Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

The name that is seen in one of my photos of the Gas Processor was selected for that primary reason. If one where to look up the name they would get somewhere, unlike trying to look up the word gas processor. Coherent light is also in the name I chose to give it so anyone looking into my teachings would know that defused light won't work in this application. I also put up the eV joule information, as I've said before I really didn't leave anything out. I also gave a site that showed 73 wavelengths that are absorbed by oxygen and also stated there more. The hardest part is trying to determin which wavelengths work best together to aid the whole process the best. I gave my best guess and will give it a try in few weeks for it is easy to replace LEDs.


h2opower.

[CPU3rother]

@Oneminde
It was good for me

This is a good read on Nitrogen and Oxygen interactions
Chemical of the Week -- Ozone

[Oneminde]

That's correct I was referring to radiant intensity. Not all photons are created equal. They can be emitted with various energy, at least as far as we can measure. A single photon at about 500nm has 3.97x10E-19 Joules (0.000000000000000000397 Joules) or 2.477878026 eV . A single photon at about 35cm has 5.6 x 10-25 joules (5.599999999 joules) or 3.495243563e+19 eV. So you can see that we could have fewer photons and more energy. Oh and in case you are wondering... No, I didn't do the math myself.

Don't worry I didn't take offence. I rather enjoy intelligent debate it makes me either confirm or change what I think.

That's correct. One might also say that there is a differens in the amount of photons (radiation) and the energy content.
Let's pressume that you have a high energy content (eV) but low radiation, what this means is that the procentage that will interact whit the electron is farly low, meaning that you we will see a timeline where there is no effect before something happens, but when it does, it will probably ionize or elevate the electron several levels.
The next scenario is where you have a large radiation but low energy content in the photon - in that case, you will have a much higher propabilety to interact whit the electron but lower chance to elevate it or ionize it.
But overall it whould take the same time to do so...

So to calculate and choose the "right" wavelengths is not that easy any longer... and we also need to have a farly good knowledge on which wavelenghts that will interact whit the electron and so forth.
For the GP - well, one that are wide in it's spectrum (white) - one that are in the red spectrum and one that are in the UV spectrum should provide a good plattform for Multiphotionization, that is the correct term for the Gas Porcessor... dont forgett the Field Ionization (HV) either, you need your Rudberg molecules/atomes.
We could top it of whit some IR led's just in case.

When it comes to a UV source, i did finde a good site for uv led's, take a look, it might help you.

UV-Led's

[CPU3rother]

When it comes to intensity, i understand what you are saying - if we only look at UV spectrum of the GP, in that case, the luminosity is fairly low (what we can see) but it doesent mean that there are fewer photons.. i do not know what messurment is used to count "uv intensity" but it (i belive) is not in candela or luminosity... I suppose that we need to messure the electro magnetic radiation?
And when it comes to hydrogen in the GP, that was reffering to a WFC + GP - not the injector, for the injector part there is only ionized air.

I did not mean to be condescending in my responce, i just had a bad day.

That's correct I was referring to radiant intensity. Not all photons are created equal. They can be emitted with various energy, at least as far as we can measure. A single photon at about 500nm has 3.97x10E-19 Joules (0.000000000000000000397 Joules) or 2.477878026 eV . A single photon at about 35cm has 5.6 x 10-25 joules (5.599999999 joules) or 3.495243563e+19 eV. So you can see that we could have fewer photons and more energy. Oh and in case you are wondering... No, I didn't do the math myself.

Don't worry I didn't take offence. I rather enjoy intelligent debate it makes me either confirm or change what I think.

[Oneminde]

Yes, really Intensity. Just not necessarily the kind of intensity you are referring to. I chose not to use the words candela or luminous intensity because these words confine and make reference to the visible spectra. In other words the Luminous intensity doesn't necessarily give you more photons just more in the most visible spectra. "luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source" Or to finish the quote "luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source in a particular direction per unit solid angle, based on the luminosity function, a standardized model of the sensitivity of the human eye" = visible light. Despite this, the "Intensity" I spoke of can be called by many names. Don't get me wrong, I think you are correct in your understanding about this its just the term I am disagreeing with.

Putting hydrogen in the GP is not ruled out of every design, but is also not part of the injector system. Aside from the safety concerns that (can be overcome) I don't see why you couldn't do it so long as you can stop premature ignition. Stan had some solutions to minimize this, but it appears he preferred to do his mixing as close to the desired point of ignition as possible.

When it comes to intensity, i understand what you are saying - if we only look at UV spectrum of the GP, in that case, the luminosity is fairly low (what we can see) but it doesent mean that there are fewer photons.. i do not know what messurment is used to count "uv intensity" but it (i belive) is not in candela or luminosity... I suppose that we need to messure the electro magnetic radiation?
And when it comes to hydrogen in the GP, that was reffering to a WFC + GP - not the injector, for the injector part there is only ionized air.

I did not mean to be condescending in my responce, i just had a bad day.

[CPU3rother]

Now put that in the hands of someone like DHL and UPS, now they have a fleet that nolonger needs fuel and the pocket 50% of that and lower the prices 50% to crush their compeditor, what will have to take place? Everyone will have no choice but to switch over or go out of buisness. Something as simple as a pizza deliver company doing this will wipe up all of his compeditors and make a profit at the same time.


h2opower.

Nice examples. History has proven this with many new technologies.

[CPU3rother]

Now, c mon, realy - intensity?
luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source = How many photons is emitted. The more luminous intensity there is (or candela) the more photons is emitted. It is basic knowledge..

In the GP we want as many photons as possible per wavelenght, so, the more luminous intensity, gives us more photons which gives us a larger % in hitrate - meaning that one wavelenght will have a higher procentage to increase the energy yeild per electron and it also mean that we have a higher propabilety for said photon to accept another photon whit lesser energy, thus elongating the electron or simply ionize it. That is multiphotoionization.

Are you happy now CPU3rother. Hope this answers your remark for light intesity.

And for the hydrogen in the GP: HHO + Gas Processor = The Hydrogen Fracturing Process or porcessed water + GP.
Now i understand your remark or maby not - but why would'nt we use hydrogen in the GP and why would'nt we ionize it?

Is it becouse there is a change that gama rays will be given of? is it becouse a free electron might recombine whit said nuclei and create a "spark" of energy and BOOM? Why is it so dangerous?

Unless a proper answer is given or i find said answer myself, HHO in the GP!
This is open for debate... shoot!

Yes, really Intensity. Just not necessarily the kind of intensity you are referring to. I chose not to use the words candela or luminous intensity because these words confine and make reference to the visible spectra. In other words the Luminous intensity doesn't necessarily give you more photons just more in the most visible spectra. "luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source" Or to finish the quote "luminous intensity is a measure of the wavelength-weighted power emitted by a light source in a particular direction per unit solid angle, based on the luminosity function, a standardized model of the sensitivity of the human eye" = visible light. Despite this, the "Intensity" I spoke of can be called by many names. Don't get me wrong, I think you are correct in your understanding about this its just the term I am disagreeing with.

Putting hydrogen in the GP is not ruled out of every design, but is also not part of the injector system. Aside from the safety concerns that (can be overcome) I don't see why you couldn't do it so long as you can stop premature ignition. Stan had some solutions to minimize this, but it appears he preferred to do his mixing as close to the desired point of ignition as possible.

[Dave45]

I for one would like to be able to swim in the water ways around the water ways again. To be able to eat the fish, and see to the bottom once again. Fish use to swim in a creek near my home and fogs where as big as kittens, everything is now dead and the creek is only home to leaches and other paracites. Even the crayfish are dead now. We have a lot of work to do to make things back right, this is only a small step in the right direction for our children desirve better than this.

I agree totaly I also live in an area where i grew up that has a creek that is not what it used to be, I dont let my children play in it anymore unless we have a good rain. That really hurts my heart to see the devastation that is taking place in our environment and to know that our children cant enjoy the simple pleasure's we had as children.
The electronics are beyond me but the injector is mechanical more my area I think I'll see what I can do in this area. Thanks my friend for all your doing.
Onward Fellow Crusaders
Dave

[h20power]

Agreed

I have to agree, but some kind of manufacturing process will have to be set up particularly in electronics area, most people cannot build the vic that will work me included. As far as installing a system or troubleshooting one yes but building a hv coil where matching inductance is vital is beyond the scope of the everyday laymen and that is going to slow the spread of this tech and it needs to spread like wildfire.
So like it or not we have to be realistic someone is going to have to package this system and sell it, I'll buy one today .
Open source it but sell it also, people are lazy they dont want to learn the tech just use it.

When the system is up and running more than likely a full set of plans for everyone to have that are so detailed all one has to do is take it to different shops to get it built for them will also have to be put out. But it will be for one type of car perhaps two no more. For I have a life I intend on living with this new found source of freedom and will more than likely move on to something else of interest to me. I will leave it to someone else to build the Meyer style injectors, for the patent on the fuel control systems seems to be still pending, two of them. I for one don't know how to get a hold of pending patents. One thing I do know is enough information has been put out on this thread to get anyone started on running a ICE or even a jet with a little more R&D for timing and things of that nature still to solve.

I know the LEDs still have some work needed but in Meyer's design they are really only there to keep the energy levels from falling back down. Advancements in the LED technology has made it where we can now push the energy levels up with the LEDs too. So right off the bat we have surpassed Stanley Meyer without even building it. I took advantage of this and got some LEDs I think will do just that.

Your design your rules remember, so pick any way you want to make the technology work for you and what you do with in it trully up to you. Any plan of action you have in mind to bring the technology out is worth a try. But just to take the saving this technology brings and pass on what you have learned to others is what I want to do. This kind of freedom will do wonders for humanity, and we can start focusing on cleaning up the mess we have made of the planet. Learning better ways to live with the planet's delicate eco systems, and building our homes and full way of life around ideas of the like. I for one would like to be able to swim in the water ways around the water ways again. To be able to eat the fish, and see to the bottom once again. Fish use to swim in a creek near my home and fogs where as big as kittens, everything is now dead and the creek is only home to leaches and other paracites. Even the crayfish are dead now. We have a lot of work to do to make things back right, this is only a small step in the right direction for our children desirve better than this.


h2opower.

[Dave45]

I have to agree, but some kind of manufacturing process will have to be set up particularly in electronics area, most people cannot build the vic that will work me included. As far as installing a system or troubleshooting one yes but building a hv coil where matching inductance is vital is beyond the scope of the everyday laymen and that is going to slow the spread of this tech and it needs to spread like wildfire.
So like it or not we have to be realistic someone is going to have to package this system and sell it, I'll buy one today .
Open source it but sell it also, people are lazy they dont want to learn the tech just use it.

[Oneminde]

Sure, that is one way of putting it on the map of evolution h2opower, and good points and yes, one possible future.

Terror is spreading fear in peoples mind... hmm, kinda remindes me of what the US Government did after 9/11 - ironic is'nt it?

[h20power]

Things you all should know

How to control the masses is something everyone should learn about, for if you watch all of these videos, and you understand them a most propaganda will nolonger work on you.
The Century Of The Self - Part 1 of 4 - By Adam Curtis
The Century of the self 2 of 4
The Century of the Self 3 of 4
The Century of the self 4 of 4

For once you understand this system you can too also use it. This system of greed they have set up is just about to bit them in the ass. Let me put it to you this way, if your naybor is not paying for electricity, and nolonger paying for gasoline, how long would it be before you copy what they are doing?

Now put that in the hands of someone like DHL and UPS, now they have a fleet that nolonger needs fuel and the pocket 50% of that and lower the prices 50% to crush their compeditor, what will have to take place? Everyone will have no choice but to switch over or go out of buisness. Something as simple as a pizza deliver company doing this will wipe up all of his compeditors and make a profit at the same time.

The system of control they have worked so hard to set up over the last 70 years or so will all come crashing down as everyone world wide will find a way to better their on personal lives. Countries around the world will be able to pay off there IMF loans within a few short years. I can't predict the future, but I can tell you this, those in power right now, do not think the way we do. What to you think is going to happen to all the long range plans in the middle east, and to those that have put/stole the money for these plans? They just killed over 1 million people, they are right now planning to break the worlds monitary system and kill off, say 2.3 billion as they do. It is there, problem, reaction, solution, that they are planning on using no us all. They create the problem, watch our reaction to it, and then offer a soultion using the methods of Edward Bernays. There propaganda is so strong it still even works on me but just not for long pierods of time.

I know how to use these methods so the stage is set to get this technology to be felt as if you are going to die without it. Too perhaps even set up mass histairya in the minds of the masses. I know full well how to do this, and if anyone fully understands the videos just posted will also know how. But I do know if you watch all the videos the comershals will nolonger work on you with full effectiveness as they did before you watch them.

These videos show your system of government and teach you the system of control that has been placed on you:
YouTube - Real America 1 0f 4
YouTube - Real America 2 0f 4
YouTube - Real America 3 0f 4
YouTube - Real America 4 0f 4

Learning these you can see just what this is all about. Pitting one against the other is there way of life for they are both sides of every war since WWI. Now without the cold war they had to create a new enemy, "The Evil Terrorist." The system of control they use is complexe but America can not exist in the final version of their control of the globe, which is why the North American Union was set into motion. You are all wittnessing these actions being carried out. Control of the flow of information is a must which is why they are working towards ending the internet as we know it by 1212 or sooner. But for right now it is the only way to get the word out to the masses, for not many news groups today will cover this once it gets started.

I know this all seems way off topic but really it is not, for again I remind you in order to break this system of control is going to be hard work. I may not see the promiseland but I will die knowing I did my part in all of this. For in the end that is all we can do, is do our part in seeing this live saving technology makes it out to as many as possible and that is the knowlege of how it all works not some company that might get nuked for selling this. The knowlege has to get out, and I belive I have done this already. But I can't do this alone and need the help of my fellow men & women around the globe.

Right now all eyes are on me to see if I can get my car running on water, but the important thing is I have shown the science behind all of this, so if I get stopped someone else who has read this thread can also do it. That is how grass roots activisim works it's way around the world, one person sharing and caring to someone else.

I hope this explains my postion on most of this,

h2opower.

[Oneminde]

H20 you hit the nail on the head. I personally believe that information horders like orion project that seemingly desires to be a profitable company in the future for their efforts in free energy technology are in for a rude awakening. They are sitting in a position to free source all of their discoveries in SM technology to the world, but they will not! There is NO ONE that will stand in the way of the driving forces of the energy dictators. Free engergy will NEVER see the light of day from any company, corporation, or non for profit group. The ONLY way is to put the information into as many tinkerers' (such as ourselves) hands to learn and teach others. A grass-root energy movement from the ground up is the only way to win. Any motivation of greed at all will guarantee failure.

[natone_m]

The skeptics

The things H2O is talking about I beleive are true as well. There comes a point when even the most irrational thinkers cannot deny the overwhelming facts on matters smacking us in the face on subjects like 9-11, the afgan/iraq/iran war, the georgian skermish, CFR, IMF, engineered colapse of the $$$, ect. All one has to do is read. I guess i'm one of those tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist, however there comes a point when one can't even call them theories anymore. I think the majority of the public would refer to me as the skeptic. I see it the other way around. Have any of you mentioned water fuel tech to anyone you know and get the one eyebrow raised, "you're crazy" look? I think our society is full of misguided skeptics that need awakening. It won't come form CNN, FOX, NBC, CBS, or ABC. It will come from people like us and our efforts proving that viable options for our future and childrens' future are being kept away from us.

[natone_m]

I agree!!

H20 you hit the nail on the head. I personally believe that information horders like orion project that seemingly desires to be a profitable company in the future for their efforts in free energy technology are in for a rude awakening. They are sitting in a position to free source all of their discoveries in SM technology to the world, but they will not! There is NO ONE that will stand in the way of the driving forces of the energy dictators. Free engergy will NEVER see the light of day from any company, corporation, or non for profit group. The ONLY way is to put the information into as many tinkerers' (such as ourselves) hands to learn and teach others. A grass-root energy movement from the ground up is the only way to win. Any motivation of greed at all will guarantee failure.