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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by machinealive View Post
    Hello TheoriaApophasis
    Edit: Btw, how much you paying tinman, lol!

    Mike

    Hes a curious critter as any GOOD experimenter is. I DID offer him he could stay at my vacation home if he wanted to.

    IF HE KEEPS DOING what he is doing, he will pay himself BIG TIME with a wholly new device the lemmings will beat his door down to buy the rights to.


    Ive got a few experiments that have kept me up for DAYS already, the results from one (not bio) are just some seriously stunning stuff.

    And I created wholly new type of vortex viewer that I need to test to see if it keeps its stability and how it reacts to heat etc etc.




    that was a 2 day old pic of the alfalfa sprouts, NOW, the difference on the most recent batch is rather enormous.
    LOTS OF NORTH POLE seeds didnt spout AT ALL, and theyre puny and sickly.
    The South pole are happy and BIG and green, and fluffy and healthy.



    Ive got the reason why N and S affects genetic growth SO differently.. (at least in seeds and growth in plants), its hyper-logical, and you'll LOVE the answer when you read it.
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  • Dog-One
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    Originally posted by TheoriaApophasis View Post
    I inspired this guy over on another forum with the "magnetic vortex" idea.......


    He seems to be a great chap and experimenter !
    Please give him all the assistance you can. This is powerful research that we can all learn a bunch from.

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  • machinealive
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    Hello TheoriaApophasis

    I don't doubt what your saying, there are lots of books on electro horticulture, although I have never done any experimenting myself.

    I bet you have an amazing library just on this subject .

    I am looking forward to reading your 3rd edition. Plant growth, Fibonacci, golden spirals, magnetic vortices, great stuff Ken.

    I hope you will consider making a hard copy someday.

    Edit: Btw, how much you paying tinman, lol!

    Mike

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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    More more more more proof


    people (originally skeptical), experimenting on their own, and PROVING IT













    Ohh, and by the way:

    You really wanna blow your mind ......(yes, Rawles and Davis reported on this 30 years ago)

    Watch how much faster SEEDS sprout and grow if placed on top of a LARGE MAGNET SOUTH POLE than on the north pole.


    North pole growing Alfalfa sprouts sprout SLOWER, WEAKER, and more PUNY than South Pole exposed alfalfa ..........(just one example)

    HOW RADICAL a difference you ask? >>>>>>>>>>> A LOT <<<<<<<<<<<<
    I have done the experiment many times, heres yet another example pictured below Im doing.

    Think Im lying, anyone here TRY IT YOURSELF.......... always works.......see pic below, UNDER THE CLOTH (you cannot see) is a big 2 inch by 2 inch by 1 inch magnet



    You cannot really tell at this angle, but the GREEN (south pole) spouts have a LOT more volume and are more robust and bigger, and when they start growing, the first 2 days, they are ALLLLLLLWAYS much faster
    (a LOT FASTER)
    And..............if you expose tomato seeds to the North pole for a couple days (before planting), you end up with tomatoes that have VERY LOW ACID content. (test it yourself).

    I know the reason WHY this happens (and have proof) in seeds and plants, but I wont publish it until the 3rd edition of the book.




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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by machinealive View Post
    Hello Ken

    Those were neat videos. Have you placed an electromagnet on a CRT monitor, what does it look like compared to pm?

    Thanks again!
    Mike


    I have, and you get "nothing" (so to say)


    NO conjugate field reciprocation with Electromagnet vs. Permanent magnet .....because:

    A: electromagnet is "driving" the magnetism via electricity, >>>>NOT dielectricity<<<<, as is the case in a PM, of which the dielectricity is 'driving' the vortex from the inter-atomic made coherent into the incommensurable geometry of the PM

    B: Electromagnet is spatially divergent IN/AS a coil, and does NOT (almost the exact opposite) have the properties of dielectricity as found in a PM which is "driving" a genuine PM !!








    hey!!!!! Check out his two new videos he just made!!!








    UPDATE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    Youtube user TinManPower


    He calls it the "Magnetic vortex Aqua motor"




    He gives me credit for the idea/inspiration at 2:05 in the Video !!

    I CAN SEE 'HIDDEN' APPLICATIONS FOR THIS!!!!!!!



    Sweet stuff !


    Hes made 4 VERY NICE VIDEOS based upon reading my book about magnetic vortex (see his 4 most recent videos!!)











    People been asking for me for this diagram below, I wonder why I didnt put it in the 2nd edition!!! Dohhh !


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  • machinealive
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    Hello Ken

    Those were neat videos. Have you placed an electromagnet on a CRT monitor, what does it look like compared to pm?

    Thanks again!
    Mike

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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by back View Post
    Hello MR Wheeler
    Back

    I inspired this guy over on another forum with the "magnetic vortex" idea.......


    I posted this book over on another forum, and a neat Australian tinkerer and electrically minded chap posted 2 very nice videos just today......


    He electrifies a magnet in a tank, and zaps his magnet and then tinkers some more, and proves you cant get a vortex from the same condition (which I knew) from mere steel slug.


    Then he makes a second video using an electromagnet in a TANK, and gets (of course), no vortex.


    Lovely to see his great videos !!

    magnetic vortex with genuine permanent magnet


    NO results of a Magnetic vortex when using same conditions with an electromagnet




    He wonders why he gets no vortex with the electromagnet, but TONS of (he calls them a tornado) vortex using a permanent magnet!


    I told him:

    NO conjugate field reciprocation with EM vs. PM because:


    A: electromagnet is "driving" the magnetism via electricity, >>>>NOT dielectricity<<<<, as is the case in a PM, of which the dielectricity is 'driving' the vortex from the inter-atomic made coherent into the incommensurable geometry of the PM

    B: Electromagnet is spatially divergent IN/AS a coil, and does NOT (almost the exact opposite) have the properties of dielectricity as found in a PM which is "driving" a genuine PM !!



    He seems to be a great chap and experimenter !
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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by back View Post
    Long time lurker here. I want to thank you for all the work that you have posted. Very deep for me. My current main intrest is the interaction between magnetic flux and electro magnet flux. I have read that they do interact such that electro magnetic can bend the permanent magnet. Could you point me in the direction to study this more?

    Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko, some of his books, MAINLY get both of ERIC P DOLLARDS works at ERICPDOLLARD.COM

    The book about all this is free, you can get it here:
    The missing secrets of magnetism and the geometry of electromagnetism.  20 years of research into magnetism and fields



    You have to understand that all 4 fundamental forces, electricity, gravitational, magnetism, and dielectricity are just 4 Ether/Aether modalities.


    All magnets are "Driven" by dielectricity from electrification, (thats all in the book link above)

    For a LONG TIME its been called it the "pinch effect of a magnetic field"






    Now guess what is "doing the pinching", thats right, dielectricity.



    Someone asked me on another board if the "dielectric inertial plane was pinching the magnetism????"

    I said Yes, pretty much like that. When a magnet is created and electrified .......The person asked for an analogy.........So here is what I came up with-

    ROFL !!!!

    snake is the inertial plane, the mouse the magnetism ROFL





    As you can see below, you can derive any of them from the Aether "plane"







    Polarity = Spatial = CW/CCW
    ...........these are the mental fahrt of human (MIS)understanding


    Ultimately there is NO "polarity" in a "magnet" only field reciprocation and MOVEMENT along lowest pressure gradients, of which FIELDS in their instantaneous attributional creation, generates the ATTRIBUTE OF SPACE , that being polarization.

    Chains of causation:
    1. Field(s)
    2. space
    3. polarization


    However, logically one can say that 2 and 3 are co-eternal


    Space is an attribute of a FIELD, there are no "fields in space", only SPACE as an attribute, and posterior (in creation) from FIELDS.

    This is why Einstein was a mental midget , he REIFIED the attribute of FIELDS , that being SPACE as "something" that "does things" and "acts on things"

    Tesla talked about this EXACTLY AND SPECIFICALLY, and why he verbally slapped the hell out of Einstein in his writings.

    Tesla described relativity as "a beggar wrapped in purple whom ignorant people take for a king." The theory, "he said, "wraps all these errors and fallacies and clothes them in magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king. Its exponents are very brilliant men, but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists. Not a single one of the relativity propositions has been proved." - N. Tesla (Fragments of Olympian
    Gossip. by Nikola Tesla regarding Einstein)


    Tesla said of theory of relativity: "a mass of error and deceptive ideas violently opposed to the teachings of great men of science of the past and even to common sense." - N. Tesla


    The day humans "see" this fact, PROGRESS will be made.

    Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko's works and formulas prove this fact, HOWEVER (horribly!!) he doesnt ever realize itDIELECTRIC current
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  • back
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    Hello MR Wheeler

    Long time lurker here. I want to thank you for all the work that you have posted. Very deep for me. My current main intrest is the interaction between magnetic flux and electro magnet flux. I have read that they do interact such that electro magnetic can bend the permenant magnet. Could you point me in the direction to study this more?

    Thanks in advance
    Again thanks for your hard work
    Bless
    Back

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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    Very engaging sir! Thanks for all the time you've taken to answer my queries.
    Take care,
    Bob
    I hope these new pics "clear things up" some for you .





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  • Bob Smith
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    Very engaging sir! Thanks for all the time you've taken to answer my queries.
    Take care,
    Bob

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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    As I understand it, the dielectric plane prevents the magnetic lines of force from moving from one end of a magnet to the other, thereby forcing them to the center of the magnet.

    No, not the case, as I mention above.

    Centrifugal magnetism NOT RETURNING to the other side of the centripetal is due to INTERMEDIATE pressure centrifugal (from the intermediate zone of EVERY SIDE of any magnet) pressures which do not have sufficient velocity to get beyond the edge of the centripetal inertial plane of reintegration and do not make full reciprocation.


    These intermediate centrifugal pressures (as easily proven using a magnetometer) emanate from the zone between the EDGE (max velocity centrifugal) and the center (returning centripetal) of each face of the 'magnet'.

    Depending on gauss, physical magnetic geometry, and a few other variables, only a small portion of centrifugal magnetism DOES NOT (your word, "prevent") make it to the other side and reintegrates centripetally.

    This view is wrongly seen by some to "prove a magnet has 4 poles", but this is merely a misunderstanding of pressure gradient variations and field icommensurability where all movement is mediated by lowest seeking pressure reciprocation and reintegration.

    I speak about this in the book.

    As for intermediate pressure magnetic reciprocation, .....think of a sick jumper (low pressure centrifugal magnetism) who, upon leaping, smacks into the fence wall (inertial plane) face-first instead of making it (around and over) to the other side.





    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    What if we were to momentarily increase the polarity of the magnet at each end with some kind of pulse... Would this push against the dielectric plane be reciprocated by a counter-push from the dielectric plane?
    You cannot increase the polarity of the magnetism ALONE

    The "magnet" is being 'driven' by the dielectric inertial plane, the entire 'engine' of the (so-called) magnet is powered by the massive disequilibrium between the magneto-dielectricity.

    Pushing "like poles" together (without a LOT of details) does distort the dielectric plane.

    Its also easy to do with electric shock from even a 9V battery, because you can see the results afterwards with a magnetic velocity viewing film, after which the inertial plane looks like its been warped like a bicycle wheel thats been in a wreck



    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    And the kicker... can this counter-push be harvested to do strange and wonderful things?
    To answer that, I suggest you read the end of this thread

    However it requires a few more devices and "things" (no comment) to do this.

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  • Bob Smith
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    Thank you very much TA for your thoughtful, detailed reply. I've downloaded Boscovitch's work you cited, and did some reading up on him. I didn't realize he was a preeminent scientist, philosopher and theologian of his time. I'll endeavor to wade in to his work.

    Quick question:
    As I understand it, the dielectric plane prevents the magnetic lines of force from moving from one end of a magnet to the other, thereby forcing them to the center of the magnet. What if we were to momentarily increase the polarity of the magnet at each end with some kind of pulse... Would this push against the dielectric plane be reciprocated by a counter-push from the dielectric plane? And the kicker... can this counter-push be harvested to do strange and wonderful things?

    Okay, gotta get back to work. Wife's got me on a tight schedule stripping and staining furniture. That's what holidays are for, right?
    Bob

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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    TA
    So we have basically a paradox:
    The binding of spatial-polarized with counterspatial-radial forces.
    Paradox is really too much of a strong word, I have only found it to be hyper-rational and uber-logical.

    "paradox" , connotatively is (bit of humor) where a dog and a cat would "naturally want to mate".

    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    And, if I understand correctly, this paradoxical binding of seemingly opposing forces is the condition without which (sine qua non) all matter cannot exist.
    As per the "magnet" (having so been electrified in its creation) has merely and GREATLY SO (especially in the Neo-iron-boron lattice) amplified what naturally goes on in the inter-atomic under much 'tighter' equilibrium.


    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    What I am seeing, though, is not so much opposition, but rather a kind of harmonized interaction of forces with its own mysterious beauty and truth that beckons the knower to forge his/her way out of the restlessness of unknowing in order to more fully apprehend the great symphony (to borrow from Plotinus) that characterizes all that is.
    Since perspectively it is both perfect harmony and opposition. We are both agreeing on 2 attributes of ONE magneto-dielectric principle. Yes.

    My premise on magnetism and the nature of magneto-dielectricity at the inter-atomic, and inverse-sphere mutual field conjugation also hyper-logically explains the well know atomic orbital geometries which Quantum in its quackery illogically explains with nonsense and pixie dust.

    This SAME geometry is 100% no different than multiplicative formations of field views looking DOWN thru standard AC street lines.






    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    Not sure if I got it quite right, but very much intrigued and engaged. Thanks for sharing your insights.
    Seems that you do



    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    Edit: Mind taking off in the midst of chores around the house... What I see with this envisioning of magnetism is the basis for a shift in understanding the nature of everything (epistemic shift) - one that for me is integrative and interrelational in many areas.

    Did you just say that, or did I??? Wonderful, lovely, divine, sublime!


    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    Now, I believe I am beginning to understand more fully EPD's deep appreciation for music, especially the baroque music of Bach (I think it was), and his captivating description of his experience at the organ recital during the alignment of the planets some years ago. Crossing that epistemic threshold (threshold into a new way of knowing) enabled him to apprehend beauty, truth and order more fully and completely around him. Perhaps this was Tesla's
    Ive been telling others in the other thread, you HAVE to read "Tesla's Bible" (the picture of him where is hand is laying on a book), Roger Bosckovich "Theory of Natural Philosophy"




    There is a wholly lost "thinking art" called retroduction which the Platonists used, and nearly 100% of all the insanely brilliant stuff that came after 500 C.E. was inspired by reading Plotinus, Proclus, Plato, Damascius, Syrianus, the PERIPHYSEON, Jacob Boehme (much later).


    Tesla said something like (paraphrasing here) ........"Poor Edison!!! All those years trying to perfect a light bulb, if he (only used my method of logic) he could have done it all in no time!!!"
    Tesla , his guru Boskovich and others used a wholly lost art of retroductive thinking / approach.


    useful but inferior:
    Deduction:
    I heard so and so say she dropped the needle over there, and bob said the needle was 4" long, so we know what to look for, wind speed indicates since it was dropped from 5 feet up, it should have fallen on THAT side of the haystack.

    Induction:

    Well, theres a needle in a haystack, it was last seen over there on that side, needles are heavy, so Im going to go looking over there for it

    Superior in every way: (Tesla's method)
    RETRODUCTION / ABDUCTION:
    I know the properties of a needle, I know the properties of Hay...... watch this!
    lights a match......POOOF......!! All is gone in a second in a giant flame

    Theres the &@**$& needle!!!! Hay burns, metal needles dont.

    Problem solved
    ..........(deduction and induction are still looking in the hay)


    Deduction and induction are looking in a murky tub for a gold coin (wisdom, insight, invention, solution).
    Retroduction says "scr3w all this nonsense" and pulls the plug and taa-daa, there's the coin.



    Peace, lux et veritas
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  • Bob Smith
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    TA
    So we have basically a paradox:
    The binding of spatial-polarized with counterspatial-radial forces.

    And, if I understand correctly, this paradoxical binding of seemingly opposing forces is the condition without which (sine qua non) all matter cannot exist.

    What I am seeing, though, is not so much opposition, but rather a kind of harmonized interaction of forces with its own mysterious beauty and truth that beckons the knower to forge his/her way out of the restlessness of unknowing in order to more fully apprehend the great symphony (to borrow from Plotinus) that characterizes all that is.

    Not sure if I got it quite right, but very much intrigued and engaged. Thanks for sharing your insights.

    Bob

    Edit: Mind taking off in the midst of chores around the house... What I see with this envisioning of magnetism is the basis for a shift in understanding the nature of everything (epistemic shift) - one that for me is integrative and interrelational in many areas. Now, I believe I am beginning to understand more fully EPD's deep appreciation for music, especially the baroque music of Bach (I think it was), and his captivating description of his experience at the organ recital during the alignment of the planets some years ago. Crossing that epistemic threshold (threshold into a new way of knowing) enabled him to apprehend beauty, truth and order more fully and completely around him. Perhaps this was Tesla's great gift (and burden) as well.
    OK back to chores. Crack the whip... Yes dear...
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