Basic Free Energy Device

[erfinder]

Turion,

Back when hot topic was acceleration under load, you challenged the community to demonstrate the acceleration under load effect using air core coils. Have you accomplished that task? If so can you demonstrate it? If not do you have any ideas why you cannot accomplish the task?

Regards

[citfta]

What amazes me is how many people want the answers but are too lazy to do any of the work. And look how many times some idiot has posted his great idea for a free energy device and wants someone else to build it. They're too lazy to even build something based on their own ideas. Everybody wants to be a genius when it comes to theory but very few are willing to test even their own ideas.

I am done wasting time for those kinds of people. I will gladly share privately with those that have shown the willingness to do some work. The loafers and free-loaders will get nothing from me.

For Bob French, check your PM's here. I can't answer your email from my present location.

Carroll

[Turion]

There's a bunch of stuff I am not yet in a position to share, but there is at least one thing I will throw out there even though I started a WHOLE THREAD on "Your Basic Coil" just to talk about this stuff and couldn't wade through the idiots to make the kind of progress I wanted. As usual, I just got together with a few folks I trust and we did the testing ourselves.

We tested welding rod, coat hanger, #12 shot, ferrite and Metglass as a generator coil core on a generator running under 4,000 RPM. While different wire configurations, higher rpm or other variables might change the results, for our purposes the ferrite was the clear winner. At higher RPM's it might not be, and I doubt we will spend the time to determine that since we are running at the lower frequencies. There are lots of kinds of ferrite and some may be better than others. We found one we like. You find yours. We wound a lot of coils to be able to put out that information, and it would have been much easier if ten different people had wound the same sized coil and tested it on the same sized rotor with the same magnets on it. But I have given up expecting that there will EVER be that level of cooperation and teamwork on this forum. The stuff we know is because we are building and testing stuff every single day. Some of it we will share.

I redid my big generator. This is the 5th time I have rebuilt it and it costs a couple hundred dollars each time to modify the parts and have them machined to new specs or replaced. Right now it is running on a razor scooter motor at 1800 RPM. It is running on 12 volts at 6 amps or 72 watts. It is outputting 170 volts DC after the bridge at 1.5 amps per coil, and there are 12 coils. YOU do the math. With the windings I have on the coils it requires 24 volts to get it up to 2800 RPM, at which point it speeds up under load. I have not done any output testing at the higher RPM because I haven't had TIME. Trying to figure out the best way to convert high voltage DC to lower voltage higher amps has been my priority.

Not only that, but we have another project, the 3BGS, that is showing results with the modifications to the basic circuit we have made that are even better than this generator, so I get sidetracked with that trying to put together a decent demo to show what we have.

And then there is Matt's motor project which SHOULD run itself and produce usable power.

Free energy is out there. You just have to do the work to get it. Oh, and it isn;t really FREE. You will spend time and money to get there.

[Wistiti]

[Turion]

Response

Wistiti,
Now you sound like me!!

When I have something that has been thoroughly tested and iron clad results that I can post detailed instructions for others to replicate, you will see it here. Until then, I will continue to work behind the scenes with a few people I trust trying to improve on what we have.

[Wistiti]

if you have something to share..... .....just share!

[Turion]

WW,
If you are out there, thanks for everything. I finally figured out the magnetic polarity. It does everything you said it would do. Simply amazing.

[Turion]

Boost circuit

Don't forget that the boost circuit allows you to keep the voltage higher than the charge battery. When you have two batteries in series and then a third battery you are trying to charge, the voltage hitting that third battery needs to be at LEAST 2 volts above the battery voltage. So if battery 3 is at 12 volts, you BETTER be hitting it with 14, or you are NOT charging it in a way that is good for the battery. If it is at 12.8, you better be hitting it with 14.8. The boost circuit allows you to do this without too much waste.

What I am looking at now is basically a "home made" shunt motor run on the 3BGS with the boost circuit. I am trying the rotor windings and stator windings in both series and parallel. This machine has TWO rotors. One for the motor, containing no magnets, and one for the generator which does have magnets.

The generator coils must be disconnected from the storage device when the load is running off it. High impedance coils produce high voltage. The circuit produces the amps. Worry about getting your voltage up and let the amps take care of themselves.

[mainsen]

Hi liber,
thank u very much for the info. I will try to add a slave coil too and see if it improves efficiency =)
kind regards

[liber63]

Hi mainsen
I used the exact components of the photo i posted, only the drive battery was a 10 Ah, over three years dead and revived a bit (meaning i would be lucky if it had 60% capacity) so I used another one of the same kind (but even less capacity). Totally two parallel drive batteries. But I think it mentions somewhere that the system might work better with 24volt drive and implies good, not dead batteries! Charging batteries were 4 7Ah. I used two coils one bifilar, one slave! The specs exactly as in the book. Maybe few more turns on the bifilar. The amps from the drive were around 550miliamps. I count and found that I used much less energy from this system than using my normal charger CTEK MXS 5.

[mainsen]

Alexcor+Turion system

Hi Dave
I have tried recently Alexkor’s Self-Charging Circuit from chapter 6 of PJKchapters. I did not have the same size of batteries as Alexkor's but it did work for me. In my tests I only needed two prime batteries in parellel in order not to be discharged a lot. So I thought to have three bank batteries, 36v to 24v like 3bgs, 24v to 12v and 12 to 36 or 48v like Alexkor's. I am sure it 'll work fine, as I have tried the two different systems and find them very satisfying. Especially if you don't load very much and leave some time for the batteries to recover and then charge them. This way I've done tests with double gain just from discharging and charging after 2 hours.
I really like to see and work and test your new idea. Just let us know which direction. Does it have any similarities with Carlos Benitez?
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Hi liber63,

nice to see your post, because thats exactly what I also wanted to try, Turions 3 Battery system combined with Alexkors BEMF charger and a 4th (or more) battery charged by it.
Sadly my Alexkor seems to perform underunity, though it works great for refreshing and charging batteries. May I ask you about the specs of ur Alexkor, you use only the bifilar coil or additional slave coils too? Wire diameter, turns? With what battery you drive it, what batteries (and how many in series) do you charge with it?

kind regards,
mainsen

[Sawt2]

RUE,
Working on it.

Sawt2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-anNcJ_4-LM

Turion
Thank you

[liber63]

Hi Dave
I have tried recently Alexkor’s Self-Charging Circuit from chapter 6 of PJKchapters. I did not have the same size of batteries as Alexkor's but it did work for me. In my tests I only needed two prime batteries in parellel in order not to be discharged a lot. So I thought to have three bank batteries, 36v to 24v like 3bgs, 24v to 12v and 12 to 36 or 48v like Alexkor's. I am sure it 'll work fine, as I have tried the two different systems and find them very satisfying. Especially if you don't load very much and leave some time for the batteries to recover and then charge them. This way I've done tests with double gain just from discharging and charging after 2 hours.
I really like to see and work and test your new idea. Just let us know which direction. Does it have any similarities with Carlos Benitez?
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[Turion]

RUE,
Working on it.

Sawt2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-anNcJ_4-LM

[Sawt2]

I've been too busy with ongoing builds to post much here for the last month, although I have started to post on several occasions and thought better of throwing stuff out there when I am still in the middle of experimenting and documenting results. But I hope I can focus at least a few of you on the use of potential difference as we have discussed it on this and the 3BGS thread to get you to think about the following:

Can a reservoir be charged from a dipole (specifically a battery) over and over again without decreasing the energy in the dipole. As I understand it, as I have seen (one way only) there is a way to make this happen, and as I have found in the literature, there are at least FOUR different ways to make that happen. Two of the ways are rather difficult, but two of them are fairly basic, although I am sure a butt load of research would have to be done to nail down the specifics. Once charged, if the reservoir is disconnected from the source, it would be capable of running loads without this reflecting back to the source. By that I mean it will not deplete the energy in the source.

If we can consistently accomplish this charging, then a thousand wires could be hooked up to that very same battery to charge a thousand reservoirs, because all these reservoirs would charge on the potential difference, and none of this would adversely affect the source.

My reason for posting this is to see if anyone else is headed in this direction, has done the research, and sees the potential. Or if it will be just one or two of us who walk this path.

Don't be shy guys. This is the key to the biggest lock on the planet.

I have been working on it, i think i am heading the same direction you are, I remember someone saying "just don't let it go to ground" that stuck with me for some reason. I believe there is a way to get the "potential difference" (3bgs) moving in such a way, that as long as you keep it moving you can then tap into it and use it without depleting it. I will show it as I see it more consistently. That's what i've been doing. I would like to wind a motor like Matt had displayed earlier on in this process, do you know if the videos are still available?