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  • John_K
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    Great work Bit's!

    Originally posted by Bit's-n-Bytes View Post
    Here is the next Vid as promised.

    YouTube - Self Running Bedini 10 Coiler- Grid Tie.MPG

    Jeff
    Hey Bit's,

    Great work again !! It definitely looks like you are on a winner there. I agree that bigger drive batts will help balance the system better.

    You've given me some great ideas that I'll be working on but at the same time keeping close to your setup. I hope to report as much success as you.

    Back to the bench...


    John K.

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  • Bit's-n-Bytes
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    10 Coiler now working the grid! (and 2 cap pulser, &,&amp

    Originally posted by Bit's-n-Bytes View Post
    Thanks Vissie, no I got plans for the batts and in my next vid, I'll be showing them driving my 200W grid tie inverter feeding the house.

    Jeff
    Here is the next Vid as promised.

    YouTube - Self Running Bedini 10 Coiler- Grid Tie.MPG

    Jeff

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  • John_K
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    Originally posted by nvisser View Post
    Hi John
    That relay circuit is pretty amazing. It is a pity the contacts can't handle it. I though about using a commutator with brushes. One that only goes back and forth with a solenoid and spring or something similar.
    I found that by leaving out that first cap and charging the series caps straight with the ss ssg you get better performance. Here is a document that explains why you loose half the energy when you charge one cap with another. Than of coarse you have to switch the power off to the ss ssg while you are in the discharge cycle or you have to do it like in my simplified circuit . That way the ssg stay loaded all the time and you wont blow transistors
    Thanks Vissie,

    I'm working on using JB's inverted cap pulser to discharge the caps. This way I won't need to have the first cap and will also gain some more efficiency. It will also make sure that the SSG is always loaded.


    John K.

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  • bmind
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    Originally posted by Bit's-n-Bytes View Post
    Thanks Vissie, no I got plans for the batts and in my next vid, I'll be showing them driving my 200W grid tie inverter feeding the house.

    Jeff
    Is there any chance of posting the full schematic of all circuits involved? I would certainly like to take a look at the whole circuit as it would be very useful. I know that parts of this circuit are discussed in other threads...
    I would like to congratulate you on the amazing work you have done.
    Thanks

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  • nvisser
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    Originally posted by John_K View Post
    Thanks Bit's,
    I started messin' around with a few things. First of all I kind of got Vissie's 2 cap pulser circuit working, although to test out the switching I am using a relay just like Vissie did.
    I was using a bifilar SS SG to charge up a 330uF 450V cap to about 80V and then charging 2 x 6,800uF 50V caps in series and dumping them into a battery in parallel. The SS SG was using about 500mA @ 25V, but I was dumping about 1.5A @ 30V into the battery. I was pulsing twice per second. All was going well until the relay contacts started sticking. Lucky for the NE-2 protecting the SS SG tranny! The battery was charging pretty well though. I'll convert the relay into solid state before too much.

    John K.
    Hi John
    That relay circuit is pretty amazing. It is a pity the contacts can't handle it. I though about using a commutator with brushes. One that only goes back and forth with a solenoid and spring or something similar.
    I found that by leaving out that first cap and charging the series caps straight with the ss ssg you get better performance. Here is a document that explains why you loose half the energy when you charge one cap with another. Than of coarse you have to switch the power off to the ss ssg while you are in the discharge cycle or you have to do it like in my simplified circuit . That way the ssg stay loaded all the time and you wont blow transistors
    Last edited by nvisser; 08-27-2010, 06:32 PM.

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  • TanTric
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    awsome!

    do you think it can power your house board and still self sustain?

    do you allready made calculations of the "extra energy" that the system can put out while self running?

    you rock! congratulations...

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  • Bit's-n-Bytes
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    Originally posted by nvisser View Post
    Nice one Bit's
    Amazing stuff!!
    Looks like you are going to overcharge those batteries!
    Thanks Vissie, no I got plans for the batts and in my next vid, I'll be showing them driving my 200W grid tie inverter feeding the house.

    Jeff

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  • safder
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    finally something come to cheer .thanks bit's

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  • nvisser
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    Nice one Bit's
    Amazing stuff!!
    Looks like you are going to overcharge those batteries!

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  • Bit's-n-Bytes
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    Originally posted by everwiser View Post
    Very cool! If you make another vid please show the 10-coiler spinning away. I didn't notice any of the 10-coiler except its base shown in the video. Thanks!
    Yes sorry about the vid, it was late and I was excited. I'll make another here shortly.

    Jeff

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  • everwiser
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    Very cool! If you make another vid please show the 10-coiler spinning away. I didn't notice any of the 10-coiler except its base shown in the video. Thanks!

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  • John_K
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    Originally posted by Bit's-n-Bytes View Post
    Hi John, here you go;

    Thanks

    Jeff
    Thanks Bit's,

    Now I get it, well most of it.

    I started messin' around with a few things. First of all I kind of got Vissie's 2 cap pulser circuit working, although to test out the switching I am using a relay just like Vissie did.
    I was using a bifilar SS SG to charge up a 330uF 450V cap to about 80V and then charging 2 x 6,800uF 50V caps in series and dumping them into a battery in parallel. The SS SG was using about 500mA @ 25V, but I was dumping about 1.5A @ 30V into the battery. I was pulsing twice per second. All was going well until the relay contacts started sticking. Lucky for the NE-2 protecting the SS SG tranny! The battery was charging pretty well though. I'll convert the relay into solid state before too much.

    Next will be to use my 24 tranny rotored SSG in place of the SS SG and then build the inverter. (Need to order some more MJLs first) I like how you have the 36V on the secondary side of your 10 coiler so I'll try that as well.

    A couple of things I don't get. First, what is the purpose of C1 in your diagram? I see it in the video too but can't think what it is used for. Second, do you have a schematic and the code for the battery swapper?

    I'd like to be able to run the whole setup off just one PICAXE but that may be a bit too optimistic for my programming skills. I have a PICAXE-40X which gives me enough in and out pins, so it's doable but also a challenge. Otherwise I'll use what you are are, which looks like 3 separate PICAXE-18X - 1 for the swapper, 1 for the inverter and 1 for the TS cap pulser.

    Thanks again Bit's, I think you're on a winner here. Wish I could afford a 10 coiler as well Gotta sell more of Rick's and John's chargers first


    John K.

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  • citfta
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    Great job Bits!!

    That is a fantastic build! you must have been working on this project day and night to get that far. You are a great inspiration to the rest of us. Congratulations!!


    Carroll

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Wow you were making progress. Thats pretty great bits.

    Matt

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  • Bit's-n-Bytes
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    Originally posted by John_K View Post
    Hi Bit's,

    Great work! My you have been a busy boy...

    So how does the 10 coiler fit into the picture? I'm not real clear on exactly what is doing what. Perhaps a chicken scratch of a block diagram that shows which each part of the system does would help?

    Again, great work. I'd love to replicate this.


    John K.
    Hi John, here you go;

    Thanks

    Jeff
    Last edited by Bit's-n-Bytes; 10-17-2010, 01:29 AM.

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