Water Sparkplug

[Jules Tresor]

Revizal doing a great job !

Hi Revizal,

I find you are a very long running guy ! Congratulations, you progress with determination, step by step !

- You said the genset ran 5 minutes on diesel
and 7 minutes on diesel + plasma spark; so it's already almost 50% increase !!!

- what I know about GEET, and especialy about 100% water GEET, is that 100% water is very hard to get so far.

- most important is to bring reactor chamber of GEET to highest temperature possible. You should insulate the exhaust pipe with something.

- also the length of the rod inside GEET is VERY important:
see info from VortexHeatExchanger : Vortexing Plasma Fuel Reformer Design

water as fuel - 32mm vertical rod or 64mm horizontal rod
petrol - 92mm vertical rod or 184mm horizontal rod
diesel fuel - 115mm vertical rod or 229mm horizontal rod
crude oil - 156mm vertical rod or 305mm horizontal rod

you can find resumed info here: http://waterfuel.100free.com/geet_plasma.html


but running 100% water is very hard, BUT like you use plasma spark it could be more possible )
I hope and pray for your success !
imagine fishing boats running on water !!

fuel is the main daily expense for the fishing boats, and I know places on this planet where people can't afford for fuel anymore, so they can't bring fish anymore, but still have to pay the bank for the loan on the boat !!

I know places where it's becoming DRAMATIC, so please guys KEEP ON TO THE VICTORY, we need water as fuel !

MDG

[Ansis Freimanis]

Hi!

Today I make a Sinus generator on LF355N. And now I can say- all is working correct! No massive heat of transistor and transformer is warm too. Current is about 3 Amps and all is working- just nice!!! I can say that is "Ultra frequencu amplifiere"! And I think it is correct name of schematic.

[passion1]

Revizal
Excellent videos!!
NaOH / KOH is caustic and will attack parts of the engine, especially if its alluminium.

Passion

[revizal]

Hi Revizal,

Have you tried distilled water?
It would be interesting because of it's high voltage dielectric breakdown (low electrical conductivity) and also because it is cleaner for the engine.

Thanks for sharing and please keep up.


Gibs

I thought the water we need must have ion in it. That's why we could fire salt water or other catalyst such NaOH and KOH due to availability of ion in the solution. I thought what S1R did also relate to this idea or brute methode to ignite water in ICE.

Rev.

[Gibs]

Useful experiments

What will happen if I introduce NaOH solution or salt water into the engine ?

Hi Revizal,

The experiments you are conducting are very useful for our knowledge.

Have you tried distilled water?
It would be interesting because of it's high voltage dielectric breakdown (low electrical conductivity) and also because it is cleaner for the engine.

Thanks for sharing and please keep up.


Gibs

[ashtweth]

Guys the organization got new information on the GEET which may be of use, open source engineers who are part of the org can legally receive them
Ill be sending to Luc, Rev, Aaron and Greg to assist this direction.

Rev, drop me an email so i can send them to you for technical support
[email protected]
Ow @ Aaron, Luc and greg please do so too

[revizal]

What will happen if I introduce NaOH solution or salt water into the engine ?

[revizal]

Introduce water to the plasma ignition

All,

As request from any comment and need to verifying it..
I just introduce water into the GEET + Plasma Booster engine. The setup just like before (No Changed). I used water in the plastic fuel tank and 100% gasoline supplied from a bubbler thru the air mix valve. With GEET + plasma booster I have no significant change (I have only RPM increasement). It's only worked in high RPM. When I open the valve to about 50% open (high water rate), the RPM goes down. It may gives information that my GEET+ plasma are not enough to ignite water to get engine runs on water only.

Any suggestion ?

NB:
As you know, our final purpose is to reach engine running on water only.

[insane4evr]

@ Greg,

Very nice.
Will appreciate data on transformer. TIA.
And schematic if you feel very generous.

[gmeast]

oscillator board

Hi all,

... finished the oscillator, mounted the xformer, mounted the fan, mounted the board on the VW engine compartment back plane.

Here's a pic of the board and a pic of the waveform. It is about 300VAC P-P @ 70 hz. and 247 VDC at the storage Cap.

The oscillator-part is from the transformer and to the right. The voltage multiplier is the two diodes and two caps at the lower left and then there's the fan (1-1/2 square).

It sags a little more than I like at high speed (2400 RPM, 4 cycles per rev = 160 cps). It droops to about 165 VDC at that speed but that's plenty to bring the plasma event.



Peace,

Greg

[gmeast]

voltage

Great video Greg!

I wait, excitedly, for you to see it work well in your bug. You have a real knack for solving problems, glad you are a part of all this for sure. I am sure it will perform as well as everything else you have done here, great work!

I will continue testing the Suburban with the inverter, just to see if it will be fine with the current setup. I'll post some results later today, hopefully. At least by tomorrow. Later................................Mike

Hi Mike,

As you can see, I have upped the voltage and you'r right ... HV is the only way ... low power, low heat.

Greg

[jstadwater]

Great video Greg!

I wait, excitedly, for you to see it work well in your bug. You have a real knack for solving problems, glad you are a part of all this for sure. I am sure it will perform as well as everything else you have done here, great work!

I will continue testing the Suburban with the inverter, just to see if it will be fine with the current setup. I'll post some results later today, hopefully. At least by tomorrow. Later................................Mike

[gmeast]

VIDEO - oscillator / doubler

Hi all,

Trouble with the video editor so no titles and I didn't feel like talking.

In the video you see the regular spark then I turn on the oscillator / doubler assembly, squirt it with water, run it with the drill motor, etc. Good stable plasma to max drill motor speed ... about 2400 RPM.

The doubler (multiplier) is on the left of the transformer. The doubler is the exact one Aaron posted to the group long ago. The xformer is a 115VAC x 12.6 VAC run in reverse. No need for an isolation transformer because the 115 x 12.6 is one. It gets warm but is cooled easly by one of the (many) small chasis fans I have left over from fried inverters. It gets warm for two reasons: 1) it's not a real step up transformer, 2) transformers don't like square waves ... they like sine waves.

The short, fat cap is a 1000uF x 100VDC for the oscillator input supply stabilizer (goes across the 12VDC input to the oscillator - may not be needed).

Behind that is a small 33uF x 450VDC storage cap. On the upper right is an oil-filled HV cap at 3uF. The current limiter resistor is 120 Ohms.

I will be getting a board-mount xformer today. It is only a 0.3A transformer. This arrangement draws very low power ... it surprised me!

This way I can make a final determination if the inverter failures have been 'power-side' based or 'processor-side' based. A failure on the power side is a $2.00 Transistor replacement and on with troubleshooting, etc.

Video is at:

YouTube - transistor oscillator

Peace,

Greg

P.S. My original Gotoluc pulsed-coil plasma CDI circuit (with the charge and discharge power Mosfets) is still intact and a reminder that there was NEVER a problem with that configuration. Just thought I'd mention that.

[jstadwater]

It wasn't that, I was making contact with chassis ground when that happened. It's not touching chassis ground now and it's fine with the engine and the circuit running together. Someone mentioned we also need to have a bi-directional TVS from each leg to ground. I do not presently have that included in my wiring, can anyone verify that as a requirement? So far, it seems fine without it, only short tests thus far though.

Mike

[Chris31]

In my experiment, my engine was died if I add diesel into fuel tank on original standard ignition. It was runs on just plasma booster (no GEET) but not smooth as my previous video. It's run very bad in low RPM. I guest it's not what we want. The last (as my last video), the engine runs very smooth with diesel on Plasma booster+GEET. I'm sure this methode is what we need. It makes us sure to clear convert gasoline engine to diesel.

Revizal.

Thanks for the reply, yes GEET is the way to go if we want to run different type of fuel.

I just though that diesel might work with just plasma if the engine is already at its operating temp, perhaps the ignition timing might also need adjusting.