Just magnetic fields

[Hrothgar]

The push and the pull

Hey Barbosi,

I tried sliding a magnet down the side of large copper tube and seemed to give same effect, but I need a sheet of copper to really see if same effect happens. Not only does aluminum show a difference in direction as magnet slides down for each pole, confirming opposite curved lines, but the fact that one side sticks better also confirms that the electron fields in aluminum also are curved in a particular direction. Aluminum has one electron in it outer shell, it has spin(curve), it has to match the curve of the magnet pole, I believe.
I also noticed that the magnet seems to be trying to flip to the side that sticks, when it falls.

Machine

I see a magnet as I would a water pump in that on one end you have an increased pressure and on the intake side a vacuum trying to be filled. I have no expectation of a south having an symmetrical field as the north. The main reason I see for nice tight toroid representations is the high resistance of space and the close proximity of the intake. This suggests it's quite possible to have different reaction strengths depending on the pole involved.

[machinealive]

Hello guys

So I had the same results with copper, same pole falls off. When I pay attention to that experiment, I notice that the side that is attracted to the South Pole of a compass, the side that sticks to the aluminum or copper plate, I noticed the back lifts as it slides, the front is attracted. And the North Pole is the opposite, the front lifts, the back sticks, and the magnet falls.

Machine

[barbosi]

I have 2 compasses and one of them is pointing South
I guess one I can use to go in the woods, and the other to return home

Well, the moral of this is "use the same measuring stick".

[shylo]

Magnetic fields

Barbosi, Excellent thread,..I think the biggest mistake everybody makes is that, you need to use steel in your coils to increase the strength of the magnetic flow with-in the windings.
The steel just locks-up the magnetic field, it concentrates it with-in the steel.
Let the magnetic field flow ,don't restrict it.
Sorry just had to say.
artv

[thx1138]

Hello thx1138, what device are you refering to?

US PATENT 685,957 APPARATUS FOR THE UTILIZATION OF RADIANT ENERGY
Tesla Patent 685,957 - Apparatus for the Utilization of Radiant Energy

[barbosi]

the presence at best, not the motion

[barbosi]

The legendary Stephen Hawking after stating in his website (Into a Black Hole - Stephen Hawking)

People have searched for mini black holes of this mass, but have so far, not found any. This is a pity, because if they had, I would have got a Nobel prize.

declares that 'There are no black holes'



Time to find some other role models. How about ourselves?

[thx1138]

the presence at best, not the motion

We can easily admit that at each magnet poles there must be a flow...

pi

[barbosi]

When we speak of man, we have a conception of humanity as a whole, and before applying scientific methods to, the investigation of his movement we must accept this as a physical fact. But can anyone doubt to-day that all the millions of individuals and all the innumerable types and characters constitute an entity, a unit? Though free to think and act, we are held together, like the stars in the firmament, with ties inseparable. These ties cannot be seen, but we can feel them. I cut myself in the finger, and it pains me: this finger is part of my. I see a friend hurt, and it hurts me, too: my friend and I are one. And now I see stricken down an enemy, a lump of matter which, of all the lumps of matter in the universe, I care least for, and it still grieves me. Does this not prove that each of us is only part of a whole?
For ages this idea has been proclaimed in the consummately wise teachings of religion, probably not alone as a means of insuring peace and harmony among men, but as a deeply founded truth. The Buddhist expresses it in one way, the Christian in another, but both say the same: We are all one. Metaphysical proofs are, however, not the only ones which we are able to bring forth in support of this idea. Science, too, recognizes this connectedness of separate individuals, though not quite in the same sense as it admits that the suns, planets, and moons of a constellation are one body, and there can be no doubt that it will be experimentally confirmed in times to come, when our means and methods for investigating psychical and other states and phenomena shall have been brought to great perfection. Still more: this one human being lives on and on. The individual is ephemeral, races and nations come and pass away, but man remains. Therein lies the profound difference between the individual and the whole. Therein, too, is to be found the partial explanation of many of those marvelous phenomena of heredity which are the result of countless centuries of feeble but persistent influence.

If one wonders what all that has to do with our presence in this forum or topic of this thread, I have to say it again: you cannot have the apple without the kernel. And that core is the dirt where the seed will unfold.

Thank you.

[machinealive]

Hey Barbosi

Although it is not absolutely related to what your getting at, I cant help but think of Dirac

This was from Hotson's paper, you can look up part 2&3 if your interested, I thought this was a really good paper when I first read it, long ago now.
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf

[barbosi]

When these curved lines reach the equator which divides the two poles, they reverse and repeat their curvature as though reflected by a mirror.

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Opinions?

[Hrothgar]

fig 22

fig 21 not 22 is pretty much how I've been picturing what an AC wave looks like. for a while. Orbit radius represents potential voltage, angle of attack and decay hertz and field density represents current.

[thx1138]

Hey Barbosi

Although it is not absolutely related to what your getting at, I cant help but think of Dirac

This was from Hotson's paper, you can look up part 2&3 if your interested, I thought this was a really good paper when I first read it, long ago now.
http://openseti.org/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf

Excellent. Thank you. I found parts 2 & 3. I'm about half way through part 2. It's taking me, a layman, some time to grasp it. But it seems to me that it is, indeed, directly related to what we are discussing.

If I am reading it correctly, what is now being called dark matter/energy could also be termed COLD matter/energy, analogous to negative Kelvin temperatures (and that's really, really cold ). Or the yin universe to our yang universe or vice versa, it all being one universe.

Thanks again. I need to finish it and read it a couple of more times and see if or how it ties into Harold Aspden's work although at first pass this seems more complete.

[barbosi]

http://ia350627.us.archive.org/2/ite...00abbogoog.pdf) we find at page 170 the early experiment describing the phenomena.
See also the attached picture.

Related to this, Leedskalnin's "discovery" which was not his, there were applications based on the same concept, and one was revolutionizing computer evolution: the memory.

MAGNETIC CORES - PART I - PROPERTIES - YouTube

[barbosi]

While double semicircle forming a toroidal core have this interesting property - maintaining both magnetization and "polarity", that is not applicable to all cores.

Here is attached another case where the magnetic core behaves differently.

Depending of the desired effect, different cores can be used for different purpose. All I'm saying is that there is room for a lot of applications and core's geometry defines the outcome.