The bistander thread

[Turion]

You have no idea what my generator can do. You have never seen it run. Your claims that it won't work are not supported by evidence of any kind, just your opinion. The "truth" can be seen on the bench. I haven't "given up." My partners are still working bugs out, and when they have it finished, I will present it here, just as I said I would do. These are the "facts". Until then I don't have time to waste arguing with you, You aren't worth the effort. When I have something to present I will be back. Until then, I have two other projects I am working on. You wanted to know if I'm still alive, and I believe I have answered that question.

Edit 8-7-2023

I got a call today from my partners. They are picking the two machines up from the machinist sometime today. The old white one that they had worked over, and the black one. Once they have them both up and running and everything working the way they want it, they will be taking them to Quanta Laboratories in Santa Clara, CA.

https://www.quantalabs.com/

This is the same facility I have had run tests on the machine twice before. Once those tests have been completed I will be back. Not before.

[Turion]

The machinist did something wrong. I don't know what. When he was reassembling the machine something did not line up correctly. His fault, and he is replacing whatever was incorrect. Supposedly, he will have it done this Friday. I will be leaving town next Monday for at least a couple weeks to visit my kids in AZ. By the time I get back they guys should have everything ready to take it in to be tested.

Would have taken the trip sooner, but have been caring for my 87 year old mom, who fell down a hill and broke her ankle in several places while cutting down dead trees with a chainsaw. The doctor said that generally, with people of her age who have that bad a break, they simply amputate. The fact that our elders are treated like that makes me incredibly sick to my stomach. In her case, they put it back together with plates and screws. She went from exterior metal frame to cast to boot to walker, and is now limping around on her own as she rehabilitates. So I feel like I can leave her and my wife together while I go visit my kids. It has been an interesting few months. We have had nurses, therapists, repairmen and contractors in and out of the house, and whenever someone is here, I am locked up in a bedroom with our antisocial dog for hours at a time. I will be so glad to get outa town for a while. I have half a dozen major projects I am working on, and I also hurt my back, so the last few months have been a nightmare. But I'm still here. Not going away.

[RAMSET]

David
yeesh …, having spent years caring for elderly family member
it is a challenge…
to note : cutting trees at 87 with a chain saw

amazing Mom ..( how I hope to be some day ( minus the break ( woman are more susceptible do to bone density issues)
enjoy Arizona,have some forum members out that way
its been hot as Hades out there !
BTW
glad your still here ….
respectfully
Chet

[Turion]

Some changes were made to remove all possible metal near the rotor. Only non-magnetic materials used whenever possible. Also to use the motor direct drive instead of using pulleys and belts. Coils haven't been put in place yet, but I'm sure they will have everything up and humming by the time I get back from AZ. Leaving day after tomorrow.


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[bistander]

Some changes were made to remove all possible metal near the rotor. Only non-magnetic materials used whenever possible. Also to use the motor direct drive instead of using pulleys and belts. Coils haven't been put in place yet, but I'm sure they will have everything up and humming by the time I get back from AZ. Leaving day after tomorrow.


Black Beauty 2.jpeg Black Beauty 1.jpeg Black Beauty 3.jpeg

Thanks.
Got a picture of the rotor?
bi

[Turion]

I do not. Same rotor as in all the videos of this machine I have posted. It's a 12 magnet rotor 3/4" x 3/4" N52 NEOS. I think the opposition magnets have been removed. NOT SURE of that. I haven't seen it yet. Will use a separate rotor for that as they were causing problems.

[bistander]

I do not. Same rotor as in all the videos of this machine I have posted. It's a 12 magnet rotor 3/4" x 3/4" N52 NEOS. I think the opposition magnets have been removed. NOT SURE of that. I haven't seen it yet. Will use a separate rotor for that as they were causing problems.

Hi Turion,
thanks for reply. That's why I asked; didn't see provision for your 'opposition' magnets, which are actually anticogging scheme. Separate rotor for that? Really? Ought to be fun!
I wonder if smaller direct drive motor can start rotating the generator without anticogging in place.
Good luck.
bi

[Turion]

We are using the direct drive motor to run the machine. Get it up to speed before inserting the coils. The friend of mine that BUILT Black Beauty originally has a setup using solenoids to push the coils into place after startup. We aren't that sophisticated yet. What we have seen is that when you get it up to speed, you have a specific rpm and amp draw. Then, when the coils are pushed into place, the rpm goes down and the amp draw goes up. If the opposition magnets are then put into place, the rpm goes back up, and the amp draw goes down. What we are still trying to decide is whether or not, in the long run, the reduced output without opposition magnets and the additional COST in required input is worth the cost of a separate rotor, stator, and two sets of magnets. We will see.

To make up for loss of power with the OLD machine I added more coils, but there is a big difference running with this new core material as opposed to welding rods. Lots of things to work out.

[Alexg800]

Re: TESLA SWITCH

Hi Turion,
for posts here concerning the Tesla Switch, please use a subject as I did. I encourage you to post here rather than the MG thread. And I don't want to confuse comments and data with your generator. Hopefully we can see some data from your buddies soon.
Regards,
bi
edit:

I am unfamiliar with the Tesla Switch, so I'm going to attach the basic circuit as this place relates. Let me know if this is what you're doing.
https://studfile.net/preview/8198158/

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Hello,

I am a new comer in this subject. Would like to ask a question concerning the article (https://studfile.net/preview/8198158/) attached here.

Mentioned here in the article:

"They used mechanical switching and stated that below 100 Hz there was not much advantage with the circuit and above 800 Hz it could be dangerous."

I cannot understand why the frequencies above 800Hz are dangerous. Could anyone explain?

[bistander]

Hey Turion,

Got an update?
bi

[Turion]

I haven't heard a word since they got stuff back from the machinist, and I have been way too busy. Will text them and see what is up. I have been working on the generation of energy with no moving parts, so the generator is not my highest priority. If you believe there is recovery of ANY energy in the third battery in the three battery system setup, or in the Tesla Switch setup, then free energy is absolutely possible. If you don't, well then what I am working on would be a waste of your time.

[Matthew Jones]

I have been working on the generation of energy with no moving parts, so the generator is not my highest priority.

LOL Imagine that. David thought of this idea all by himself. Do you ever think of anything on your own? Poor David lost in his own sick mind, spending the money he stole from his wife. LOL

[bistander]

It's been seven (7) years since Turion butted into a discussion which I was having with UfoPolitics on citfta's thread giving an unsolicited claim of having a generator which output 2kW while using only 240 watts of input. Turion has continued to lie about it since and is no longer interested. Creditability?
bi

[Turion]

Oh Matty,
I'm pretty sure I WAS the one who started the 3 Battery System thread on this forum. And at the time, I stated I got the idea from a circuit I saw from John Bedini. I think I GAVE credit at the time, and I'm MORE than willing to give it again. Maybe you don't remember that, but it is a true story. Recovery of DC energy while using it to run a load. SImple. Also worth its weight in GOLD.

And Tesla showed us how to recover DC energy with a Tesla switch way before that. Again, I have given credit to the person who showed us the way. And Benitez did it before Tesla. He should get MAJOR credit.

I believe YOU were the one who showed, on the USE FOR THE TESLA SWITCH thread how to do some work with that DC energy and recover it by running it through some SPECIFIC devices. You provided instructions on how to build them, and I built all three. You open sourced it.


But Benitez already SHOWED that. He also shows how to take low voltage DC and convert it to high voltage DC, and how to get out AS MANY AMPS as you have volts when you have created that high voltage. I'm not claiming I "discovered" that either. Just that I researched and read how to do it. Experimented, and what do you know?

I never claimed what I am working with is "ALL MY" discovery. Why do I need to come up with "an idea" when all that is needed is to apply the research of those that have gone before us? All the pieces are there, and have been for a long time. I'm just working on ways to put them together.

Are you insinuating that YOU are the one who came up with a method of producing energy with no moving parts? If so, where is it? If you believe what I am doing is somehow based on YOUR work, how could that possibly be, when you say I know NOTHING about your work? I have an email from YOU stating that I can "do whatever I want because I "know NOTHING about your work." Would you like a copy? LOL

I don't NEED your work. Benitez and Tesla have already shown us all we need to know. We have much better methods of implementing the principles they discovered than they EVER had.

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bi,
1800-200 watts output and under 300 watts input (24v at 12 amps) Never said I wasn't interested or that the work isn't going forward, just that it isn't MY PRIORITY. It isn't.

You guys can whine all you want. I have better things to do.

[hermesatar]

Turion, can you publish the schematic of the 600% effectivity Tesla Switch? with partlist? or as I am a protector of free energy knowledge and have an evergrowing linkpage at:

http://gratisenergi.se/free.htm I would be happy to publish the schematic with partlist? Turion, do you charge your batteries with pulses? Have your heard about the battery effect?

My french friend Simon Derricutt say that many free energy researcher encounters the battery effect when trying to charge a battery with pulses. They all found out they gain more

more energy. But after 3-6 months the battery that is charged, suddenly refuse to charge anymore. You can either reply to this post or mail me the information at: hermes@gratisenergi.se

Best Wishes, Hermes