Symmetric versus Asymmetric Electromagnetic Systems

[thugugly]

Hey UFO

Great posts UFO. Without the mechanical background, I knew but never really understood why (never thought about it much I guess), why the counter-force against our input developed in an alternator. So its because the coils that are not getting a voltage drop across them are still conducting the induced current (opposing)because they are in connected in series or parallel.
It hard to believe it is that simple. Keep them isolated.
So we have to use pairs of seperate coils. How many pairs are you using?, are the opposite coils same length?, do they feed into a common capacitor bank?

Maybe I'm totally off here?

Thanks so much UFO

Thug

[Ufopolitics]

Yes, agree..ZPE

Is sad that Tesla's dream was crushed by the industial complex that he enabled to vastly increase their empires.
Being very bitter in this quote is understandable and is cruel fate that he did not implement PURE Radiant devices before his well known, still used AC motors/generators.

Zero

Hello ZPE,

It is indeed sad...however, Tesla's legacy to our world will re create the Asymmetrical School of Engineering back again, and this time stronger than before, applying all the state of the art tech available now days.
Of this statement above I love the final paragraph, which is the one we belong now to take into effect and make it a reality.

After all this black and gray clouds are over and gone..it will come the "Judgement Days"...passing for all the required ridiculization, condemned and combated to exhaustion on our side.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[ZeropointEnergy]

"...It is not a dream, it is a simple feat of scientific electrical engineering, only expensive-blind, faint-hearted, doubting world!...Humanity is not yet sufficiently advanced to be willingly led by the discoverer's keen searching sense.But who knows?
Perhaps it is better in this present world of ours that a revolutionary idea or invention instead of being helped and patted, be hampered and ill-treated in its adolescence-by want of means, by selfish interest, pedantry, stupidity and ignorance; that will be attacked and stifled; that it pass through bitter trials and tribulations, through the strife of commercial existence. So do we get our light. So all that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed- only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle..."


Nikola Tesla (At the end of his dream for Wardenclyffe)

Is sad that Tesla's dream was crushed by the industial complex that he enabled to vastly increase their empires.
Being very bitter in this quote is understandable and is cruel fate that he did not implement PURE Radiant devices before his well known, still used AC motors/generators.

Zero

[Ufopolitics]

End of Wardenclyffe Tower...

"...It is not a dream, it is a simple feat of scientific electrical engineering, only expensive-blind, faint-hearted, doubting world!...Humanity is not yet sufficiently advanced to be willingly led by the discoverer's keen searching sense.But who knows?
Perhaps it is better in this present world of ours that a revolutionary idea or invention instead of being helped and patted, be hampered and ill-treated in its adolescence-by want of means, by selfish interest, pedantry, stupidity and ignorance; that will be attacked and stifled; that it pass through bitter trials and tribulations, through the strife of commercial existence. So do we get our light. So all that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed- only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle..."


Nikola Tesla (At the end of his dream for Wardenclyffe)

[Dave45]

The same is true for mechanical systems as well as electromagnetic systems.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/11282-awarded-machine-multiply-force-motor-free-energy-2.html#post199036

[Dave45]

The problem is, is that there has to be ccw flow as well as cw flow, they will not flow parallel with each other, they are two separate monopoles that when separated will only flow with like angular direction. When combined they form the magnetic field as we see it, when separated they are cold and hot electricity.
If you do not allow for one side in your build it will hinder and oppose flow through the system.
Its like a stream flowing that forks in to a Y if both can flow everything is fluid motion but if one side is dammed it will back up and oppose both flows.

[boguslaw]

Electric field longitudinal wave is flowing and it's the same as sound except it is aether which is the medium, not matter (mass). Then charge must be condensed aether and it slowdown the flow. Or something like that, but surely electricity is a sound-like flow.

[Ufopolitics]

Original Maxwell Equations

Aether Flow -- The True Electric Current?

www.zpenergy.com/downloads/Orig_maxwell_equations.pdf

[Ufopolitics]

Symmetric Generators brief Review...

A Generator contains (basically and briefly) three circuits.

1- The Stator Field: Stator meaning, it always maintains a steady static, magnetic field polarity. They could be Rotary, where the electrical feeding is done through continuous slip rings contacts. Or Stators could be "non movable", more likely structurally set in the outside of the embodiment.

2-The Generating Fields: They are located opposite facing the Stator Fields, wherever they would be, In or Out.

3-The Exciter Fields: They are in charge to keep feeding "linear" current to Stators via the slip rings, rectified by a couple of diodes, in order to always get DC on them. And most of times they are double opposite coils not to "interrupt" the sequence in either position of the magnetic poles. They are located in between the Generating Fields, facing the Stator Fields.

First thing wrong In Symmetric generators:The generating fields are connected in a multi-filar heavy gauge wire (14-16) depending on output spec's, BUT always interconnected between them in an array that could be parallel or series. This connections derive in a negative performance, because the fields that are not being induced in that "momentum" that stator is NOT passing by, receive current from the ones being induced, therefore they magnetize against rotation, create drag and magnetic friction, besides reducing output because their electrical consumption. Here is the main reason why, the more we add "Loads" the more this generators oppose to our "Prime Mover"...

If we look at all Nikola Tesla Generators and in general all his Electro-Dynamic Machines. He ALWAYS states to use Independently connected coils sets in Pairs or Groups of Pairs (why in pairs?...well to satisfy the positioning of the Static Fields at the 180 degrees timing ). He uses dual or more -according to set-up- output slip rings for each group of generating fields. Further on, this way to interconnect the Generating Fields allows to "exchange" coil components with a Motor Assembly in a timely sequenced fashion that He also, nicely displays in every angle of rotation to fulfill the whole 360 degrees...

Now, We will NEVER be able to make this happen, to accomplish this extremely important "exchange of components" in ANY Symmetrical Arrangement, simple as that, Ladies and Gentlemen!!

Second thing I see wrong with Symmetry in Generator arrangement is to "Linearly Feed" the Stator Fields at all times, when they could be easily Pulsed, therefore, obtaining the Natural Response from our Nature to energize the Generating Coils while we give a "brake" an Idle to our Stator Feeding process. This Opposite Nature response, instead of creating drag, it could assist rotation, if, set up in a convenient and preconceived fashion.

Now, the arrangement of a typical Alternator in any given vehicle is even worst, related to the way the Stator displays its magnetic field at the whole 360 degrees based on the Spider design, and "On" at ALL Times...but I guess it does not matter...if we are using a heavy muscle big HP Gas Engine...Right?
Well, this fact adds enormous drag on our engines, creating our "Idling RPM's" at very high rates...but it doesn't matter either...we just add more Gas to it and problem solved...


Thank You and regards to all


Ufopolitics

[ZeropointEnergy]

Tesla Quote

This is my favorite quote of the Master of Radiant Energy and have to show my respect




Regards
Zero

[JumpingFlea]

Newbie to this thread .Much to learn.
Just wondering if
tesla s electric car may have been driven by an asymmetrical motor powered by the medium
Cheers Flea

[Sanskara316]

Thanks Ufo for starting this thread, Just just a beginner in electronics, electromagnetics.Zero knowledge , A good start in learning Assymetrical Systems. thanks

[Ufopolitics]

Tesla for ever

Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.

Nikola Tesla

"Science is but a perversion of itself unless it has, as its ultimate goal

the betterment of humanity."


Nikola Tesla

[Ufopolitics]

Amen

Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.

Nikola Tesla

Thanks Boguslaw!

Love those quotes from DR Nikola Tesla!

Amen to them!

Regards


Ufopolitics

[boguslaw]

Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.

Nikola Tesla