Use for the Tesla Switch

[Matthew Jones]

Really, well just you continue. And, as soon as you attempt to step up your voltage output without any safeguards, such as caps, you leave yourself open to spikes feeding back into your batteries. Of course, as soon as it happens, you won't tell us. Will you. That would be too much!

A simple TS is there for the making with mechanical switching. IT just need the correct understanding of how it works!

Now, you have a nice day.
Regards

Bud, I would guess you haven't read through this thread at all. I have been running a transformer on the negative side of my battery now for about 8 weeks or more, and I have had no trouble. In fact my battery capacity has gone up. There is nothing wrong with Inductive spikes on the negative side of a battery.
I have ran the trafo with both non capacitive loads and capacitors. I have more tests on a TS than any one person on this forum.
I am very up front about my findings and besides yourself there is not one person who subscribes to this that doesn't know that.

So you better figure your place in this gig, before you come in here and spew your misinformation, nonsense and BS. We have been through this too many times with people like you. Go on and test me..

Matt

[ourbobby]

Nonsense

Thats Nonsense. Provide proof or don't make statements like this.

Matthew Jones

Really, well just you continue. And, as soon as you attempt to step up your voltage output without any safeguards, such as caps, you leave yourself open to spikes feeding back into your batteries. Of course, as soon as it happens, you won't tell us. Will you. That would be too much!

A simple TS is there for the making with mechanical switching. IT just need the correct understanding of how it works!

Now, you have a nice day.

Regards

Edit: I want to make sure that others reading this thread do not make the mistake of thinking that you know what you are talking about:

1) ref: low capacitance coupling Transformer types - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2)At the rear of pdf quoted above tests performed by Eike Mueller, on page 28, he state "low voltage of battery #2 - marked with * in the table 3 - is most likely caused by the BEMF from the transformer".

Pulse transformer, same as you are trying to emulate at 420 hz, through SSR"S would make your circuit vulnerable. SSR"S are very prone to BEMF. Batteries too. Why would you think that all the circuits used by JB and in Patrick Kelly book use Capacitors. Do you really think you know something they don't?

[Matthew Jones]

If you attempt to drive a transformer directly from the negative poles, you will undoubtedly harm your batteries.

Thats Nonsense. Provide proof or don't make statements like this.

Matthew Jones

[ourbobby]

Hey folks,
Read the whole thread. Don't assume nothing of value has been discovered just because the last page of the thread isn't brimming with folks replicating a working device. Take the TIME to read through it.

David Bowling

Hi David, you are quite correct. Read the whole thread.

One of the problems with replicating the TS, is the use of semiconductors. JB's original "Cigar Box" design was low power use. As soon as you increase the power factor in the TS, this is where problems occur. Solid State devices have a tendency to leak and create points of resistance in a "simple" circuit such as this. They also POP!

If you have correctly got a TS working, withing the first 10 minutes your 12 volt lead acid batteries will be reading approximately 20 volt. John Bedini did earlier on this thread leave two circuit diagrams that illustrate the charging technique. That was to place a resistance - light globe in series with the series connected batteries. These are external to the capacitor driven transformer. If you attempt to drive a transformer directly from the negative poles, you will undoubtedly harm your batteries. The Transformer is pulsed through capacitors. Although JB's circuit suggests charging and loading are two separate events, it is possible to run them together. Indeed, this is essential if you are to run a load continuosly - the main load could be a DC load.

While this sounds somewhat cloudy, once you get a TS to work you will know exactly what I mean. To get the TS to work is simple! To get it to provide unlimited power is a bit harder, I haven't solved that yet - too expensive for me at the moment. And, I am working on another project that consumes most of my time.

I have built a rotary switch that is in essence, resistance free. I drive this from one of the 12 volt batteries which is always in circuit of the alternating four batteries. I also, using a parallel arrangement of 5 lm338 voltage regulators, can adjust the speed of the drive( circuit available on the datasheet). Unfortunately, as my switch is not completely engineered there is a bit of rattle and clatter associated with it. I can only do test runs when my wife is not home! I also have made copper brushes, as carbon brushes seemed to wear for me too quickly and also had a tendency to break up.

I have used as my basis, the circuit from the Kelly Free energy book. I have modded the circuit only to incorporate my switch. The operation is pretty much the same.

Every thing you need to know about replicating the TS is contained in the file "Experiments with a Kromrey and a Brandt-Tesla Converter". You may have it as say Mueller tesla switch.pdf. It comes with different names. Same content. Pay particular attention to how the Kromrey converter works. This is a key to understanding how the TS works.

Remember, everything you need to find/work out how to get the TS to work is contained on this forum thread and in the above pdf.

Hope this helps, personally, I don't do working explanations. Where's the fun in working through the problem then?

Regards

Rob

[genessc]

How about a schematic with actual component values and that shows how you have things wired with the SSR's you're using to control the pulsing and how the control IC is setup to control them both? If you can specify component parts numbers and provide a schemo showing how you're doing the switching that would be helpful. The only schematic I saw from you was a high level schematic that had no control schematic present on how that was set to run.

I do understand how its supposed to work, but just want to replicate from a complete base circuit to grasp the functioning prior to just trying to "wing it" with other componentry in the mix.

Thanks,
Gene

What schematic do you want details on?

Matt

[Turion]

Hey folks,
Read the whole thread. Don't assume nothing of value has been discovered just because the last page of the thread isn't brimming with folks replicating a working device. Take the TIME to read through it.

Here we have a perfect example. Matt has taken us through his build as it progressed, and he has a successful working device. I think pretty much everything needed to replicate it is in here, although I am busy right now with something that has taken up all my bench space or I promise you I would be knee deep in replicating what Matt has shown us. It is definitely my next project! I HAVE read the whole thread, and I have taken notes to construct a build. That I think is the first step. THEN come back and ask specific questions. I have a few questions too, but they will be SPECIFIC questions. And Matt can tell you, I am not exactly a whiz at electrical circuits. He has spent long hours both in private e-mails and on the phone helping me out with builds in the past. But he is that kind of guy.

David Bowling

[shingot]

Those pictures were the replication of Groundloop from OU of the original Tesla-Switch. After his tests, he just threw it on the bin.

[shubhamforme]

here are the above circuits and their details in large image...
the following file also include the hex file for programming the ic...
kindly download from the link


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this is a winzip file

[shubhamforme]

the original tesla switch working

this is the original switch which was design by john bedini and it powers 5v nicd batters providing a load plus the 4 five volts nicd batteries never get discharged,,,,,

kindly have a look and give me your views...
thanks

[Matthew Jones]

Got it. Once a formal schematic is shared with component values and component vendors, along with some idea of the expected results with the timing and duty information, I'll jump on it and try to replicate.

Theres not much point trying to build something thats only been half shared and thats still lacking a significant amount of context.

If you, David, have something working that you can elaborate on that uses parts sourced from common vendors with particular values for the various components and a schematic, i'd be willing to go procure such and try to replicate your own findings.

Speaking from my experience, its quite difficult to pickup an idea from another person and try to build to it as the vision for what is being looked for is unknown or assumed which is just as bad as it being unknown.

Thanks for the clarification!
Gene

What schematic do you want details on?

Matt

[genessc]

Got it. Once a formal schematic is shared with component values and component vendors, along with some idea of the expected results with the timing and duty information, I'll jump on it and try to replicate.

Theres not much point trying to build something thats only been half shared and thats still lacking a significant amount of context.

If you, David, have something working that you can elaborate on that uses parts sourced from common vendors with particular values for the various components and a schematic, i'd be willing to go procure such and try to replicate your own findings.

Speaking from my experience, its quite difficult to pickup an idea from another person and try to build to it as the vision for what is being looked for is unknown or assumed which is just as bad as it being unknown.

Thanks for the clarification!
Gene

Hey guys, just to make it clear, Matt never offered to do a "How To" DVD. That was just my wild suggestion, since I know there are lots of folks out there who would love to replicate this stuff, but don't have the basic skills or knowledge necessary to take a look at what has been posted here and translate that into a working device. They look at the schematics and then they give up. We need more people reproducing this stuff, so I suggested Matt make a "How To" DVD that we could purchase. It would give him some $$$ for more research and give everybody a step by step process. Which is something we have NEVER had with any of the builds on these sites. We get pictures and information, but never the step by step that beginners need to be successful and keep them from blowing themselves up

David Bowling

[Turion]

Hey guys, just to make it clear, Matt never offered to do a "How To" DVD. That was just my wild suggestion, since I know there are lots of folks out there who would love to replicate this stuff, but don't have the basic skills or knowledge necessary to take a look at what has been posted here and translate that into a working device. They look at the schematics and then they give up. We need more people reproducing this stuff, so I suggested Matt make a "How To" DVD that we could purchase. It would give him some $$$ for more research and give everybody a step by step process. Which is something we have NEVER had with any of the builds on these sites. We get pictures and information, but never the step by step that beginners need to be successful and keep them from blowing themselves up

David Bowling

[hherby]

Ya the square wire lowers the capacitance of the transformer and reduces saturation in the core while raising the total amount of flux transfer from wire to wire. Its not really a terrible problem the way I run it though. the AC signal reduces that alot as well.


Yep thats what happens. I haven't posted these yet cause I haven't got this part of it running on the big one yet but I am working on it.
This is a schematic "IDEA" for controlling six batteries through the system. Basically you have the the top batteries in rest. The middle batteries are charging, and the bottom batteries are discharging.

http://www.matthewcjones.com/power/Power_Delivery_MainPower_ControlSystem.jpg

http://www.matthewcjones.com/power/Power_Delivery_MainPower_Delivery.jpg

This allows for a continued run. The rested batteries batteries will always go into the rested slot and the the discharged batts go to the charge slot and charged batts go to the resting slot.



It works just like the 3 batt switch outlined by Bedini and tested by John K and Bytes some time ago They both showed a gain in charge.



While your on the subject, I am not going to get into it to deep with that hack on the lockridge thread but PM me and we'll talk a bit about possible better solutions for that thing then a flux gate.

Cheers
Matt

Hi Matt,
thanks for the clarification and tips. That's an excellent design idea for swapping 6 batteries. I sent you a PM on the last part.

Alex

[genessc]

I'm down as well... Would be nice to get some variety in the OU pool eh?

Gene

On Matt's "How-To" DVD offer - Yes, count me in... thanks!

Luther

[LutherG]

On Matt's "How-To" DVD offer - Yes, count me in... thanks!

Luther