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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    Well yes. I didn't see anyone else post results and data, not even you.



    That doesn't make any sense.


    I posted more data in the 3 or 4 posts on that experiment than you have ever posted in all that I've ever read from you.

    So, got any data to share from your generator?

    bi
    Where? I didn't see any free energy data. Because you don't have any. Trying to play with the big boys again Bye, when you are unable to except the real deal. Where is this so called data. Dave has shown video proof enough to stun the world. Liar Liar? That was a Jim Carrey movie, can we please grow past those childlike reactions?

    Dave may lose his cool once in in while with the continual taunting which is understandable, other than that he has gone out of his way to ensure that the average knuckle head gets it thru his thick skull. I was the worst one and he got thru to me.

    Now be nice guy too, Bye and show us your free energy data. I don't think you have.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post

    Really?
    ...
    Well yes. I didn't see anyone else post results and data, not even you.

    Originally posted by Turion View Post
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    You did more research and development on that circuit other than just building it and declaring that it is nothing special? I would really like to see that. But of course, it doesn't exist.
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    That doesn't make any sense.

    I've had a career's worth of R & D with electric machinery and energy systems. And I posted my test set-up, schematic diagram with data and other data without comments as to my opinion. I was objective. I let the results speak for themselves.

    I posted more data in the 3 or 4 posts on that experiment than you have ever posted in all that I've ever read from you.

    So, got any data to share from your generator?

    Regards,
    ​​​​​​​bi

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  • Turion
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    Alex,

    Thanks for the kind words. When Greyland gets this thing looped, I will PM you a YouTube link so you can see it. He has a guy who is supposed to be at his shop right about now (11:00 PM) to help him wire it up. He still has trouble because of his stroke. So if he can get it to work, I should have that info tonight or tomorrow. IF I can talk him into shooting a video.

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  • Turion
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    You said:
    "I wanted to see if anyone would take the ball and run with it. Those are the kind of people I am looking for."

    I was the only one.
    ​​​
    Really? YOU took the ball and fumbled. You did more research and development on that circuit other than just building it and declaring that it is nothing special? I would really like to see that. But of course, it doesn't exist.


    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    And you said this:
    "That particular simple little circuit shows all of the principles necessary to build a specific kind of working free energy device."

    Specifically what principals? What kind of working free energy device? And show proof of free energy from such a device.

    It's all BS.

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    BS? Oh yeah. Bi Stander LOL. As I said, you want to be spoon fed. Not going to happen. There are THREE very specific things that it shows. Some day maybe you will figure them out. But I doubt it.


    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    And it's all really simple. All I've ever wanted from you is proof of your claim. A public claim which you made numerous times. An extraordinary claim. What's wrong with that?
    ​​​
    Are you a Rolling Stones Fan? "You Can't Always Get What You Want"

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  • alexelectric
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    It is interesting when one makes an experimental prototype, there are some simple ones, others more complicated, of new experiments and that something new is wanted, or better, with better results they require more time and resources, an example of this here in this forum, there are many prototypes and experimental tests, all this is knowledge with data and information, with positive and negative results.

    In the experimental laboratories they carry out thousands of tests, and both positive and negative results are obtained.

    Researchers perform dozens of tests and not because they have negative data, or do not obtain what they were looking for, they continue, they redirect their investigations.

    There are labs and experimenters with many resources.

    The users and experimenters of this forum, not all experimenters have the time or the resources to carry out experiments.

    But if there are experimenters who have a perseverance in carrying out their experiments and prototypes, who have carried out dozens of tests and are still searching for their goal.

    The prototype that Mr. Dave shows us has invested time, dedication, talent, perseverance, knowledge, study, and financial resources, he tells us how he was not advancing, I look for him, I try new ways to make and improve his generator, first his coil , the speed that it should work and how it does not work (study the tesla patent), from his study he undertook the task of proving his conclusions from his study.

    In the next stage, he found that the coil must work with a speed, and he explains why.

    Then he was presented with the magnetic retention of the magnet and the coil core, he looked for and burned different motors, he could not make his generator work with more coils, the consumption of the motor that turned his generator could not with the magnet-coil core attraction, He continued with his effort, and studying one more patent, he found a solution, including in his generator magnets that will help in the braking that he had in his generator, thus he advanced once more.

    How much time and effort have you devoted to your project, and have you shared it so that others can replicate it, besides that you have sought and invited others to help you build it, and improve it.

    If I lived in your sector or place Mr. Dave, I would gladly include myself to help you and participate in the replicas that your helpers or friends are building, but I have not been possible.

    What I can do is make a replica of your generator, and experiment and test its operation, the data and guide are here in the forum, Mr. Dave has provided us with all the data, and says that he will continue to share the new generator, I thank you for your spirit of cooperation and thank you for your information.

    I will continue with his project. I am about to obtain another coil, what a coil, yes one more coil, and Mr. Dave has made dozens of them, it is work and effort.

    If the generator works as Mr. Dave says, very well it was achieved, and if it is not achieved, we have failed? No and no, it would allow us to continue looking and building improvements.

    But with what Mr. Dave has shown, the videos, theory, data, reports, allows us to make your own prototype and test its operation.

    And as far as I'm concerned, and with respect to other users of this forum, I have no doubt that the prototype of Mr. Dave's generator. if it works, and is improving it.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    As a matter of fact, I do not live without responsibility. None of us do. I’m just not responsible to YOU. Nor am I required to share things with the “world” through this forum. I have ways of sharing the things I believe are critical with people who actually listen and actually DO something with the information. If you believe posting it here is sharing it with the world I am truly embarrassed for you.

    As far as experimenting goes, I probably do more in a week than YOU do in a year. Just because I don’t post them here for YOU does not mean they do not take place. Here is a little video of my shop.

    https://youtu.be/mGun5NFmapE

    Do you really think I spent thousands of dollars on these different electrical components just to set them on my bench for a two minute video? REALwanted to see if anyone would take the ball and run with it. Those are the kind of people I am looking for.LY? LOL

    And about the 1BS I showed you. Yes, I have built it. It is not an OU circuit and I never said it was. I never disclosed its purpose other than to put it out there. I wanted to see if anyone would take the ball and run with it. Those are the kind of people I am looking for. You are not one of them. I didn’t disclose its purpose then, but I will now, just for you.

    That particular simple little circuit shows all of the principles necessary to build a specific kind of working free energy device. Principles. Not component parts. It is one of the crossroads on a very long journey that began with the 3BGS thread, included Info found on the “Use for the Tesla Switch” thread, and also included the Basic Free Energy Device thread information.

    The fact that you built it, tested it, and immediately dismissed it, tells me everything I need to know about you. You are not a seeker of knowledge. Or you want to be spoon fed. In either case, no thanks.

    Like I said, not the kind of person I am looking for. I do give you a significant amount of credit for actually building it and posting results. Although it was obvious you did so only to attempt to make me look bad. LOL. But do you really believe that criticism from YOU or anyone else is going to shut me up? I know what is true because of what I have built and seen working. Do you REALLY think your words can erase those moments of truth from existence? Dream on.

    You said:
    "I wanted to see if anyone would take the ball and run with it. Those are the kind of people I am looking for."

    I was the only one.

    And you said this:
    "That particular simple little circuit shows all of the principles necessary to build a specific kind of working free energy device."

    Specifically what principals? What kind of working free energy device? And show proof of free energy from such a device.

    It's all BS.

    And it's all really simple. All I've ever wanted from you is proof of your claim. A public claim which you made numerous times. An extraordinary claim. What's wrong with that?

    Regards,
    bi
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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    As a matter of fact,

    https://youtu.be/mGun5NFmapE


    That particular simple little circuit.... the Basic Free Energy Device thread information.
    Dream on.
    All dressed up and no where to go

    Dave's new dream machine runs on aether. The dc motor powers the lawn tractor gearbox and the new simple circuit keeps the battery full at all times without charging it off the wall. Recycled potential difference. There are few things capable of absorbing aether. #1 A battery and #2 an HHO cell and be stable enough to keep a circuit balance Bob Boyce showed that in the late 80's and early 90's, just didn't understand what he was saying.

    tell the guys that they need to use coils like in boost circuits only bigger.

    Sweet setup dave, I had no idea you were actually going to have a practical application. Better than hockey pucks comin at you.
    Last edited by BroMikey; 10-16-2020, 10:30 PM.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    My new secret project.........Greyland is able to loop the machine Remember that.
    Dude you were talking about looping your machines in 2015 and that you would show it running just around the corner. Will you stop that already? You are a gas Dave. That is all we deserve I know. Gimme a break.

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  • Turion
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    As a matter of fact, I do not live without responsibility. None of us do. I’m just not responsible to YOU. Nor am I required to share things with the “world” through this forum. I have ways of sharing the things I believe are critical with people who actually listen and actually DO something with the information. If you believe posting it here is sharing it with the world I am truly embarrassed for you.

    As far as experimenting goes, I probably do more in a week than YOU do in a year. Just because I don’t post them here for YOU does not mean they do not take place. Here is a little video of my shop.

    https://youtu.be/mGun5NFmapE

    Do you really think I spent thousands of dollars on these different electrical components just to set them on my bench for a two minute video? REALLY? LOL

    And about the 1BS I showed you. Yes, I have built it. It is not an OU circuit and I never said it was. I never disclosed its purpose other than to put it out there. I wanted to see if anyone would take the ball and run with it. Those are the kind of people I am looking for. You are not one of them. I didn’t disclose its purpose then, but I will now, just for you.

    That particular simple little circuit shows all of the principles necessary to build a specific kind of working free energy device. Principles. Not component parts. It is one of the crossroads on a very long journey that began with the 3BGS thread, included Info found on the “Use for the Tesla Switch” thread, and also included the Basic Free Energy Device thread information.

    The fact that you built it, tested it, and immediately dismissed it, tells me everything I need to know about you. You are not a seeker of knowledge. Or you want to be spoon fed. In either case, no thanks.

    Like I said, not the kind of person I am looking for. I do give you a significant amount of credit for actually building it and posting results. Although it was obvious you did so only to attempt to make me look bad. LOL. But do you really believe that criticism from YOU or anyone else is going to shut me up? I know what is true because of what I have built and seen working. Do you REALLY think your words can erase those moments of truth from existence? Dream on.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    My new secret project is coming along just fine. Thanks for asking. I work on it almost every day. The advanced stuff is in dispute right now. There are a couple groups working on it. It is amazing how much you can learn when you open your mind. You can choose to believe that people have debunked my stuff if you want. Makes no difference to me. I know what I know. And you know less than nothing. That fact allows me to sleep peacefully and wake up refreshed every day. So thanks! I don't owe YOU anything, and I don't owe the world anything. I have released lots of stuff and the few people who have actually replicated my generator no longer bother to post here because it is not worth their time. If Greyland is able to loop the machine he has in the next few days, I will let Aaron know, and I will post about it here. I might even post a video of it running, but you won't believe that anyway. But despite you, things are in the works to produce generators that use the principles I have shown. Don't know how long that will take, but I know the work will go on without me, so I have accomplished what I set out to do here. YOU, on the other hand, have accomplished what? LOL Despite your BS and disinformation. you haven't been able to stop me from bringing the truth to enough people to get this thing in gear. And now that the wheels have started turning, there's no stopping it. So you have failed at your only reason for existence. How does it feel?

    And by the way, did you learn ANYTHING from the 1BS? did you spend any time even THINKING about what was shown to you there?There are others out there who could substantiate your position OR mine if they chose to, because they have built coils that will speed up under load. If one of THEM chooses to run the test you want, you'll get your proof. Nope. You just dismissed it because it wouldn't power your house and went on your way. Remember that.
    "did you learn ANYTHING from the 1BS? did you spend any time even THINKING about what was shown to you there?"

    Do you remember? I asked you what it was supposed to show. What its purpose was. What your results were. No answer from you. The data I collected and behavior of the system was as I expected before I started. I built it because you posted what appeared to be a well defined experiment which I had all the components to build. I recorded and presented my data from several runs. At least one other member helped analyze it. I offered to do any request before I disassembled. To this day, you've never said its purpose or shared your results. Why is that? I know. You never built it yourself. It was just BS that you posted I guess because you thought it made you look smart or something. Go ahead. Prove me wrong. Pull out your data from your experiment and post it. Oh, that's right. You never record any data. Why's that. Oh, I know. You never take any data. It's just all pretend experiments with you.
    Regards,
    bi

    {edit}
    You say "and I don't owe the world anything."
    That's telling. You live without responsibility. Thank you.
    Last edited by bistander; 10-16-2020, 03:10 PM. Reason: Added note

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  • Turion
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    My new secret project is coming along just fine. Thanks for asking. I work on it almost every day. The advanced stuff is in dispute right now. There are a couple groups working on it. It is amazing how much you can learn when you open your mind. You can choose to believe that people have debunked my stuff if you want. Makes no difference to me. I know what I know. And you know less than nothing. That fact allows me to sleep peacefully and wake up refreshed every day. So thanks! I don't owe YOU anything, and I don't owe the world anything. I have released lots of stuff and the few people who have actually replicated my generator no longer bother to post here because it is not worth their time. If Greyland is able to loop the machine he has in the next few days, I will let Aaron know, and I will post about it here. I might even post a video of it running, but you won't believe that anyway. But despite you, things are in the works to produce generators that use the principles I have shown. Don't know how long that will take, but I know the work will go on without me, so I have accomplished what I set out to do here. YOU, on the other hand, have accomplished what? LOL Despite your BS and disinformation. you haven't been able to stop me from bringing the truth to enough people to get this thing in gear. And now that the wheels have started turning, there's no stopping it. So you have failed at your only reason for existence. How does it feel?

    And by the way, did you learn ANYTHING from the 1BS? did you spend any time even THINKING about what was shown to you there? Nope. You just dismissed it because it wouldn't power your house and went on your way. Remember that.
    Last edited by Turion; 10-16-2020, 06:24 AM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    If it's so simple, YOU run it. I have MY proof and that's all I need. You have your BELIEFS which are worth less than nothing. There are others out there who could substantiate your position OR mine if they chose to, because they have built coils that will speed up under load. If one of THEM chooses to run the test you want, you'll get your proof. I'm never going an inch out of my way to prove ANYTHING to you. Not ever.
    Hi Turion,

    You say: "There are others out there who could substantiate your position OR mine if they chose to, because they have built coils that will speed up under load. If one of THEM chooses to run the test you want, you'll get your proof."
    This guy did just that.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRxsC9yumQ
    Confirms what I said was going on with bifilar generator coils when I first saw it happening on a Thane Heins thread years ago. My position regarding the science and physics has hundreds of years of proofs. You're the one making extraordinary claims so the burden of proof is in you, otherwise it's just BS.

    I recall two other tests run by others which debunked your generator claims, or maybe it was the Matt motor claim. And one test on your 3BGS system. None supported your claims. You bad-mouthed the test and insulted/ridiculed the experimenter but never demonstrated anything yourself. Even when I replicated your 1BGS you couldn't ever show me where you had ever even built it yourself or what your data was.

    Been meaning to check. How's your new secret FE project coming along with the two teams of engineers? You know, the one you claimed was so far advanced as to obsolete your 2000W out / 300W in generator. A couple of years since you laid that out. Just a tease with no substance, right?

    Don't prove anything to me. Show the world the Free Energy you've been bragging about.

    I sincerely wish you would.
    Regards,
    bi

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  • Turion
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    If it's so simple, YOU run it. I have MY proof and that's all I need. You have your BELIEFS which are worth less than nothing. There are others out there who could substantiate your position OR mine if they chose to, because they have built coils that will speed up under load. If one of THEM chooses to run the test you want, you'll get your proof. I'm never going an inch out of my way to prove ANYTHING to you. Not ever.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    I have run those tests. I have that data. I am quite happy with my results. What you are saying is I need to do all those experiments again to prove it TO YOU. You overestimate your importance in the scheme of things. LOL.

    plus you overlook completely the tremendous advantage the multi strand correctly wound coils have when connected correctly and run at the proper speed. Not only do they output more than the standard coil run at the same speed, but they avoid Lenz, which is the PURPOSE of using them in the first place. Or did you forget already?
    Hi Turion,
    You claim (your coil):
    ​​​​"they output more than the standard coil run at the same speed".
    I outlined a simple test. Why not run it and prove your claim. Otherwise it is just like all your other bogus claims, isn't it? What's it been? At least 5 years which I know about. You, making claims, never showing proof. Oh, one time you did show your claim. Remember the 6-cell LiFePO4 12V battery on your bench? Funny how that was false.
    Regards,
    bi
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    Hi Turion,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRxsC9yumQ
    ...
    You saw how the test in the subject video was run. It would seem simple enough for you to run a similar test. Record the maximum output from your design bifilar coil and compare to a standard wound coil of equal mass designed for equivalent speed and load.
    Record your data like done in the video.

    Or, just loop your machine.

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  • Turion
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    I have run those tests. I have that data. I am quite happy with my results. What you are saying is I need to do all those experiments again to prove it TO YOU. You overestimate your importance in the scheme of things. LOL.

    plus you overlook completely the tremendous advantage the multi strand correctly wound coils have when connected correctly and run at the proper speed. Not only do they output more than the standard coil run at the same speed, but they avoid Lenz, which is the PURPOSE of using them in the first place. Or did you forget already?
    Last edited by Turion; 10-15-2020, 10:01 PM.

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