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  • gotoluc
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    Originally posted by revizal View Post
    Hi All,

    YouTube - Plasma Ignition (Vexus) on SUV

    Today I completed the setup of Vexus Plasma Booster on my SUV. Previously I have a problem on original Greg's setup. Greg connected the diodes to plug wire (distributor side), but with this setup I got no plasma effect on spark plug. Finally I connected the diodes to plug wire (plug head side) and I got the effect. I think we have to consider the wire resistant that restrict plasma discharging capasitor (current/voltage) to the spark.

    I have increasing from 500 RPM (original spark) to 650 RPM (plasma bosster) in idling mode. I used only 47 uF 400 volt capasitor with still 100 watt bulb to restrict Amperege to the circuit.

    Thank you,

    Revizal.
    Great Job Revizal ,

    please note that Greg is able to use his ignition wire to send the plasma because he changed them to non resistive stranded copper Ignition wires.

    It is nice to see the RPM boost thanks for sharing that.

    I have a request for you. Can you start experimenting on adding a small amount of Diesel to your gasoline since it has more energy content and could help to reduce fuel consumption and cost to you since Diesel is more available in your Country.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Luc

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  • ashtweth
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    Hi revizal

    Thanks for the clarification Bro, One paranoid request
    can you take your distributor cap off, and check for wear for us please man
    Thx

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  • revizal
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    My setup

    Originally posted by revizal View Post
    Hi All,

    YouTube - Plasma Ignition (Vexus) on SUV

    Today I completed the setup of Vexus Plasma Booster on my SUV. Previously I have a problem on original Greg's setup. Greg connected the diodes to plug wire (distributor side), but with this setup I got no plasma effect on spark plug. Finally I connected the diodes to plug wire (plug head side) and I got the effect. I think we have to consider the wire resistant that restrict plasma discharging capasitor (current/voltage) to the spark.

    I have increasing from 500 RPM (original spark) to 650 RPM (plasma bosster) in idling mode. I used only 47 uF 400 volt capasitor with still 100 watt bulb to restrict Amperege to the circuit.

    Thank you,

    Revizal.
    Based on request, here is my setup on the SUV and some pictures.
    Hopely this will help anybody who want to replicate it.

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  • ashtweth
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    Thanks REV!!, you have given us confidence to try it on our Toyota cab with the hydroxy booster
    tstorey, they have other wheel drives in other countries.

    Ash

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  • revizal
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    Regulation of Right steering in Indonesia

    Originally posted by tstorey View Post
    I don't want to ruin your day or anything, but the steering wheel on your truck is on the wrong side. Be careful the cops may pull you over.


    Tom
    In my country Indonesia, there is regulation of Departement of Transportation to use right steering in a vehicle and always use the left side of the road on driving instead of in the Europe and USA or other country.

    If you visit my country you will find all the vehicle use the right steering like my SUV.

    Thank you for your attention.

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  • tstorey
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    Revizal thanks for video

    I don't want to ruin your day or anything, but the steering wheel on your truck is on the wrong side. Be careful the cops may pull you over.


    Tom

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  • revizal
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    Vexus on SUV

    Hi All,

    YouTube - Plasma Ignition (Vexus) on SUV

    Today I completed the setup of Vexus Plasma Booster on my SUV. Previously I have a problem on original Greg's setup. Greg connected the diodes to plug wire (distributor side), but with this setup I got no plasma effect on spark plug. Finally I connected the diodes to plug wire (plug head side) and I got the effect. I think we have to consider the wire resistant that restrict plasma discharging capasitor (current/voltage) to the spark.

    I have increasing from 500 RPM (original spark) to 650 RPM (plasma bosster) in idling mode. I used only 47 uF 400 volt capasitor with still 100 watt bulb to restrict Amperege to the circuit.

    Thank you,

    Revizal.

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  • gotoluc
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    Originally posted by Aaron View Post
    Hi Gotoluc,

    I took the idea of this choke in this position from Meyer's circuit. My original reasoning that led me to try this was if the plasma is imploding and recombining, I could prevent the recombination if there are no or fewer electrons that are available for recombination...offsetting the voltage/current ratio...so with the choke limiting current, I could get the effect and get a real explosion.

    Anyway, that was my original thoughts. I was very surprised when I did it and it was literally silent.
    Thanks Aaron for explaining the reasoning of your test. I did some test today using my basic circuit and a heavy gauge inductor as choke which was just a MOT primary but no core (Air Core) and replicated the effect. It is very interesting to see the same reaction when water is sprayed but not much sound I also added a 1N4007 to see if I can collect some kick back energy from it and I was able to collect 43vdc in a 220uf cap with one spark pulse. The discharge cap was identical size and seems to give best results when both caps are the same uf value.

    One interesting thing I noticed with the collection diode (directing positive to cap) is I tried it on each side of the choke and noticed that If it is on the Ground side of the choke (if the cap is empty) the spark sound comes back but gets less at each additional spark pulse as the cap fills up. Connected to the other side it was always the mostly silent spark but the cap did not fill much on additional spark pulses.

    Interesting stuff

    Luc

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  • ashtweth
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    Guys, finally got to do some testing, here is the Smacks attached to the Brigg's genset running in the first test.

    ImageShack - Hosting :: smackplasmasparkyf9.png

    Here is the spark that's has us all captivated getting ready for testing, Video and test results coming.
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    Almost got the Smack and spark working, so some one can still beat us Be ALLOT more fun is you guys were there

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  • Aaron
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    reasoning for the choke

    Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
    Hi tstorey,

    in case you mist it I posted Aaron's video at OU and below is a reply from user name: Sparks

    There is so much mass in the choke coil that the voltage says screw it I'm gonna flow along the surface like wave energy flows along the surface of the ocean. The voltage still gets to the sparkgap but it comes in the form of a wave instead of slow flow. In electrical terms the transient current is suppressed by the choke. Since the discharge technique employed results in mostly transient current we get voltage to the load not requiring current flow through the conductor. Electromagnetic waves travel at the speed of light whereas electrical currents flow millimeters per second. I like speed.
    Meyer used chokes on both sides of his hho gas generator. This was to make sure that the wave fronts appear across the spark gap/capacitor/fuelcell/etc. to maximize charge seperation.
    Hi Gotoluc,

    I took the idea of this choke in this position from Meyer's circuit. My original reasoning that led me to try this was if the plasma is imploding and recombining, I could prevent the recombination if there are no or fewer electrons that are available for recombination...offsetting the voltage/current ratio...so with the choke limiting current, I could get the effect and get a real explosion.

    Anyway, that was my original thoughts. I was very surprised when I did it and it was literally silent.

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  • gotoluc
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    Hi jstadwater,

    LapperL is right! those are not your secondary leads. Above those leads is a single connector, that is one side of the secondary and the other side is the metal frame of the transformer. Use the frame for negative and one microwave diode on the connector >l to capacitor to get positive and you will charge a capacitor. This " >l " is the diode direction. Keep a dc voltage meter on the cap to make sure not to go over voltage or else BANG.

    Play safe

    Luc
    Last edited by gotoluc; 10-17-2008, 11:27 PM.

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  • lapperl
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    Originally posted by jstadwater View Post
    Hey Guys,

    Here's a pic of the back side of my MOT, how should I hook up the HV diode and cap to test if there's energy here?
    Two orange wires and a spade terminal, sorry about the resolution, didn't realize that camera took such bad pics.


    Mike
    Mike,
    The orange wires are just sense wires that are wrapped around the primary coil, if you look closely, you will see the other secondary wire tied to the ground of the coil core. I'm not exactly sure how to test with the cap a diodes, but I do know what the wires do.

    Hope it helps,

    LapperL

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  • gotoluc
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    @Greg and anyone interested,

    I've been thinking about the isolation transformer cost, availability and all this. It seems to be the only down side at this time for replicators.

    I have an idea ... MOT's are easily available and can be next to free. When you think of it ... it is an isolation transformer!... just at a much higher voltage on the secondary side. I propose we move your VexUs circuit to a new level... HV that is. Use a MOT as isolation transformer and feed the HV directly to the circuit. Obviously you would have to drop you Capacitance value by much and make your FWBR with HV diodes but I think that would be the only thing you may need to change. Also many have been noticing the benefit of Higher Voltages.

    So what do you think of this idea? Are you willing to test it? if so I would suggest using a Variac to start at a low voltage and slowly raise it if it works. Maybe the .7uf to 1uf microwave oven capacitors could end up being the correct size for the circuit?

    Just an idea. Let me know what you think of this.

    Luc

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  • jstadwater
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    OK,

    I cannot run at that rpm with the MOT in-line with the bulb. That's what the inverter didn't like. I just ran it with only the bulb hooked up for 5 minutes at 4,200 rpm and the inverter did not seem to have a problem. It did have a barely audible whistle, tone, whirring sound, something noise, though it still functioned fine. Would it be a good idea to go ahead and drop the 120uF caps in the tripler circuit to a lower value? Would that in any way ease the load on the inverter? I noticed a slight sizzle-clunk sound when I flip the inverter on and it has to charge the caps. Thanks in advance for any input in this matter.................................Mike

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  • Jetijs
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    Thanks Kinetix,
    your post helped a lot

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