Charging Hendershot magnetic generator
Referring to post No. 483, if you do a search under patents for "earth inductor compass" you'll find quite a bit of reading material.
Basically, these devices created a weak electrical output resulting from rotation in azimuth (change in heading) of the host vehicle relative to the earth's electrical field. That begs the question in my mind, did Hendershot rotate his device repeatedly clockwise and counter-clockwise on his workbench to charge or initialize the capacitive components. Just a thought.
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Mr Lester J Hendershot's magnetic generator.
Collapse
X
-
I hope everyone had a Peaceful Christmas, and that we can look forward to positive progress in 2014.
Now I might not have replied or posted here recently, but my brain cogitates relentlessly, and whilst we folk are not stupid, we have still failed to unravel the modus-operandii of Hendershot's designs.
So what is it that has either been concealed from us, or has been altered and lied about in order to deliberately throw our minds off course from possibly gaining a fundamental understanding with conceptual recognition ?
Think of a flashgun.
Its capacitor is charged to below the tube firing potential, then a relatively low energy spark causes tube ionisation plus a high energy release, this being followed by battery-psu capacitor recharge for the next flash.
Does not Hendershot's Mk3 embody a flash tube corollary whereby the magnet itself is like the 'battery-psu', and the buzzer iron armature (in a Wesley Gary arrangement) being positioned just inside of the armature's neutral line w.r.t. the large permanent magnet representing the already charged capacitor ?
The armature becomes magnetically 'charged' to a non-saturation portion of its hysteresis chatacteristic, with induced electron orbit alignments physically ordered into a parallel field alignment with respect to the poles of the horseshoe magnet. This is much like a capacitor becoming electrically polarised-charged via a resistor in series with a battery-psu.
A momentary single impulse to the paired Hendershot 'buzzer' coils likely causes a field reversal within the armature to momentarily render it a series alignment w.r.t. the magnet's fixed polarity, this immediately followed by a more intense 'reset' field reversal via its recovery of the parallel alignment empowered by the magnet itself. This parallel field alignment reset following the initial serialising pulse would also be freely transduced as an alternating current electric cycle by those same energising buzzer coils as well.
Clearly the armature to permanent magnet distance would be a critical physical adjustment, as would be the shape and repeat timing of the triggering impulse, such that a half cycle impulse input could become a full cycle and possibly tunable waveform of electrical output.
It is also quite possible that the armature would physically buzz or vibrate as in the Wesley Gary device, though this is not something I remember reading about. Actually there appears to have been a great coyness of mention about Hendershot's buzzer armature alignment and adjustment.
Of course Hendershot's horseshoe magnet was freely capable of redeveloping the parallel magnetic 'charge',
which was then cyclically transduced via the armature as if it were a 'free' supply of 'energy',
and thus I wonder,
could Hendershot have positioned larger diameter circular loudspeaker magnets at some critical distance beneath his iron sleeve cores
(the stainless sleeve core notes being a blinder?)
those magnets then being capable of polarising the circular cores prior to buzzer energised flipping of the fields within them in a transducible flip-flop arrangement ?
Cheers ........... Graham.Last edited by GSM; 12-27-2013, 01:30 PM.
Leave a comment:
-
Earth Induction compass
I just stumbled on a document describing the workings of an Earth Inductor Compass as was used at the time Hendershot started his MK inventions and one of these was used by Charles Lindbergh.
http://eaavintage.org/wp-content/upl...or-Compass.pdf
Leave a comment:
-
Approx size of #008 etc.
Originally posted by mikec_ut View Post
First: I have not had any time to work on any of the external experiments. To list a few, they would be:
1. Induction Compass (to test the interaction of coil #013 and coil #014)
2. Magnetic Amplifier (to test the amplication factor of a coil only circuit)
3. Magnetic Core (to test the strength of a electormagnet with a core that is magnatized)
4. Basket Weave Coil vs Honey Comb Coil (don't know what I am looking for yet)
Second: When looking at the picture and using the dimension method stated my WAG makes the width of the plane body just above the wheels to be about 3 inches across. I don't see coils #013 or #014 on the outside of coil #008, therefore coil #008 can't be much bigger than that width. If you have a different opion please spit it out and lets see what happens.
In general, I think you have done a marvelous job sofar. I hope I will get my materials any time soon and start building my MK1/2 version.
About the tests you have in mind, let's hope you soon get the time to get them executed. We love to hear about any type of progress from your side.
About the coil #008, I think 3'' in width would be fine or 2.5'', but it seems to me the height can only be about 1'', at most 1.5''; that said, of course what you have built is fine, as big differences in size isn't that important. It's all about tuning the different parts. I agree coils #013 and #014 should be inside of coil #008 although we could play later with their position of course just to see what happens. Remember that Hendershot was not a theorist but a very practical man. He always disassembled his toys and later on as a father from his sons toys too to see what was inside. This made him of course a very handy and inventive guy. I know of myself being the same but not regarding toys but regarding televisions, radios, and motorbikes at least I used to be when I was younger. I also took everything apart.
OK, I actually was under the impression you built the MK2 device, thanks for correcting this. I think it is a good decision from you to start where Hendershot already had had considerable experiences and testing to come to what the MK1 was.
What is important here is to - as you already mention - unravel several mysteries that still cloud our minds. What route did Hendershot take after he decided to invent a compass that would point to real North without the negative aspects of the induction compass? Do you have any good information to read over? We may well pick up clues about how to go from there on.
Leave a comment:
-
Not enough time to answer all
Originally posted by pjotterkjen View PostFirst of all, would you be able to comment on those small experiments that you'll work on, and if you did any as of this moment? Also, did you do any of your testing on the MK1 device or did you build the MK2 right from the start?
Secondly, I saw that the dimensions of almost all the coils are well within what I would take as a first guess, with the exception of coil #008. It seems to me that its dimension shown on the pictures is much bigger than what is mentioned in the document, what was the reason for this, maybe the dimensions of the other components that are placed inside (a space restriction issue)?
Third, if I zoom into the coil #008 on the picture then I can see reasonably clear that a type of honeycomb wiring technique is used from the way the wires flow - crossing from one side to the other. But, as both types of wiring can be used to obtain low capacitance, I guess both should be able to do their work fine as long as the necessary resonance frequencies can be obtained.
Fourth, would it be possible to take a picture of what is inside the coil #008 and publish it here? I mean to see the three different coils in there as well as the ring magnet and how you (physically) placed them.
Fifth, how did you manage to let core #028 move freely while having wire #005 to connect to the resonator #002? And would the resonance of #002 be of the same frequency of core #028? Why is the resonator #002 even there? I seem to not quite understand why it is needed for the working of the device.
Sixth, what is your take on the function of the ring magnet #033? According to the Shape Power theory of Dan Davidson a circle concentrated aether flow in its center but I fail to see what its doing to coil #029 and core #028 as this core according to the design is not in the center of ring magnet #033.
First: I have not had any time to work on any of the external experiments. To list a few, they would be:
1. Induction Compass (to test the interaction of coil #013 and coil #014)
2. Magnetic Amplifier (to test the amplication factor of a coil only circuit)
3. Magnetic Core (to test the strength of a electormagnet with a core that is magnatized)
4. Basket Weave Coil vs Honey Comb Coil (don't know what I am looking for yet)
Second: When looking at the picture and using the dimension method stated my WAG makes the width of the plane body just above the wheels to be about 3 inches across. I don't see coils #013 or #014 on the outside of coil #008, therefore coil #008 can't be much bigger than that width. If you have a different opion please spit it out and lets see what happens.
Third: When looking at coil #008 I see a basket weave but others have stated that it might be a honey comb instead?? don't know. I decided to interleave part A and B of coil #008 on the same form instead of part B inside of part A, no reason why just a WAG.
Fourth: The only camera I have does not take closeups (soon to have one I hope) it also has a dead battery, but I can describe what is inside of coil #008. If the prop of the plane is facing North then coil #013 and #014 are inside coil #008, one on the East side and the other on the West side standing vertical with the core facing toward the top and bottom of the plane body. Remember one coil is CW and the other is CCW don't get them backwards. There is just enough room to place coil #007 on its side in the center of coil #008 between coil #013 and #014. I adjusted coil #007 (in the horzional position) to be closer to the South side of coil #008, this means coil #007 is not quite centered within coil #008, but it is centered vertically. The MkI version does not have a ring magnet but the core of coil #007 is a magnet.
Fifth: Coils #028, #029, #030, etc as described, are part of the MkII version. I have not worked on them yet. As for as collector plate #001 and resonator #002 with wire #005 are there is one of the mysteries. IMHO they are part of the oscilator that interacts with coil #007 to break the magnetic field created within coil #007 to allow the magnet core to reenergize the coil and keep the process going?? Don't know how it works yet.
Sixth: Items #028, #029, #030, #031, etc are the replacement parts to allow the plane to face any direction and still function. Unlike the MkI version that must be alligned in a North -South direction. How these item work is another one of the mysteries?? Remember it took Hendershot two years (I believe that's the correct amount of time) to make the MkII version after the MkI demo was given.
Note: The Sixth item above is the only difference between the MkI and MkII version of Hendershots toy planes. All the other parts are the same or very close that it makes no difference.
I hope this help a little. If we can figure out some of the mysteries and make some of the sections work we will have a good shot at getting the MkIII to work as intended.
The adventure continues
Leave a comment:
-
Hi All,
I've not read the last couple of posts here yet - will do shortly.
Recovery has been slower than I imagined, and needed so much quiet rest plus more antibiotics the past few days - really was seriously unwell.
12th Dec pm was first I could look to the right without experiencing obnoxious in-head pains. Today is the first since early Nov I've felt not only hungry for snacks instead of just survival food, but brighter-positive minded too.
So I'm looking forwards to digesting your last here Pjotterkjen; also there is still something fundamental I don't understand about the Mk1/2 that Mikec_ut has taken the trouble to construct and start testing with; and as ever, thx1138 is keeping the informs going too.
Cheers .......... Graham.Last edited by GSM; 12-16-2013, 01:47 PM.
Leave a comment:
-
Some first observations and questions
Originally posted by mikec_ut View Post
There are lots of small experiments that I need to work on, association with this build.
First of all, would you be able to comment on those small experiments that you'll work on, and if you did any as of this moment? Also, did you do any of your testing on the MK1 device or did you build the MK2 right from the start?
Secondly, I saw that the dimensions of almost all the coils are well within what I would take as a first guess, with the exception of coil #008. It seems to me that its dimension shown on the pictures is much bigger than what is mentioned in the document, what was the reason for this, maybe the dimensions of the other components that are placed inside (a space restriction issue)?
Third, if I zoom into the coil #008 on the picture then I can see reasonably clear that a type of honeycomb wiring technique is used from the way the wires flow - crossing from one side to the other. But, as both types of wiring can be used to obtain low capacitance, I guess both should be able to do their work fine as long as the necessary resonance frequencies can be obtained.
Fourth, would it be possible to take a picture of what is inside the coil #008 and publish it here? I mean to see the three different coils in there as well as the ring magnet and how you (physically) placed them.
Fifth, how did you manage to let core #028 move freely while having wire #005 to connect to the resonator #002? And would the resonance of #002 be of the same frequency of core #028? Why is the resonator #002 even there? I seem to not quite understand why it is needed for the working of the device.
Sixth, what is your take on the function of the ring magnet #033? According to the Shape Power theory of Dan Davidson a circle concentrated aether flow in its center but I fail to see what its doing to coil #029 and core #028 as this core according to the design is not in the center of ring magnet #033.
Then, about the possible working of the device... most interesting. We have the following components:
1. The collector and core
2. The 1st electromagnetic amplifier
3. The 2nd electromagnetic amplifier
4. The output load (the AC or DC motor) (connected to 3)
The collector and core #028 are connected electrically. So if the collector acts as an antenna then the signal is transported to the core #028. I have read the theory of how the atom maintains its perpetual motion as explained by Maurice Cotterell (Maurice Cotterell and in specific http://www.mauricecotterell.com/down...rks%20Web.pdf), among others like Dan Davidson and Arthur Aho. Cotterell states that the particles that comprise the atom receive energy from ambient heat and light. Then the atom itself radiates this energy towards the core of the earth. Primary motors of radiation are the hydrogen and helium atoms. Other atoms also receive their energy from ambient heat and light.
This specific effect (aetheric flow causing atoms to spin and align) could also take place in the collector, where the aether from space flows perpendicular through the collector and alters the atoms spin in such a way (synchronizing many of them in small areas) that small eddy currents develop. These small eddy currents add up to small position changes in the core #028 through wire #005, which are then picked up by coil #029.
Then we have the second circuit, which should be able to pick up those small voltage variations in coil #029. This is the closed circuit within coil #008. This circuit, if tuned well, will amplify the small signal changes in coil #029. Both circuits will need to be in close resonance with each other, just like the two Hendershot capcoils in the MK3 design. The reason why there aren't any capacitors in this circuit (nor in the other parts) is because at the time using capacitors to change resonance frequency was likely not yet widely applied (all was done using coils), and of course each coil exposes an intrinsic capacitance value, and therefore each component has its own resonance frequency.
Next, we have the third circuit, where coil #008 picks up signals amplified by the second circuit. Again, tuning this circuit is of critical importance. The load, which is the motor, must be part of the circuit when tuning because when connected the overall resonance frequency of the interconnected coils will change. So, changes from coil #008 are being picked up by coil #004 and this starts the oscillation in coils #019, #022, and #025. This energy, produced by aetheric disturbance, and amplified through the series of three coils is absorbed in the motor by turning it around (kinetic energy). We need to find out still exactly how are the coils wound - CW or CCW.
So, after having separated the various parts into several circuits, I think that the best approach would be to start with the collector / resonator / coil-core and measure signals produced on coil #029. The input on the collector plate should be just light and heat and expose it to natural aether flow.
I just wonder if at the time Hendershot developed this device because of strong aetheric disturbances caused by powerful transmitters nearby (we can assume not much was regulated regarding harmonics then, for example), so this type of collector was maybe AT THE TIME a sufficient component to get sufficient signals (aetheric disturbances) to start oscillation of the next circuits. If so, different collectors should be tried. As a guide, Dan Davidson explains that using specific shapes you can actually amplify aetheric flow through a component. So maybe a cone, or a pyramid, or simply an assymetric capacitor could be used to pick up aetheric distortions.
I hope to be able to start building my MK2 device any time soon, but first I need to gather materials and I'm having trouble finding a good resource for wires; if anyone knows of a good supplier near the border of Mexico, or in Texas, then please do not hesitate to publish your links. TIA!
Onward, pjotterkjen
Leave a comment:
-
Magnetism at Optical Frequencies
If found this article today. The illustration in Figure 1a jumped right out at me. I'll have to digest it a bit but at first reading it seems to support GSM's theories about the LJH device.
http://cmp.physics.iastate.edu/souko...ations/295.pdf
Leave a comment:
-
Materials list
The attached file is the research I've done on locating materials to build this device. It's all American suppliers so someone else could possibly put together something similar for other areas. I have a spreadsheet but this forum doesn't allow Excel file uploads. Click the links in the document to see examples. I'm not necessarily recommending these items - just showing examples.
Update:
I noticed today that the link in the document for the old telephone ringer coils isn't working. It's a problem with their site. Use the following link to see the ringer coils:
PHONECO magneto telephone phone crank breastplate
About 1/3 of the way down the page, in the right hand column is a picture of the device. Click on it and you will get the same error. But if you want to order it, the part # is "OLDRI".
I also had another thought on the source material for the iron armature: cut one out of an old brake drum or rotor.Last edited by thx1138; 01-03-2015, 01:57 AM.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by GSM View Post
It would be a good idea to have a sticky thread (always on top) and set up a black list of disinfo, easy to documentate and easy to point possible victims to.
If you try to close the page the product is offered to you for 37 bucks, 10 dollar less... so damn typical!
Leave a comment:
-
Transformer VA rating
Originally posted by GSM View PostHi thx1138,
Just found this link -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVF4BsDznAo
Note at the end of this video, this 'hands-on' guy states he has noted ratios between 6:1 and 12:1.
I believe Hendershot stated 5:1, but whatever, any particular type used within a TV would must depend upon tube size and the associated type of deflection yoke assembly.
A range of transformer voltages available via transformers like the ones I provided the link for can also be purchased without breaking the bank, so maybe it would be worth buying and trying transformer pairs with 15Vac and 12Vac secondaries as well.
Also do please note the size. Imagine a battery charger transformer of that size and what its maximum current rating would be, say 2A fused maximum, therefore not more than 20VA.
I would consider 200VA or larger to be much bigger than necessary, and quite incapable of fitting within the Hendershot cores as has been photographed.
Cheers ............... Graham.
Taking your hint about size, I've looked at a number of different modern transformers and 40VA seems to be about right judging by the 6" X 3" size of the cap/coil assembly. The transformer top is below the inner edge of the cap but not by much and the width appears to be such that two would fit inside easily. So going by 2.75" high and 2.50" wide a modern 5:1 transformer would typically be a 40VA unit.
But that's with modern materials. While the magnetic aspects haven't changed any in the interim, materials science surely has so the transformers from the 50's and earlier may have had lower VA ratings for the same size. In the U.S. we have 120V AC so a 5:1 winding ratio yields a 24V secondary and 24V is widely used for control circuits so they are plentiful.
I'm fairly ignorant about the effects of saturation on this circuit so I guess the deciding construction criteria, without getting into custom wound transformers, would be the E/I lamination construction so that we could take them apart and add a small gap to reduce the saturation if needed.
So I'm going with the modern 40VA transformers with E/I laminations in my materials list. Will post it soon. Thanks for the info.
Leave a comment:
-
hyiq site
Originally posted by wings View Post
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by pjotterkjen View PostThanks this is awesome information which will allow me to start collecting materials.
Was kind of busy the whole week with my regular job - most often it does - but now it's weekend so that means I got some spare time to start looking at exactly what Hendershot was connecting to get electromagnetic resonance going and obtain amplification of the energy provided by the aetheric distortions. This document looks like it's going to help me advance.
Thanks again for posting this and I'll be back with my observations.
Leave a comment:
-
Originally posted by mikec_ut View Post@pjotterkjen
Sorry for the delay, time is not always kind for those that wait. I have got a PDF doc on my project and will attach it here.
There are lots of small experiments that I need to work on, association with this build. Hopefully I will be able to get a better Wild Ass Guess (WAG) as to wire size and coil size and placement as these experiments are completed. With my limited time experiment are slow but I am still working on this project.
Was kind of busy the whole week with my regular job - most often it does - but now it's weekend so that means I got some spare time to start looking at exactly what Hendershot was connecting to get electromagnetic resonance going and obtain amplification of the energy provided by the aetheric distortions. This document looks like it's going to help me advance.
Thanks again for posting this and I'll be back with my observations.
Leave a comment:
-
Hi thx1138,
Just found this link -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVF4BsDznAo
Note at the end of this video, this 'hands-on' guy states he has noted ratios between 6:1 and 12:1.
I believe Hendershot stated 5:1, but whatever, any particular type used within a TV would must depend upon tube size and the associated type of deflection yoke assembly.
A range of transformer voltages available via transformers like the ones I provided the link for can also be purchased without breaking the bank, so maybe it would be worth buying and trying transformer pairs with 15Vac and 12Vac secondaries as well.
Also do please note the size. Imagine a battery charger transformer of that size and what its maximum current rating would be, say 2A fused maximum, therefore not more than 20VA.
I would consider 200VA or larger to be much bigger than necessary, and quite incapable of fitting within the Hendershot cores as has been photographed.
Cheers ............... Graham.
Leave a comment:
Leave a comment: