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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by wings View Post
    like this? (from the base you can recover energy)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFc4wriBvE
    Hi Wings; Isn't that an excellent video !!!!!

    It demonstrates how independent oscillations can be 'reactively tuned' to become phase coherent.

    Initiate an impulse in an AC soft iron circuit and the pendulums are always energised one way.
    Remove the source and without load their moment (back-EMF) becomes a damped oscillation.

    However;
    where a core flips polarity about its physical macro 'neutral zone' position wrt a magnet,
    this is a transducible one way - NON OSCILLATORY - event,
    yet one which may be arranged to be continuously on-going,
    via mechanical (Wesley Gary), electrical (Hubbard) or both methods (Hendershot) induction,
    and where two pulses may be transduced for every single initial reversal energised.

    This video demonstrates *continuous* two dimensionally resonant *oscillation*, where force and resultant amplutide become tunably phase separated in time, and where there will be a brief damped physical 'back-EMF-like' reducing to zero oscillation if the energy source is removed (all pendulums suddenly not driven but still free to swing).

    Whereas Gary and Hendershot clearly use critical mechanical armature positioning to induce on-going Schmitt Trigger like magnetic field reversals, where the energy necessary for oscillatory mechanical energisation (Hendershot - resonant) is effectively mechanically decoupled from any of the reactively related armature-core-coil losses and back-EMF effects, the theory of which we are indoctrinated in via AC Theory 'education' !!!!!

    Cheers ........... Graham.
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    Last edited by GSM; 11-17-2013, 11:33 AM.

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  • pjotterkjen
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    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    Going through my notes;

    The long and not-connected strip of C1 was wound directly against the stainless steel core though separated by paper insulation.
    According to designs published it were the two short alu strips that were wrapped first over the thick paper layer, together with the thin paper and then the long alu strip.

    (just making counternotes as I'm reading up on the thread to the end; if it was already spotted then I apologize)

    Onwards!

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  • wings
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    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    Like me ?
    I am one who writes that neither perpetual motion, nor ZPE, exist.

    However.
    The energies stored within atomic nucleii, or their *already energised* orbiting electrons (little gyroscopes) CAN be transduced if that energy is released,
    especially when atoms are in a matrix pattern such that their co-axially aligned electron spin-orbits constitute an induced or 'permanent' magnetic field pattern about the body of matter they are a physically component of.

    That electron orbit aligned permanent magnet field may be used to induce a secondary electron orbit alignment within a nearby conductor or completely separate soft-iron-steel body.

    Conventional COP<1 alternator-generator-motor arrangements are via coil cores and/or winding arrangements which relate to *SINGLE* magnetic circuits of stator-magnet field-line cutting motion.

    However, Lester Hendershot's and Wesley Gary's buzzer like armature relationships relate to isolated core induction relationships from *BOTH* poles of a single horseshoe magnet, and a longitudinal solenoidal overwind related to that core.
    (Lester's overwound component is the pair of ringer cores.)

    As I asked earlier;- Why are horse-shoe shaped neodimium magnets not available ?
    Well both of these gentlemen would have been able to answer that question *85* and *135* years ago respectively; for they could both have made excellent use of same.

    Neither Lester nor Wesley needed our modern ‘science’ and ‘maths’ education to understand the intermediate capacitor-like storage effect within a soft iron/ steel core which their own *hands-on* investigations so clearly demonstrated.

    Where a permanent magnet can induce electron orbit re-alignment magnetism within a nearby iron core,
    the associated field within the core may be 'discharge' transduced or alternated via some mechanically cycling or electro-mechanical arrangement,
    into a continuously alternating electrical supply,
    this being due to the nature of soft iron itself, plus some steels,

    BUT where,
    at some critical distance between the magnet and core,

    a slight alternation of mechanical or field coupling from both poles of the permanent magnet,
    or the coil's mechanical core or field coupling with respect to a fixed bipolar field source,

    the induced field coupling within the core will suddenly alternate between series and parallel induction, (or parallel-series)
    as if by itself,
    with electron orbit alignment reversals (precessions) within the core,
    representing two transducible Schmitt trigger like energetic output pulses,
    for just one unipolar half cycle of electrical or mechanical input energisation.

    Both Lester Hendershot and Wesley Gary generated electrical output without claiming perpetual motion, for both clarified that their magnets were not permanent and would need recharging (neodimiums!), and both knew that it was the oscillating magnetic arrangements which generated their energy, not ZPE.

    Hence one old drawing relating to the 'Hendershot Magnetronic Generator', and here I have been discussing the buzzer cores only, not the twin induced core-cap reactivities.


    Cheers .............. Graham.
    like this? (from the base you can recover energy)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFc4wriBvE
    Last edited by wings; 11-15-2013, 07:52 PM.

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  • Ruphus
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    epoxy and neo magnets

    Just an FYI the use of epoxies with steel filing such as liquid steel will effect the magnet's field strength. A clear epoxy usually works the best.

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
    Judging an idea by its enemies though makes me wonder
    because the same people who denigrate ZPE are the same people who say perpetual motion machines are impossible.
    Like me ?
    I am one who writes that neither perpetual motion, nor ZPE, exist.

    However.
    The energies stored within atomic nucleii, or their *already energised* orbiting electrons (little gyroscopes) CAN be transduced if that energy is released,
    especially when atoms are in a matrix pattern such that their co-axially aligned electron spin-orbits constitute an induced or 'permanent' magnetic field pattern about the body of matter they are a physically component of.

    That electron orbit aligned permanent magnet field may be used to induce a secondary electron orbit alignment within a nearby conductor or completely separate soft-iron-steel body.

    Conventional COP<1 alternator-generator-motor arrangements are via coil cores and/or winding arrangements which relate to *SINGLE* magnetic circuits of stator-magnet field-line cutting motion.

    However, Lester Hendershot's and Wesley Gary's buzzer like armature relationships relate to isolated core induction relationships from *BOTH* poles of a single horseshoe magnet, and a longitudinal solenoidal overwind related to that core.
    (Lester's overwound component is the pair of ringer cores.)

    As I asked earlier;- Why are horse-shoe shaped neodimium magnets not available ?
    Well both of these gentlemen would have been able to answer that question *85* and *135* years ago respectively; for they could both have made excellent use of same.

    Neither Lester nor Wesley needed our modern ‘science’ and ‘maths’ education to understand the intermediate capacitor-like storage effect within a soft iron/ steel core which their own *hands-on* investigations so clearly demonstrated.

    Where a permanent magnet can induce electron orbit re-alignment magnetism within a nearby iron core,
    the associated field within the core may be 'discharge' transduced or alternated via some mechanically cycling or electro-mechanical arrangement,
    into a continuously alternating electrical supply,
    this being due to the nature of soft iron itself, plus some steels,

    BUT where,
    at some critical distance between the magnet and core,

    a slight alternation of mechanical or field coupling from both poles of the permanent magnet,
    or the coil's mechanical core or field coupling with respect to a fixed bipolar field source,

    the induced field coupling within the core will suddenly alternate between series and parallel induction, (or parallel-series)
    as if by itself,
    with electron orbit alignment reversals (precessions) within the core,
    representing two transducible Schmitt trigger like energetic output pulses,
    for just one unipolar half cycle of electrical or mechanical input energisation.

    Both Lester Hendershot and Wesley Gary generated electrical output without claiming perpetual motion, for both clarified that their magnets were not permanent and would need recharging (neodimiums!), and both knew that it was the oscillating magnetic arrangements which generated their energy, not ZPE.

    Hence one old drawing relating to the 'Hendershot Magnetronic Generator', and here I have been discussing the buzzer cores only, not the twin induced core-cap reactivities.


    Cheers .............. Graham.
    Last edited by GSM; 11-15-2013, 12:27 PM.

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
    I guess I could build it both ways and see if it makes a difference. Or maybe use the PVC jacketed solid wire and put spacers between the windings to get the proper conductor separation.
    https://www.radioshack.com/product/i...ductId=2049743
    Minute Man Electronics 20 Gauge Solid Hook&#45;Up Wire


    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
    I also need ideas about how to lock down the neo magnets since they don't have any mounting holes and there will be some vibration. I was thinking about an epoxy casting with only the ends of the U exposed but am not sure what effect, if any, the epoxy might have on the magnetic field.
    With flat surfaces, and strong clamping whilst it bonds, I can confirm that ordinary superglue holds VERY well.

    Cheers .............. Graham.

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  • thx1138
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    Zpe

    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    Did Wesley Gary, Hubbard, Hendershot etc. ever say that their equipments ran on ZPE ?
    Don't know but it's a pretty well established theory developed by the likes of Albert Einstein and Max Planck. Harnessing it would be an altogether different story .

    Judging an idea by its enemies though makes me wonder because the same people who denigrate ZPE are the same people who say perpetual motion machines are impossible. I'll buy that when someone can prove that atoms don't exist.

    One of my favorite sayings: "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is."

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  • thx1138
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    Insulated solid copper 20 AWG wire

    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    I also came across this just last week -
    LOT 3 NEW BELDEN 8523-002 RED PVC HOOK UP WIRE 20 AWG 100FT D219018 | eBay
    Different colours are available.
    The Hendershot notes say 20 AWG insulated solid copper. The Belden wire you listed is 10X30 Tinned Copper stranded wire:
    Belden 8523 Hook-up/Lead

    I heard back from a man at Belden but he sent me scanned pages from a 1941 Belden Catalog for enameled copper. I replied back asking about jacketed but haven't yet received a reply.

    I did, however, find this on an antique radio site which is pretty close but I think too large - 0.120" to 0.125". The colors got my attention, noting that the Hendershot notes said he used colored wire even in the early models. This looks like modern wire dressed up to do antique radio restorations.
    20 Gauge Solid 600 Volt Cloth Covered Wire

    I guess I could build it both ways and see if it makes a difference. Or maybe use the PVC jacketed solid wire and put spacers between the windings to get the proper conductor separation.

    I got some paying work in the door this week so it may be a bit before I get the full parts list together.

    I also need ideas about how to lock down the neo magnets since they don't have any mounting holes and there will be some vibration. I was thinking about an epoxy casting with only the ends of the U exposed but am not sure what effect, if any, the epoxy might have on the magnetic field.

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  • wings
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    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    There is something I forgot to mention whilst writing that post, and maybe this omission actually led to the words of that post being clearer in isolation than if I had actually mentioned it ...

    This aspect we should ALL FORGET is Zero Point Energy !

    There is no such thing.
    It is a mind**** developed by those incapable of understanding Physics in its entirety, and who thus invent this term as a bluff via which they can establish their supposedly and often highly qualified 'superior understanding'.

    If you find anyone using this term then you ask them to STATE exactly what it is their mind wanderings are imagining !

    Exponents of ZPE make up this impossibilty, not only because they do not themselves understand, but they are not willing to admit it either, and sadly there are highly qualified peer group educators who disseminate falsehoods about ZPE as if it is fact in order that students might also believe same and therefore suffer similarly stymied mind development.

    Did Wesley Gary, Hubbard, Hendershot etc. ever say that their equipments ran on ZPE ?

    Cheers ................ Graham.
    from my understanding ZPE act like Superradiance


    Superradiance and ferromagnetic behaviour - Springer
    http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0209627v1.pdf

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by GSM View Post

    Been doing much more thinking ----------------
    There is something I forgot to mention whilst writing that post, and maybe this omission actually led to the words of that post being clearer in isolation than if I had actually mentioned it ...

    This aspect we should ALL FORGET is Zero Point Energy !

    There is no such thing.
    It is a mind**** developed by those incapable of understanding Physics in its entirety, and who thus invent this term as a bluff via which they can establish their supposedly and often highly qualified 'superior understanding'.

    If you find anyone using this term then you ask them to STATE exactly what it is their mind wanderings are imagining !

    Exponents of ZPE make up this impossibilty, not only because they do not themselves understand, but they are not willing to admit it either, and sadly there are highly qualified peer group educators who disseminate falsehoods about ZPE as if it is fact in order that students might also believe same and therefore suffer similarly stymied mind development.

    Did Wesley Gary, Hubbard, Hendershot etc. ever say that their equipments ran on ZPE ?

    Cheers ................ Graham.

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Just an idea...
    Bob
    No correction - and yes more good sharing.

    You mention resonance, and would that not be especially suitable for when driving a synchronous (boat) motor !
    Not so sure if resonance would be of any value with a resistive load though.

    Cheers .......... Graham.

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  • Bob Smith
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    Originally posted by GSM View Post
    Okay - The compass illustrated the field change within the rod.

    Hence, superimpose an alternation upon an already adjusted fixed polarity of magnetic field strength mechanically aligned to almost tip over the field of a nearby core or armature into a transducible field reversal, and you could gain two pulses for a single pulse input. Arrange eight alike solenoids around a central bar generating a 360 degree horse-shoe like field and you have a Hubbard like replication.

    Cheers .............. Graham.
    Thanks for that further elaboration, Graham. So, with this Hubbard-like replication, the central core windings must be pulsed, so that the core becomes an on-off electromagnet, with the outer solenoids placed within this tipping zone. And just as your compass swung first one way, then the other (with the rod's relative approach and movement away from the horse shoe magnet's poles), so too, we get two precession waves (and electric impulses on each solenoid) per inner core pulse, as you state in your response. -- Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    I'm thinking about reactive losses in this system between the core primary and eight outer solenoids. Here's a thought...
    If the inner core were wound with a series-bifilar primary and a single stranded secondary overtop (in series), you could sidestep reactive losses from the outer solenoids, I believe. With the swbf primary, you effectively have a hi voltage, low current LC setup that can pulse into the secondary. If you had the 8 solenoids wound identical to the secondary, would they not effectively become resonant coils (provided the secondary gets to resonance) as well as producing the double impulse?
    Just an idea...
    Bob
    Last edited by Bob Smith; 11-13-2013, 10:48 PM. Reason: clarification

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  • GSM
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    Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
    Thanks Graham for all this. It helps me better understand these inventions, and why the compass acted the way it did in your video.
    Be well.
    Bob
    Okay - The compass illustrated the field change within the rod.

    Wesley Gary Neutral Zone - Video Dailymotion

    The field in the rod was reversing even though the magnet had been moved but a fraction of an inch.
    The magnet did not cause this reversal - the rod did !

    As Wesley Gary explained there is an imaginary 'neutral line' about which the induced field within an armature, core or rod becomes reversed with respect to the fixed magnet field itself.
    This is either a series or parallel field alignment within the rod related to its interaction with the magnet field lines between the magnetic poles.
    Either the magnet field goes through the rod N>S then N>S between the poles and the rod, with series electron spin alignment;
    or;
    the field lines around the rod align in the same direction as the field lines between the magnet poles with parallel electron spin alignment.
    and thereafter;
    the electron orbits through the entire length of the rod become aligned with those which self organise in response to the magnet field.

    Wesley Gary's Magnetic Motor

    If a spiral coil is wound over the rod it will freely transduce the electron spin/ magnetic field reversals resulting from the fractional mechanical movement.
    If the magnet power is increased the 'neutral line' balance point moves further away from the rod.
    If the rod is fully overwound, say overall out to three times the inner core diameter, and a more powerful horseshoe magnet is moved radially beside it as in the video it will light first one then another of two reverse connected LEDs as magnet field line influence induces core reversal; and the faster the magnet is moved radially closer to or away from the core within the solenois, then the brighter and more continuous the LED illumination becomes; just as if cutting field lines at right angles with conventional magnetic induction, but not.

    Hence, superimpose an alternation upon an already adjusted fixed polarity of magnetic field strength mechanically aligned to almost tip over the field of a nearby core or armature into a transducible field reversal, and you could gain two pulses for a single pulse input. Arrange eight alike solenoids around a central bar generating a 360 degree horse-shoe like field and you have a Hubbard like replication.

    Suppose stator like armature/ cores were interspaced around an alternator like Hendershot motor rotor, and those armature/ cores were close to the neutral zone position of radially surrounding horse-shoe magnets.
    Would we all not say that such an arrangement could not possibly work, but could the fields of those stators be reactively induced to alternate once the rotor was spun up to a specific speed with a resonant motor capacitor connected between rotor slip ring terminals ?

    Cheers .............. Graham.
    Last edited by GSM; 11-13-2013, 09:10 PM.

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  • Bob Smith
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    Thanks Graham for all this. It helps me better understand these inventions, and why the compass acted the way it did in your video.
    Be well.
    Bob

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  • GSM
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    Hi thx1138.

    It has been a while since I posted here - mixture of jobs to do, being unwell and different thinking about other energy devices.

    Regarding your last -

    I don't see any disadvantage in using centre polarising neodi magnets with suitably shaped horse-shoe fabricating steel pole pieces (90 degree flate plate brackets). My feeling is that the neutral line alignments between magnet and armature and armature and buzzer coils will be appropriately adjustable.

    I also came across this just last week -
    LOT 3 NEW BELDEN 8523-002 RED PVC HOOK UP WIRE 20 AWG 100FT D219018 | eBay
    Different colours are available.

    Think I remember reading that the Hendershot buzzer coils were also 20AWG enamelled, so if they arrive different, it would not be difficult for us to rewind a pair of large telephone bell ringer cores to match Lester's specification.

    Been doing much more thinking ----------------

    It has occurred to me that the different so called "Free Energy" devices need to be split up into two basic categories, with those generating either electrical or mechanical output as a result of purely magnetic field induced *atom electron related* spin orbit reversals (Wesley Gary, Hendershot Mk1+2); this 'mechanism' being quite different to those devices which utilise *atom nucleus related* "Freed" Energy due to magnetic field induced electron action within a nucleus (Hendershot Mk3, Akula, Kapanadze)

    Field energised 'electron' spin devices will run down as their magnetic sources lose (atomic alignment) retained polarity, though modern neodi type magnets have an atomic structure capable of lasting years (decades?) even under the most field degrading of conditions possible (as long as kept cool).

    Field energised 'nucleus' change (physical change of atom nucleus not just alignments) related devices release energy via the induction of modification within the nucleii of non-radioactive atoms , such as with iron Fe>Mn (Hendershot Mk3, Mace-Mayer), cobalt Co>Fe (Colman), copper Cu>Ni(Akula), brass (Kapanadze).
    This being the reason why *all* of those 'Freed Energy' nucleus change devices always stop working, no matter how much essential ongoing re-tuning efforts are made to counter the atomic matter based parameters become changed; eventually beyond revival, and requiring repair or rebuild.

    Hence I have concluded that the Hendershot Mk3 was a development utilising balanced tin can cores, originally made to oscillate with longitudinal axial field resonance, and tuned by a single aluminium foil capacitor,
    but which,
    via considerable field induction effects became nucleus modifying and thus able to operable via several different circuit connections of the same coils inducing the gyroscopic electron spins within the cores.
    Phase-amplitude relationships led to core resonance 'tuning' being so difficult not just set up, but maintain, and this is why the device *always* ceased operation afterwards as specific spin-field points of iron matter within the can cores *unavoidably* became used up.

    Right at the beginning of this thread Chris W implored me to understand the original Mk1+2 designs which eventually led to development of the Hendershot Mk3. I stuck with the Mk3 and its atomic *nucleus* relationships, but wonder if Chris made any progress himself, or has he left this scene entirely.

    Working back from the Mk3 I now realise that the MK1+2, and indeed the Mk3 buzzer are implementations of atomic *electron* orbit related fundamental magnetic properties of iron, as had previosly been experimented upon and reported by Wesley Gary in his Patent Grants.
    He showed that an iron armature/ core could reverse its own lines of magnetic field in the presence of a horse-shoe (not bar unipolar) field and thus the iron itself could cause motion or generate electricity independently of any magnet attraction reactionary force between the magnet and that iron armature.

    So recently I have been hands-on with different Wesley Gary related investigations, these leading me to an understanding of the Hubbard Generator, and also opening up more possibilities in relation to Hendershot's original 'motor' design, even though a motor is not where my interests lie.

    Cheers ................... Graham.

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