Ionization & Water Fuel

[pengrove]

Grazie mile Tutanka

I think that what happens is this, you use adiabatic ionization to negatively charge water and probably a fogger to create a fog of charged water droplets than you mix with the " active nitrogen" positively charged ionized air and than give the mix to the engine... Is that right???

(to charge negatively the water by induction (polarize) would need small energy, than you ionize the air (polarize)with small energy too and the mix of both become fuel...

???

I would say that you are damn close.

[sebosfato]

Grazie mile Tutanka

I think that what happens is this, you use adiabatic ionization to negatively charge water and probably a fogger to create a fog of charged water droplets than you mix with the " active nitrogen" positively charged ionized air and than give the mix to the engine... Is that right???

(to charge negatively the water by induction (polarize) would need small energy, than you ionize the air (polarize)with small energy too and the mix of both become fuel...

???

[vrand]

NO SECRETS.. I use bi-distilled water PH 6.5 made in Carlo Erba industries.. that is very stable and certified..

Thanks

ROMIL-UpS Ultra Purity Solvents - Specifications

Water UpS CAS [7732-18-5]
Residue <0.00005%
Resistivity (at time of manufacture) >

How many liters do you use in an engine? 1 Liter per 100 km? 1 Liter per 500 km?

Regards

[tutanka]

Do you buy your distilled water or make your own? Would Reverse Osmoses (RO) + de-ionized (DI) water be better?



Regards

NO SECRETS.. I use bi-distilled water PH 6.5 made in Carlo Erba industries.. that is very stable and certified..

[vrand]

Questo vi aiuta a comprendere... That help you a lot.. Water is very important part in that process

Do you buy your distilled water or make your own? Would Reverse Osmoses (RO) + de-ionized (DI) water be better?

pH of Distilled Water
pH of Distilled Water | Kangen Water Report

Now with that explanation understood, distilled water will test out in a range of pH 5.5-5.8. The reason is that distilled water dissolves carbon dioxide from the air. It dissolves carbon dioxide until it is in dynamic equilibrium with the atmosphere. That means that the amount being dissolved balances the amount coming out of solution. The total amount in the water is determined by the concentration in the atmosphere. The dissolved carbon dioxide reacts with the water and finally forms carbonic acid.

Distilled water tends to be acidic and can only be recommended as a way of drawing poisons out of the body. Dr. Theodore Baroody, in his book “Alkalize or Die”, offers a list of symptoms that may be precipitated by Acidosis:

Regards

[tutanka]

From Meyer documentation..

Queste parole vi aiuteranno a capire.. These words help you to understand..

[pengrove]

Well it looks like tutanka is the only rational inventor on the planet. I smell greed horribly bad around here. If Rosco and the groups lives start falling to pieces the reason will be bad karma. When something that you are working on could effect massive amounts of people you better tread lightly.

[tutanka]

tabella reazioni .. reaction table

Questo vi aiuta a comprendere... That help you a lot.. Water is very important part in that process

[tutanka]

How did you determine you were making hydrazine? Did you do a Gas chromatography?

Regards

[sebosfato]

Hi Aaron,

Metals suitable for emission are on the left side of the periodic table because their work function are more suitable or lower energy is needed for emission, but anyway they can't be used in the combustion chamber or where you have oxygen because the same fact that make them good emitters makes them react violently with water and oxygen. They can be used only at vacuum. Like thermionic tubes...
This elements are potassium, sodium, lithium, cesium...
Regards

[sebosfato]

Maybe use platinum spark plugs?

I think that there is no meaning to use platinum in the combustion chamber.

Because if there is hydrogen inside the combustion chamber it will explode before the spark yet during the compression.

I wrote this about hydrazine to try to understand why you talk about hydrazine.
Because it could be used only with direct injection system... because of what is wrote below.
For me seem a contradiction, compressing it!!! (you said is possible to use it without injector) so for me he is not doing hydrazine... You might have if it really is only ammonia.

Read this again:
Why hydrazine?
"Platinum-group metal catalysis such as platinum black and Raney nickel are incompatible with hydrazine, causing exothermic decomposition. A hydrazine-oxygen mixture in the presence of platinum ignites at a mere 30 C, while hydrazine-air mixtures on an iron rust surface ignite at 24 C and on a metal burner ignite at 130 C. On glass surfaces, auto-ignition temperature is 270 C. Contact with many porous substances such as rusty surfaces, earth, asbestos, wood, or cloth can cause oxidation or explosion.

Hydrazine spontaneously explodes upon contact with calcium oxide, barium oxide, iron oxides, copper oxide, chromate salts, and many others. Calcium is a possible metal tank alloy ingredient, the oxide of which forms on tank surfaces. Metallic manganese, lead, and copper alloys also spontaneously participate in violent reactions. It is incompatable with ammonia and with organic compounds containing easily reduced functional groups. Hazardous polymerisation does not occur, however.

All flammable liquids, inclusing hydrazine, are incompatable with chemicals such as nitrates, permanganates, chromic acid, hydrogen peroxide, nitric acid, sodium peroxide, halogens, or halogenated chemicals such as phosphorous tetrachloride, oxidizing materials, and highly oxygenated or halogenated solvents.

Hydrazine is sometimes listed as incompatable with metals and combustable materials, as its presence greatly increases burning rates in an oxygenated environment such as Earth."
from:
Artemis Project: All About Hydrazine

[Aaron]

Langmuir

Maybe use platinum spark plugs?

You're right - plugs. But we don't want platinum.

But that is where the other metal is.

Langmuir invented the term Plasma and thermionic emissions were a crucial
part of this research.

Lateral Science - Atomic Hydrogen Welding
Lateral Science - Atomic Hydrogen Blowtorch

Sebosfato pointed out that the normal engine metals won't
be hot enough for any kind of thermionic emissions and I
mentioned that some other metal may be considered.

So what metal is it?

[1NRG24Seven]

IF platinum were to be used, where in the combustion chamber would
it be?

Maybe use platinum spark plugs?

[Aaron]

platinum

As far as Platinum goes Aaron I would Think it would behoove us to use it in the Combustion Chamber if at all. It's reactive with Hydrogen isn't it?

IF platinum were to be used, where in the combustion chamber would
it be?

[vrand]

Experiment mentioned from you is about NH3 and platinum wire with oxygen bubbled inside.. however inside meyer injection system isn't present an important stage, an reactor that transform water mist/air/nitrogen into hydrazine.. regards

How did you determine you were making hydrazine? Did you do a Gas chromatography?

Regards