONG.

I do dispute that you need super high impedance coils to get the thing to speed up under load. There are configurations that will accomplish the same thing. I think Mr. AngusWangus showed that with his Ed Leedskalnin coils. Although that is ANOTHER way to do it, I believe Matt and I know of a third way, but that's something I'm keeping under my hat for right now.

Anyway....motor, generator, flywheel, switching, run on 3BGS setup. I'm not shutting up about this yet. And when Matt shows what he has been working so hard to bring to you guys, a whole bunch of you better just be quiet and build it before you say a word because I'm telling you, he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about.

[Sawt2]

I sure would like to see that video when you have time to post it.

As to this acceleration under load.

I have seen Thaine Heinz do it on video. I have seen several others do it on video, including Matt. I have done it. I have videos of my generator doing it that I could edit and show if anyone is interested.

One of the very first tests I ran was with only TWO coils in place. I wanted to show that a single coil was putting out about 130 volts at .5 amps UNDER LOAD, and I HAD 2 of those coils on the generator. I compared the output of one coil under load to the same load running off the wall plug. For those of you with a calculator, that's at LEAST 130 watts output from the two coils on the generator, and it was running on 12 volts at .4 amps after it got up to speed. So running it produced 2.7 times the input power. COP>2.7, and that was with some pretty small loads. As I said, it speeds up under load, which means BETTER performance, less amp draw and MORE OUTPUT. It does pull some amps on startup to break magnetic lock, but it does way better than that now with 12 coils, and magnetic lock is not an issue above 1200 rpm. I think on the video I measured the RPMS while it was running the load and with the other coil shorted out, and then unshorted the coil and you could see the immediate change on the tach as it slowed down.

So it WILL speed up under RESISTIVE loads. If you don't believe it does, you are just mistaken, and if you choose to argue the point, you are an idiot. Now WHY it speeds up under load , I won't argue. But if you say it doesn't you are just WRONG.

I do dispute that you need super high impedance coils to get the thing to speed up under load. There are configurations that will accomplish the same thing. I think Mr. AngusWangus showed that with his Ed Leedskalnin coils. Although that is ANOTHER way to do it, I believe Matt and I know of a third way, but that's something I'm keeping under my hat for right now.

Anyway....motor, generator, flywheel, switching, run on 3BGS setup. I'm not shutting up about this yet. And when Matt shows what he has been working so hard to bring to you guys, a whole bunch of you better just be quiet and build it before you say a word because I'm telling you, he knows EXACTLY what he is talking about.

[Turion]

I'm working on editing that video tonight, so I can show it. Most of the videos on my YouTube channel that are private right now were made to show somebody I have been working with something specific, and there are some parts I don't want out in the public yet. We don't need the cart before the horse. I don't have any video editing software for MAC, so will have to buy something, and before I buy anything I need to do my research, so that's my next step. But since I am usually up late, I will probably get it done tonight sometime.

Dave

Got r done

http://youtu.be/CINa0rAeubw

Please understand that these videos were NEVER INTENDED for the public.They were taken to share information with other folks I am working with, and usually for a specific purpose, not to explain everything about what we are doing. They are by no means polished productions, and I could care less. I didn't make them for YOU in the first place.

[alvarohn]

Amazing post, Matt tnx for the advice on ssg+teslaswitch.

I am looking forward to hear more about the energizer.

best,

Alvaro

[Turion]

Coils

I think at that point I also had more coils on the thing, but don't remember. I DO know that with all 12 coils it took 24 volts and a LOT of amps to break magnetic lock, but once it is up to 1200 rpm it was awesome. I have solutions for THAT problem on the next build too, but Matt found a way around it for THIS build, so we go with that for now. I will go through my videos and see what I have that I can share that doesn't give away the farm.

But like I said guys, a couple of coils will do for now to prove to yourself that this will work. JUST DO IT!

And Mattis doing some work right now that will show EVERYONE that even if your energizer is CRAP, this will STILL work because you can run your motor basically for FREE. (Ok, not QUITE, but close enough that you get almost all of your generated power to do work with.) In the case of my gen it would be over 1,000 watts of output after paying the price of keeping batteries topped off. And we haven't seen what will happen with acceleration under load with big loads. We don't know yet how much it will reduce our power consumption costs. It throws all the math formulas you THINK you know right out the window.
Dave

[Sawt2]

Thanks Dave
That is very cool.

I'm working on editing that video tonight, so I can show it. Most of the videos on my YouTube channel that are private right now were made to show somebody I have been working with something specific, and there are some parts I don't want out in the public yet. We don't need the cart before the horse. I don't have any video editing software for MAC, so will have to buy something, and before I buy anything I need to do my research, so that's my next step. But since I am usually up late, I will probably get it done tonight sometime.

Dave

Got r done

http://youtu.be/CINa0rAeubw

Please understand that these videos were NEVER INTENDED for the public.They were taken to share information with other folks I am working with, and usually for a specific purpose, not to explain everything about what we are doing. They are by no means polished productions, and I could care less. I didn't make them for YOU in the first place.

[alvarohn]

I think at that point I also had more coils on the thing, but don't remember. I DO know that with all 12 coils it took 24 volts and a LOT of amps to break magnetic lock, but once it is up to 1200 rpm it was awesome. I have solutions for THAT problem on the next build too, but Matt found a way around it for THIS build, so we go with that for now. I will go through my videos and see what I have that I can share that doesn't give away the farm.

But like I said guys, a couple of coils will do for now to prove to yourself that this will work. JUST DO IT!

And Mattis doing some work right now that will show EVERYONE that even if your energizer is CRAP, this will STILL work because you can run your motor basically for FREE. (Ok, not QUITE, but close enough that you get almost all of your generated power to do work with.) In the case of my gen it would be over 1,000 watts of output after paying the price of keeping batteries topped off. And we haven't seen what will happen with acceleration under load with big loads. We don't know yet how much it will reduce our power consumption costs. It throws all the math formulas you THINK you know right out the window.
Dave

Hello Dave, can I ask some questions?:
the gen coils are air core or iron core?
Can you explain a little more about the 1 coil shorted?
what you mean by break the magnetic lock?

best,

Alvaro