Symmetric versus Asymmetric Electromagnetic Systems

[Bob Smith]

Another Quote from Bearden to Explain Asymmetrical Issue

The following is from the correspondence of Colonel Tom Bearden, posted on his Cheniere.org website at:

http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/030110.htm

I'll post as much as I can of it below
Bob

In 1892, there were no electrical engineers at all, because it (electrical engineering) had not been born yet -- but technical engineers were now needed to design, build, work on, and maintain the new AC power systems etc. given us by Nikola Tesla. Maxwell was already dead (he died in 1879), and everyone hated quaternions. There were only about three dozen PHYSICISTS on earth who understood something of electrodynamics, and that was it. To provide the new Tesla AC power technology, which was to be taught in our universities and called "electrical engineering", Lorentz was preparing the equations for the mathematical model to be used. He was using Heaviside's original vector equations, which were still ASYMMETRIC and thus included asymmetric Maxwellian systems.

Tesla had discovered in the late 1880s and early 1890s how to build ASYMMETRIC systems which could take and use all the EM energy one wished, from the "active medium" (Tesla's term) and without consuming fuel. And Tesla was briefing technical societies to that effect. (See rigorous proof that Tesla could have given us free EM energy from the seething active medium: See T. W. Barrett, "Tesla's Nonlinear Oscillator-Shuttle-Circuit (OSC) Theory," Annales de la Fondation Louis de Broglie, 16(1), 1991, p. 23-41. Barrett rigorously shows that EM expressed in quaternions allows shuttling and storage of potentials in circuits, and dissipation of the energy in those regions desired. The quaternion electrodynamics also allows additional EM functioning of a circuit that a conventional EM analysis using the symmetrized Heaviside-Lorentz vector equations cannot reveal. Barrett shows that Tesla's patented circuits did exactly this]

We also strongly note that Barrett is a very noted (though quiet) electrodynamicist and one of the cofounders of ultrawideband radar, along with Harmuth.

All this was known to the ruthless financier J. P. Morgan, still angry and smarting at his own backing of Edison and DC power systems being soundly defeated by Tesla's much more practical AC power systems. So he was already setting up the total suppression of Tesla, by first breaking his backer Westinghouse (which he did) and then deliberately breaking Tesla (which he did also).

Morgan had already had his technical advisors check the work of Tesla, and they found that Tesla's confounded "energy freely from the active medium" systems (asymmetric systems) were for real.

As a result, Morgan's tech advisors did a group analysis on the Heaviside equations and showed that the Heaviside equations were still ASYMMETRICAL -- and thus they still contained some of those confounded Tesla "free excess energy from the active medium" (i.e., asymmetric) systems. At Morgan's bidding, Lorentz was then elicited to eliminate those "free energy from the active medium" systems from this new-fangled electrical engineering that was being formed.

Lorentz was a great scientist, but he was also noted for stealing and publishing other scientists' work and taking credit for it. [For an expose, see J. D. Jackson and L. B. Okun, "Historical roots of gauge invariance," Reviews of Modern Physics, Vol. 73, July 2001, p. 663-680. Jackson and Okun discuss roots and history of gauge invariance, verify that Ludwig Lorenz (without the 't') first symmetrically regauged Maxwell's equations, although it has been misattributed to H. A. Lorentz (with the 't') as being first. This is an excellent coverage of the history of who did what and when, and who got credit for it. Lorentz stole work by Lorenz (without the "t") and published it as his own, and thereby ARBITRARILY SYMMETRIZED the resulting EE model and theory using the "Heaviside-Lorentz" modified SYMMETRICAL equations.

[Ufopolitics]

Re-Gauging Equations...

Here, Bearden spells out what UFO stated and supported with Bearden's quotes, regarding the re-gauging of Maxwell's equations. Great stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nzxown3sVWg&feature=endscreen

B

Hello Bob, great post!!

Exactly that video resumes the "Mathematical Standpoint of Both Systems"...

A Symmetrical System is a Closed System, calculations occurs in an enclosed and easier environment that could be calculated using a couple of 2D Planes to calculate a 3D Volume, but NOT perfectly accurate. Lorentz benefit and accepted the Rigid Vectors and Tensors for calculations of the Symmetrical Model. Everyone accepted this as "making it much more simple" to calculate...

The Asymmetrical Model, including the Giant Electromagnetic Curve from Heaviside, is much more complicated since it is an Open System, it deals with a Real Three Dimensional Volume of Irregular area (and like T. Bearden says...also in a Four Dimensional Space) that expands into Space and it "adjusts" according to Resonance and Pulses Applied...and the ONLY WAY to calculate their volume is through High Level Algebra's, Integers with infinite ranges are the only way to calculate irregular 3D Areas...(That is where Bearden goes back in time and explain in those times it was a clever deal...but now, with all the Software-Hardware Tech, it could be done by a young Engineer Apprentice-Student...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Hello to All,

Hello Bob Smith,

Thanks for all your great posts, and please keep bringing all Tom Bearden videos and text explanations, as they will help understand where the "crippling" applies...and how this Symmetry works.

The "scenario" is not simple, it took me years to finally join all data together and apply it to Electrodynamic Machines...even after I had my motors running perfect.
It has been a long study of all "Free Energy" and OU Motors-Generators that have been seized, including Tesla's Patents...to make "Final Conclusions"
The Symmetry is a "Methodology" that applies to all electromagnetic systems in general, Static and Dynamics...and if we do not understand the Basic Fundamentals, we will never understand their applications in the fields of Dynamics...
My Motors are also based on a "Methodology", they do not "Limit" to an specific model-platform, I have done from three poles armatures, two stators to Twenty Eight Poles and four stators...and more...so the thing is to "Get the Way" to build them in order to beat the Symmetry that we are all used to...

So, it will not do any good, that I just post here an specific model that I'd built, even a simple one...without understanding first Symmetry versus Asymmetry...I know it will bring confusion, like I had before...where I could not "see" the difference, but just a different model...and that will limit yourselves to keep developing further "Conversions" of different structure-architecture types...
I am putting together great videos with 3D Animations-CAD Graphics, that will make a much better understanding of the big differences between the Two Worlds.

Regards


Ufopolitics

[Bob Smith]

Bearden Spells out How Equations were Changed, Why

Here, Bearden spells out what UFO stated and supported with Bearden's quotes, regarding the re-gauging of Maxwell's equations. Great stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nzxown3sVWg&feature=endscreen

B

[Bob Smith]

Bearden Asymmetry Quote

Hi UFO
Hope you don't mind me posting another quote from Bearden - something I posted elsewhere on this site a few years back, copied and pasted. I think it does further justice to what you're saying, and hopefully helps the conversation along --
Bob


Posted at this link: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post44568
I'm wondering if this thread points to the assymetry that is required to run EM systems without destroying the dipole. Here is a quote from Bearden that I posted in another forum, which illustrates what I'm saying:
RS


Maxwell's equations (Heaviside version) do indeed allow open EM systems freely receiving excess energy from their environment, and producing overunity. Such systems can (1) self-oscillate, (2) self-organize, and (3) power themselves while simultaneously powering a load.

There is no problem at all in extracting all the EM energy you wish from the
vacuum. Everything does that anyway! Our normal circuits only capture and
use about 10exp(-13) of the actual energy flow extracted from the vacuum by the source dipole. Heaviside pointed out that most of the energy was just
wasted in nondivergent form. Lorentz impatiently formulated a procedure that
just discards all that 10exp13 component, leaving only the 10exp(-13)
component. That tiny little remaining "diverged" (collected) fraction is what
drives our circuits. Lorentz also taught us the completely stupid (from a
power system viewpoint) procedure of symmetrically regauging Maxwell-Heaviside equations before we use them. In other words, he taught us to discard far more systems -- all those that asymmetrically self-regauge so as to retain a net force and be able to use that excess free energy in a load -- than he retained. Since then, all our engineers have dutifully -- like good little parrots -- applied those equations AFTER the Lorentz procedure has been invoked.

Free energy experimenters always expected a conspiracy somewhere. It actually was an innocent conspiracy originally. The old guys did it to ease the solution of the equations mathematically. It appears that one or two later realized what I speak of in this writeup. However, their controllers (the
financial end) in secret has had this kind of thing suppressed for decades.
Now you know the exact nature of the real conspiracy. It is innocent on the
part of the scientists for 99.9999% of the cases. It is not innocent at all
on the part of a very few powerful industrialists who know this and pass it
along.

Both the Russians (Moscow University) and the U.S. (Gabriel Kron for a
contractor in a Navy contract at Stanford University) made free energy devices
in the 1930s. The Russian work is fully documented in the hard Russian
physics literature and the French physics literature. The KGB/Communists
suppressed the Russian work at the beginning of WW II. I do not know what
happened in France to cause its abandonment. In the U.S., Kron's work was
never openly released on what he called his "negative resistor" which, when
connected to the Network Analyzer at Stanford, allowed the NA to be
disconnected from the generator because the negative resistor would power it.

See: http://users.navi.net/~rsc/physics/beard24.txt

[Ufopolitics]

Hello Vrand

Hi UFO,
Looking forward to learning more on the motors and generators you used in your OU experiments.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers Mike

Hey Mike,

Let's ALL first get to learn about the crippled Sciences THEY have thought ALL of Us across all Engineering Schools along the whole Planet for more than a HUNDRED YEARS...(132 Years to be more precise)...before We enter in a completely different World of new concepts...
I want ALL to get to the BOTTOM of where, when and How did it ever Happened...
I want to accuse, bring out, broadcast every where they "Applied" this crappy technology...this machines that all they do is Generate vasts amounts of Fire and Heat...and consume, devour every volt from every single battery or source you attach them to...Fire Burners...

I am spending hundreds of hours making the Animated videos about this Obsolete Technology we've been bound to...
From Toys we buy to our kids, that keep wearing batteries up after five minutes run...all the way to heavy machinery and tooling...passing through ALL Household and Industry Appliances-Equipment, that utilizes a Motor...no matter if it is BLDC, Brushed, Universal or whatever...still, their armatures rotate based on crashing electron flow, are shorted out...burning energy galore that never returns back, but to smoke and heat...

"The Conservation of Energy Self Destruction Laws"...Is the name they should have given to it...

Keeping the Thermodynamics at very high temperatures Laws, closed systems, crashing circuitry...inefficiency galore.

Now, before I release my work in full here....I want to open that Thread...but first, am gonna start a series of videos...showing my prototypes doing things this Crippled Sciences would never accept...and tease the Skeptics, the non-believers, the Pessimists, all the ones who use their "creative minds" but to criticize, to theorize and to minimize...Asking them to "Go ahead, debunk this!..it will be a great pleasure to do that...after all, I am rendering all my work for free here, right?...You and many here, know perfectly well I could have sold my soul to them, to Evil himself...and then We all will keep going with the old fire burners...the Stove Motors and Oven Generators of heat...

So, it would be Ok, if I "entertain myself" a bit ...Don't you think?


Regards and Cheers...


Life is only one, live it at full rate...


Ufopolitics

[vrand]

Symmetric versus Asymmetric Electromagnetic Systems

I wanted to start this thread before I move on to disclose the type of motors and generators that took me to the paths of Radiant Energy in another Thread. [/url]

Hi UFO,
Looking forward to learning more on the motors and generators you used in your OU experiments.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers Mike

[Ufopolitics]

Great Video Bob Smith!

Here's a helpful interview with Bearden which addresses asymmetry, among other things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypYFe3JXdE

Have a good weekend everybody!
Bob

Thanks for the video Bob!

I like Tom Bearden, He has defined and expressed so clearly about all the crippled sciences ...well, after all, it took Him over Thirty Years of his life to find out...

This part of this video I love...

Time>5:22 to 5:38

"WHERE YOU TURN SCIENCE INTO DOGMA IS WHEN YOU 'LOCK IN' ON A GIVEN MODEL, AND YOU "ASSUME" YOUR MODEL IS PERFECT...AND THEREFORE, ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T AGREE WITH THAT MODEL CAN NOT POSSIBLE EXIST IN NATURE...SEE, THAT'S WHEN SCIENCE BECOMES DOGMA..."

Tom Bearden


We have been ruled by a Dogmatic Science for One Hundred and Thirty Two Years...when they started the process of "SYMMETRIZATION OF OUR DESTRUCTION"...

The red lines are mine...

Warm Regards Bob

Ufopolitics

[Bob Smith]

Bearden Interview - Addresses Asymmetry

Here's a helpful interview with Bearden which addresses asymmetry, among other things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypYFe3JXdE

Have a good weekend everybody!
Bob

[ZeropointEnergy]

New thread

Hello Aaron,

Yes, exactly, that was the reason I have created this thread...clear doubts to those who do not really understand RE..and also to keep a nice debate by comparing differences between both systems.

Regards and my pleasure


Ufopolitics

Hey UFO,

Thanks for starting this post and sharing more of your knowledge and experience with us. Now on Asymmetrical systems (motors) and I can see this thead getting into electrogravitics and the charge seperation principles of an asymmetrical capacitor

I did ask a few questions I hope relates to the material here and did not recieve answers in the "My motors got me to tap into Radiant energy" thread. Will go read the earlier argument pages in the first thread in case I missed the answer already posted.

Well back to experimenting

Regards
Zero

[MonsieurM]

can't wait to see it roll

Bien ....Merci

Rodrigo y Gabriela - Diablo Rojo (HQ) - YouTube

[Ufopolitics]

Mercy Monsieur M.

Thank you for this great thread and info Ufopolitics

[MonsieurM]

Hello Madhatter,

Thanks, my pleasure.

Yes, the System incredibly tries to "Naturally Balance Itself"...incredible isn't it?

Bob French realized that when charging batteries with my set-up...
I have also noticed when adding higher loads...

Well after all it is a Natural Response from Nature...trying to Balance out our "Bait" sent out through our magnetic field.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Thank you for this great thread and info Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Thanks Aaron

This thread certainly sets the basis for many of us to understand the theory about radiant energy. Thanks to UFOpolitics for posting the info in an organized manner.
Like many others here, I am learning......

Hello Aaron,

Yes, exactly, that was the reason I have created this thread...clear doubts to those who do not really understand RE..and also to keep a nice debate by comparing differences between both systems.

Regards and my pleasure


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Hello Madhatter

very good information. Thank you for taking the time to post this.

symmetry keeps things in the box, wrapped up nicely and no room for questions. the balanced push-pull system = 0.

I was doing some more research and going over my notes last night on the transformer core that's comprised of capacitor plates. The unbalanced or asymetrical surface area and number of plates between polarities is most likely why I'm getting such a gain and why it also pulls so heavily from ground. It's trying to balance it-self but since the ground is at the load side it has to balance and match the load as well.

Hello Madhatter,

Thanks, my pleasure.

Yes, the System incredibly tries to "Naturally Balance Itself"...incredible isn't it?

Bob French realized that when charging batteries with my set-up...
I have also noticed when adding higher loads...

Well after all it is a Natural Response from Nature...trying to Balance out our "Bait" sent out through our magnetic field.


Regards


Ufopolitics