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  • Rakarskiy
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    ‘Assumption’ and ‘Assertion’ are very different actions. We can all be right or wrong. Especially with regard to the phenomenon - ‘magnetic field of a permanent magnet’, so I am very cautious on this issue.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
    We can "observe" something, but whether the Bloch wall actually exists is a rhetorical question.

    The mistake in treating visualisation - the image from a magnetic film held up to a permanent magnet - is simply to misinterpret what it depicts.

    There are "bubbles" in the magnetic film that contain a planar particle with the appropriate magnetisation.

    Depending on the vector of closure with the magnetic line, the particle is turned towards the observer: flat (dark part) or edge-on (light part).

    The film shows the character of the force line vector only on the outside of the magnet body.
    If the light strip, the magnetic lines crossing the film particles outside the magnet are strictly parallel to the magnetic vector between the poles in the body of the magnet.

    And what happens in the body of the magnet is a very interesting question, which has not yet been practically checked by anyone (at least, which is available publicly).

    Therefore, your inferences cannot be correct in any way. We don't know the truth yet.

    Hi Rakarskiy,

    I know how magnetic viewing film works. And have some, and have used it for decades. Your description is good. Thanks.

    Your last comment is illogical. Your premise that "We don't know the truth yet", infers that I CAN be correct. Which I believe is the truth. All evidence supports me, but sadly I am unable to prove such.

    Regards,
    bi

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  • Rakarskiy
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    We can "observe" something, but whether the Bloch wall actually exists is a rhetorical question.

    The mistake in treating visualisation - the image from a magnetic film held up to a permanent magnet - is simply to misinterpret what it depicts.

    There are "bubbles" in the magnetic film that contain a planar particle with the appropriate magnetisation.

    Depending on the vector of closure with the magnetic line, the particle is turned towards the observer: flat (dark part) or edge-on (light part).

    The film shows the character of the force line vector only on the outside of the magnet body.
    If the light strip, the magnetic lines crossing the film particles outside the magnet are strictly parallel to the magnetic vector between the poles in the body of the magnet.

    And what happens in the body of the magnet is a very interesting question, which has not yet been practically checked by anyone (at least, which is available publicly).

    Therefore, your inferences cannot be correct in any way. We don't know the truth yet.


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  • bistander
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    Subject: the Bloch Wall

    I feel there is a widespread misconception on this subject. So:

    I keep up with UfoPolitics' forum, OUmachines.com, but am not a member, for a few reasons. I have interacted with UfoPolitics over the past 7 or 8 years. He is a member here, so hopefully he'll see this.
    This chatGPT is an interesting thing. Opposed to having a "discussion" based on a difference of opinion (or interpretation) with a human, chatGPT doesn't get emotional. Most humans do.

    So I've been at odds with UfoPolitics about the use of the term "Bloch Wall". Today on his forum he made a statement to which I object. Unable to confront him there, and never resolving the issue before, I decided to ask chatGPT. See below.

    Another thing. UfoPolitics attributes the use of Bloch Wall to Dr. Felix Bloch. I have investigated this reading considerable amount about and from Dr. Bloch and have never seen "Bloch Wall" used in this context. Has anybody a citation of reference?


    ChatGPT 3.5

    User
    Today I read on line this "All Magnetic Fields have a Center Plane, between Both Poles...North, South.

    First one to identify this Plane as a "Wall" was Felix Bloch...reason why they name it after him the "Bloch Wall"."

    ________

    It has been claimed that all Magnetic Fields have a Center Plane, between Both Poles...North, South. And that Dr. Felix Bloch identified this feature and hence it was named after him, the Bloch Wall.

    Is this true or have any basis in physics or science?

    ChatGPT
    The concept of a "Bloch Wall" does have a basis in physics. It refers to a transition region between magnetic domains in a ferromagnetic material where the magnetization direction changes. This transition zone is where the magnetic moments rotate to align with the neighboring domains. Felix Bloch's work contributed significantly to our understanding of magnetism, but the term "Bloch Wall" is not widely used to describe the center plane between magnetic poles. It's more commonly associated with the transition region within ferromagnetic materials.

    User
    You did not answer the question. Need I repeat?

    ChatGPT
    Apologies for any confusion. The statement you read online about "All Magnetic Fields have a Center Plane, between Both Poles...North, South" and the connection to Felix Bloch naming it the "Bloch Wall" is not accurate. While the concept of a "Bloch Wall" does exist in physics to describe a transition region in ferromagnetic materials, it's not directly related to a center plane between magnetic poles in all magnetic fields. So, no, the statement doesn't have a basis in physics or science as presented.

    User
    Thank you. Is there any feature midway between the north and south poles of a magnet distinguishable from other areas of the magnet's material?

    ChatGPT
    Yes, in many magnets, there's a region known as the magnetic equator, which is roughly midway between the north and south poles. At this point, the magnetic field strength is typically weaker compared to closer to the poles. However, this region doesn't have a distinct physical feature like a "wall"; it's more of a transitional area where the magnetic field gradually changes.

    User
    How does the magnetic field change there?

    ChatGPT
    In the magnetic equator region, the magnetic field transitions from being directed predominantly outward from the north pole to being directed predominantly inward toward the south pole. This transition results in a decrease in the strength of the magnetic field compared to closer to the poles. The magnetic field lines tend to spread out more evenly in this region, leading to a weaker overall magnetic field strength.

    User
    I don't believe you. Please give sources or experimental proof.

    ChatGPT
    I apologize for any confusion. My response was based on general knowledge of magnetic fields. However, I cannot provide specific experimental proof or sources to support that claim. If you're interested in detailed information about the magnetic equator and how the magnetic field changes in that region, I recommend consulting scientific literature or textbooks on magnetism and magnetic fields. These sources should provide more comprehensive explanations and possibly experimental evidence to support the behavior of magnetic fields in the equatorial region of magnets.

    User
    I have studied what you recommended and never have seen the weakening of the magnetic field midway in between the poles inside of a magnet. Take a look at the field representation seen in FEMM diagrams. Can you do that?

    ChatGPT
    I don't have the capability to browse external content like FEMM diagrams. However, based on my knowledge, I can clarify that the concept of a weakening magnetic field at the midpoint between the poles inside a magnet might not be accurately represented in all cases. The magnetic field strength typically decreases as you move away from the poles, but it might not necessarily weaken significantly at the midpoint between the poles inside the magnet. Instead, it may remain relatively uniform in certain materials and configurations. I appreciate your clarification on this matter.

    User
    Knowing this, then is there any field transition midway between poles as you said? If so, be specific.

    ChatGPT
    In certain magnetic materials, there can be a transition region called the domain wall located midway between the poles. A domain wall is a boundary between adjacent magnetic domains with different magnetization directions. It's not a weakening of the overall magnetic field but rather a transition between regions with different magnetic orientations. These domain walls play a crucial role in understanding the behavior of magnetic materials, especially in ferromagnetic materials where magnetic domains can align to produce strong magnetic fields.

    User
    Does this domain wall occur between numerous domains throughout the entire magnet meaning the midpoint is no different, unless you have a two domain magnet, which is nearly impossible?

    ChatGPT
    You're correct. In most practical magnetic materials, the concept of a single domain wall occurring between numerous domains throughout the entire magnet is accurate. The presence of multiple domain walls throughout the material means that there isn't a distinct transition or feature at the midpoint between the poles. Instead, the magnet's internal structure consists of numerous domain walls, and the behavior of the magnetic field is more complex and continuous throughout the material.

    User
    Is it fair to say, observation from the inside of a magnet, one could not distinguish this midpoint between the poles from the field strength and direction only? If not, how then?

    ChatGPT
    That's a fair assessment. Observing the magnetic field strength and direction alone from inside a magnet, one wouldn't be able to distinguish a specific midpoint between the poles. The magnetic field would generally exhibit a continuous and complex behavior throughout the material, with variations occurring due to the presence of multiple domain walls and domain structures. To identify a specific midpoint or transition region, additional analysis beyond field strength and direction would likely be necessary, such as detailed magnetic domain imaging or other experimental techniques.

    User
    You keep saying that there is a transition at the midpoint. Transition from what to what? What is different on either side of this transition midpoint?

    ChatGPT
    I apologize for any confusion. Let me clarify. In a magnet with multiple magnetic domains, there isn't necessarily a distinct transition or feature at the midpoint between the poles. Each domain has its own magnetization direction, and domain walls separate these domains. The behavior of the magnetic field is continuous and complex throughout the material. So, there isn't a specific transition occurring at a midpoint between the poles; rather, the entire material comprises multiple domains and domain walls. The behavior of the magnetic field changes gradually across the material due to these domain structures.

    User
    Thanks, bi

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  • Turion
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    "Deprived" sickness? Invest in a dictionary dude!

    Last edited by Turion; 11-09-2023, 10:31 PM.

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    Oh Matty,
    I'm pretty sure I WAS the one who started the 3 Battery System thread on this forum. And at the time, I stated I got the idea from a circuit I saw from John Bedini. I think I GAVE credit at the time, and I'm MORE than willing to give it again. Maybe you don't remember that, but it is a true story. Recovery of DC energy while using it to run a load. SImple. Also worth its weight in GOLD.

    And Tesla showed us how to recover DC energy with a Tesla switch way before that. Again, I have given credit to the person who showed us the way. And Benitez did it before Tesla. He should get MAJOR credit.

    I believe YOU were the one who showed, on the USE FOR THE TESLA SWITCH thread how to do some work with that DC energy and recover it by running it through some SPECIFIC devices. You provided instructions on how to build them, and I built all three. You open sourced it.


    But Benitez already SHOWED that. He also shows how to take low voltage DC and convert it to high voltage DC, and how to get out AS MANY AMPS as you have volts when you have created that high voltage. I'm not claiming I "discovered" that either. Just that I researched and read how to do it. Experimented, and what do you know?

    I never claimed what I am working with is "ALL MY" discovery. Why do I need to come up with "an idea" when all that is needed is to apply the research of those that have gone before us? All the pieces are there, and have been for a long time. I'm just working on ways to put them together.

    Are you insinuating that YOU are the one who came up with a method of producing energy with no moving parts? If so, where is it? If you believe what I am doing is somehow based on YOUR work, how could that possibly be, when you say I know NOTHING about your work? I have an email from YOU stating that I can "do whatever I want because I "know NOTHING about your work." Would you like a copy? LOL

    I don't NEED your work. Benitez and Tesla have already shown us all we need to know. We have much better methods of implementing the principles they discovered than they EVER had.

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    bi,
    1800-200 watts output and under 300 watts input (24v at 12 amps) Never said I wasn't interested or that the work isn't going forward, just that it isn't MY PRIORITY. It isn't.

    You guys can whine all you want. I have better things to do.
    Yep sickness.. Deprived sickness, just wanted to make sure it was still intact.

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  • hermesatar
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    Turion, can you publish the schematic of the 600% effectivity Tesla Switch? with partlist? or as I am a protector of free energy knowledge and have an evergrowing linkpage at:

    http://gratisenergi.se/free.htm I would be happy to publish the schematic with partlist? Turion, do you charge your batteries with pulses? Have your heard about the battery effect?

    My french friend Simon Derricutt say that many free energy researcher encounters the battery effect when trying to charge a battery with pulses. They all found out they gain more

    more energy. But after 3-6 months the battery that is charged, suddenly refuse to charge anymore. You can either reply to this post or mail me the information at: hermes@gratisenergi.se

    Best Wishes, Hermes

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  • Turion
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    Oh Matty,
    I'm pretty sure I WAS the one who started the 3 Battery System thread on this forum. And at the time, I stated I got the idea from a circuit I saw from John Bedini. I think I GAVE credit at the time, and I'm MORE than willing to give it again. Maybe you don't remember that, but it is a true story. Recovery of DC energy while using it to run a load. SImple. Also worth its weight in GOLD.

    And Tesla showed us how to recover DC energy with a Tesla switch way before that. Again, I have given credit to the person who showed us the way. And Benitez did it before Tesla. He should get MAJOR credit.

    I believe YOU were the one who showed, on the USE FOR THE TESLA SWITCH thread how to do some work with that DC energy and recover it by running it through some SPECIFIC devices. You provided instructions on how to build them, and I built all three. You open sourced it.


    But Benitez already SHOWED that. He also shows how to take low voltage DC and convert it to high voltage DC, and how to get out AS MANY AMPS as you have volts when you have created that high voltage. I'm not claiming I "discovered" that either. Just that I researched and read how to do it. Experimented, and what do you know?

    I never claimed what I am working with is "ALL MY" discovery. Why do I need to come up with "an idea" when all that is needed is to apply the research of those that have gone before us? All the pieces are there, and have been for a long time. I'm just working on ways to put them together.

    Are you insinuating that YOU are the one who came up with a method of producing energy with no moving parts? If so, where is it? If you believe what I am doing is somehow based on YOUR work, how could that possibly be, when you say I know NOTHING about your work? I have an email from YOU stating that I can "do whatever I want because I "know NOTHING about your work." Would you like a copy? LOL

    I don't NEED your work. Benitez and Tesla have already shown us all we need to know. We have much better methods of implementing the principles they discovered than they EVER had.

    ________________________________________

    bi,
    1800-200 watts output and under 300 watts input (24v at 12 amps) Never said I wasn't interested or that the work isn't going forward, just that it isn't MY PRIORITY. It isn't.

    You guys can whine all you want. I have better things to do.

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  • bistander
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    It's been seven (7) years since Turion butted into a discussion which I was having with UfoPolitics on citfta's thread giving an unsolicited claim of having a generator which output 2kW while using only 240 watts of input. Turion has continued to lie about it since and is no longer interested. Creditability?
    bi

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  • Matthew Jones
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    I have been working on the generation of energy with no moving parts, so the generator is not my highest priority.
    LOL Imagine that. David thought of this idea all by himself. Do you ever think of anything on your own? Poor David lost in his own sick mind, spending the money he stole from his wife. LOL

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  • Turion
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    I haven't heard a word since they got stuff back from the machinist, and I have been way too busy. Will text them and see what is up. I have been working on the generation of energy with no moving parts, so the generator is not my highest priority. If you believe there is recovery of ANY energy in the third battery in the three battery system setup, or in the Tesla Switch setup, then free energy is absolutely possible. If you don't, well then what I am working on would be a waste of your time.

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  • bistander
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    Hey Turion,

    Got an update?
    bi

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  • Alexg800
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    Re: TESLA SWITCH

    Hi Turion,
    for posts here concerning the Tesla Switch, please use a subject as I did. I encourage you to post here rather than the MG thread. And I don't want to confuse comments and data with your generator. Hopefully we can see some data from your buddies soon.
    Regards,
    bi
    edit:

    I am unfamiliar with the Tesla Switch, so I'm going to attach the basic circuit as this place relates. Let me know if this is what you're doing.
    https://studfile.net/preview/8198158/

    Screenshot_20220920-032234-576.png
    Hello,

    I am a new comer in this subject. Would like to ask a question concerning the article (https://studfile.net/preview/8198158/) attached here.

    Mentioned here in the article:

    "They used mechanical switching and stated that below 100 Hz there was not much advantage with the circuit and above 800 Hz it could be dangerous."

    I cannot understand why the frequencies above 800Hz are dangerous. Could anyone explain?
    Last edited by Alexg800; 09-28-2023, 07:57 PM.

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  • Turion
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    We are using the direct drive motor to run the machine. Get it up to speed before inserting the coils. The friend of mine that BUILT Black Beauty originally has a setup using solenoids to push the coils into place after startup. We aren't that sophisticated yet. What we have seen is that when you get it up to speed, you have a specific rpm and amp draw. Then, when the coils are pushed into place, the rpm goes down and the amp draw goes up. If the opposition magnets are then put into place, the rpm goes back up, and the amp draw goes down. What we are still trying to decide is whether or not, in the long run, the reduced output without opposition magnets and the additional COST in required input is worth the cost of a separate rotor, stator, and two sets of magnets. We will see.

    To make up for loss of power with the OLD machine I added more coils, but there is a big difference running with this new core material as opposed to welding rods. Lots of things to work out.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    I do not. Same rotor as in all the videos of this machine I have posted. It's a 12 magnet rotor 3/4" x 3/4" N52 NEOS. I think the opposition magnets have been removed. NOT SURE of that. I haven't seen it yet. Will use a separate rotor for that as they were causing problems.
    Hi Turion,
    thanks for reply. That's why I asked; didn't see provision for your 'opposition' magnets, which are actually anticogging scheme. Separate rotor for that? Really? Ought to be fun!
    I wonder if smaller direct drive motor can start rotating the generator without anticogging in place.
    Good luck.
    bi

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