The bistander thread

[Turion]

We are using the direct drive motor to run the machine. Get it up to speed before inserting the coils. The friend of mine that BUILT Black Beauty originally has a setup using solenoids to push the coils into place after startup. We aren't that sophisticated yet. What we have seen is that when you get it up to speed, you have a specific rpm and amp draw. Then, when the coils are pushed into place, the rpm goes down and the amp draw goes up. If the opposition magnets are then put into place, the rpm goes back up, and the amp draw goes down. What we are still trying to decide is whether or not, in the long run, the reduced output without opposition magnets and the additional COST in required input is worth the cost of a separate rotor, stator, and two sets of magnets. We will see.

To make up for loss of power with the OLD machine I added more coils, but there is a big difference running with this new core material as opposed to welding rods. Lots of things to work out.

[bistander]

I do not. Same rotor as in all the videos of this machine I have posted. It's a 12 magnet rotor 3/4" x 3/4" N52 NEOS. I think the opposition magnets have been removed. NOT SURE of that. I haven't seen it yet. Will use a separate rotor for that as they were causing problems.

Hi Turion,
thanks for reply. That's why I asked; didn't see provision for your 'opposition' magnets, which are actually anticogging scheme. Separate rotor for that? Really? Ought to be fun!
I wonder if smaller direct drive motor can start rotating the generator without anticogging in place.
Good luck.
bi

[Turion]

I do not. Same rotor as in all the videos of this machine I have posted. It's a 12 magnet rotor 3/4" x 3/4" N52 NEOS. I think the opposition magnets have been removed. NOT SURE of that. I haven't seen it yet. Will use a separate rotor for that as they were causing problems.

[bistander]

Some changes were made to remove all possible metal near the rotor. Only non-magnetic materials used whenever possible. Also to use the motor direct drive instead of using pulleys and belts. Coils haven't been put in place yet, but I'm sure they will have everything up and humming by the time I get back from AZ. Leaving day after tomorrow.


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Thanks.
Got a picture of the rotor?
bi

[Turion]

Some changes were made to remove all possible metal near the rotor. Only non-magnetic materials used whenever possible. Also to use the motor direct drive instead of using pulleys and belts. Coils haven't been put in place yet, but I'm sure they will have everything up and humming by the time I get back from AZ. Leaving day after tomorrow.


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[RAMSET]

David
yeesh …, having spent years caring for elderly family member
it is a challenge…
to note : cutting trees at 87 with a chain saw

amazing Mom ..( how I hope to be some day ( minus the break ( woman are more susceptible do to bone density issues)
enjoy Arizona,have some forum members out that way
its been hot as Hades out there !
BTW
glad your still here ….
respectfully
Chet

[Turion]

The machinist did something wrong. I don't know what. When he was reassembling the machine something did not line up correctly. His fault, and he is replacing whatever was incorrect. Supposedly, he will have it done this Friday. I will be leaving town next Monday for at least a couple weeks to visit my kids in AZ. By the time I get back they guys should have everything ready to take it in to be tested.

Would have taken the trip sooner, but have been caring for my 87 year old mom, who fell down a hill and broke her ankle in several places while cutting down dead trees with a chainsaw. The doctor said that generally, with people of her age who have that bad a break, they simply amputate. The fact that our elders are treated like that makes me incredibly sick to my stomach. In her case, they put it back together with plates and screws. She went from exterior metal frame to cast to boot to walker, and is now limping around on her own as she rehabilitates. So I feel like I can leave her and my wife together while I go visit my kids. It has been an interesting few months. We have had nurses, therapists, repairmen and contractors in and out of the house, and whenever someone is here, I am locked up in a bedroom with our antisocial dog for hours at a time. I will be so glad to get outa town for a while. I have half a dozen major projects I am working on, and I also hurt my back, so the last few months have been a nightmare. But I'm still here. Not going away.

[Turion]

You have no idea what my generator can do. You have never seen it run. Your claims that it won't work are not supported by evidence of any kind, just your opinion. The "truth" can be seen on the bench. I haven't "given up." My partners are still working bugs out, and when they have it finished, I will present it here, just as I said I would do. These are the "facts". Until then I don't have time to waste arguing with you, You aren't worth the effort. When I have something to present I will be back. Until then, I have two other projects I am working on. You wanted to know if I'm still alive, and I believe I have answered that question.

Edit 8-7-2023

I got a call today from my partners. They are picking the two machines up from the machinist sometime today. The old white one that they had worked over, and the black one. Once they have them both up and running and everything working the way they want it, they will be taking them to Quanta Laboratories in Santa Clara, CA.

https://www.quantalabs.com/

This is the same facility I have had run tests on the machine twice before. Once those tests have been completed I will be back. Not before.

[bistander]

You're entitled to your opinion. Unfortunately for you, the facts prove otherwise.

Turion,
after all this time, you, nor anyone else, has ever presented a fact, a true fact, a real fact or proof to support your claim. You have repeatedly said you would produce proof but you never have, and now you have given up. The record here speaks for itself, that is more than just my opinion. It's the truth.

Your generator never worked as you claim. You can't make it do what you claim, nor can anyone else. It is a failure. That is fact. That is truth. You can't handle it. So run away like you've done previously.
bi

[Turion]

You're entitled to your opinion. Unfortunately for you, the facts prove otherwise.

[bistander]

I'm alive. Tending to my 87 year old mom who fell and fractured her ankle in several places. Threw out my back and still recovering. Haven't bothered with the generator in months. I know it was supposed to be back from the machinist already, but haven't contacted the guys lately. Will post when I have something of interest. I'm working on other projects anyway.

Might as well. It never worked anyway and never would.
bi

[Turion]

I'm alive. Tending to my 87 year old mom who fell and fractured her ankle in several places. Threw out my back and still recovering. Haven't bothered with the generator in months. I know it was supposed to be back from the machinist already, but haven't contacted the guys lately. Will post when I have something of interest. I'm working on other projects anyway.

[bistander]

Hey Turion,
any progress with your generator?
bi

BUMP!!!!

Does anyone know if member Turion is still among us?
Thanks.
bi

[bistander]

Hey Turion,
any progress with your generator?
bi

BUMP

Turion....Are you still alive?
bi

[bistander]

Hey Turion,
any progress with your generator?
bi