Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[BrentA929]

self trigger in reverse breakdown

Ron,

Question...

What is the reverse breakdown for the IRFP260 FET?


Thanks, Brent

[Ron Chase]

Cap Dump

Ron,

Two things...

1) The FET works just like you have shown. My wheel dumps at about 1.5 Amps. You are right, it is hard to tell what voltage it dumps at. I wonder if I truly understand this type of dump. My digital meter shows about 40-41V. I know the digital meter can't really see it.

2) I was wrong about my K12A. I tried it again and found that it does just like the FET and dumps at 1.5 Amps. I was so paranoid when I first did it, I had the analog meter hooked up backwards and I was to focused on the voltage on the cap. Glad to know it works. It actually works in reverse of what JB showed in the video. I wonder why? I have it hooked up like you show in your schematic in post 1830.


Guess it's time to run some tests!


Thanks, Brent

Ron,

Question...

What is the reverse breakdown for the IRFP260 FET?


Thanks, Brent


Yay Brent. Start charging those batteries and begin thinking about building the second half of the wheel, the re-gauging motor.

The drain to source breakdown voltage for the IRFP260 is 200V but I wouldn't worry about that as it doesn't appear to have any relevance to the kind of cap dump function we are observing. We see dynamic charging at impossibly low current levels with all the different rated FET's we've tried so far so it has to be the RE flowing through the FET's that is doing the job regardless of what the breakdown voltage, etc. is of any particular FET. The RE doesn't care about voltage it justs wants to get to the negative pole of the battery. The higher negative potential of the cap see's the lower negative potential of the battery as positive and wants to get there anyway it can.

As far as how a FET is connected to the Cap - and the Batt - you just have to go with what works. The FET's inside SSR's often have other components associated with them such as the snubber diodes I mentioned earlier as well as how the FET was constructed all of which can affect whether it works with one connection scheme or another. The data sheet's often don't show this or even reveal the internal connections of the FET so trying to figure it all out can be maddening.

I'm just happy we've gotten to the point where we can begin building regauging motor's. Our big wheels are the perfect platform for experimenting with them.

Good Job!

Ron

[Les_K]

Axle Generator far fetched thoughts and on......

Ron,

Question...

What is the reverse breakdown for the IRFP260 FET?


Thanks, Brent


Yay Brent. Start charging those batteries and begin thinking about building the second half of the wheel, the re-gauging motor.

The drain to source breakdown voltage for the IRFP260 is 200V but I wouldn't worry about that as it doesn't appear to have any relevance to the kind of cap dump function we are observing. We see dynamic charging at impossibly low current levels with all the different rated FET's we've tried so far so it has to be the RE flowing through the FET's that is doing the job regardless of what the breakdown voltage, etc. is of any particular FET. The RE doesn't care about voltage it justs wants to get to the negative pole of the battery. The higher negative potential of the cap see's the lower negative potential of the battery as positive and wants to get there anyway it can.

As far as how a FET is connected to the Cap - and the Batt - you just have to go with what works. The FET's inside SSR's often have other components associated with them such as the snubber diodes I mentioned earlier as well as how the FET was constructed all of which can affect whether it works with one connection scheme or another. The data sheet's often don't show this or even reveal the internal connections of the FET so trying to figure it all out can be maddening.

I'm just happy we've gotten to the point where we can begin building regauging motor's. Our big wheels are the perfect platform for experimenting with them.

Good Job!

Ron

Just a thought, I wonder if it might be the breakdown of the internal diode....

Ok, Here are some ideas I have been working with as far as the generators.
I had posted some of what I felt were important posts about the mag-Amp. And there is a lot there, I think the key is going to be changing the impedance at the right time as described in those posts. I don't think we need the motor function as much as we need a low RPM generator/alternator/G-field. I had thought about the axial flux alternator. There is a lot of good information on construction out there. But then I got to looking at coil shorting as Patrick knows. But I am still not sure.

I then began to take a simple approach. What can be done to increase the energy returned from a coil from it's initial input pulse without altering the input. we know that without magnets we can touch a coil to a battery and when removed get a large spike out.
Is there anything we can do to the coil that might increase the output significantly given the same input. This is where I thought about the magAmp effect and adding one wire with a small dc current oppisite to the other strands to alter the impedance. I thought about the fact that when a coil is energized in opposition to a the magnet it is in effect creating a super pole just as though you were pushing two magnets together. I was puzzling over that and tried to open a discussion elsewhere, Then I ran into this interesting video.
How to Build A TPU Pt. 3 - YouTube

I wonder if we made an SSG type generator based on this, and included the MagAmp.
It could run at any speed as it is just a matter of getting the impedance done correctly. Coil shorting, untwisted litz(as he calls it) and mag-amp. I don't know just goofy thinking here.....


Les

[Ron Chase]

Just a thought, I wonder if it might be the breakdown of the internal diode....

Ok, Here are some ideas I have been working with as far as the generators.
I had posted some of what I felt were important posts about the mag-Amp. And there is a lot there, I think the key is going to be changing the impedance at the right time as described in those posts. I don't think we need the motor function as much as we need a low RPM generator/alternator/G-field. I had thought about the axial flux alternator. There is a lot of good information on construction out there. But then I got to looking at coil shorting as Patrick knows. But I am still not sure.

I then began to take a simple approach. What can be done to increase the energy returned from a coil from it's initial input pulse without altering the input. we know that without magnets we can touch a coil to a battery and when removed get a large spike out.
Is there anything we can do to the coil that might increase the output significantly given the same input. This is where I thought about the magAmp effect and adding one wire with a small dc current oppisite to the other strands to alter the impedance. I thought about the fact that when a coil is energized in opposition to a the magnet it is in effect creating a super pole just as though you were pushing two magnets together. I was puzzling over that and tried to open a discussion elsewhere, Then I ran into this interesting video.
How to Build A TPU Pt. 3 - YouTube

I wonder if we made an SSG type generator based on this, and included the MagAmp.
It could run at any speed as it is just a matter of getting the impedance done correctly. Coil shorting, untwisted litz(as he calls it) and mag-amp. I don't know just goofy thinking here.....


Les

Fascinating Les, I wish I didn't have to eat and sleep just explore all the possibilities. So many tests to perform. I wasn't aware of the TPU video's, thanks.

I'm thinking along the same lines about building a monopole generator and making super coils that have a true mag amp function. It could work. I'm also thinking that as I build up a regaging motor some of these ideas could be tested with that form factor say one coil at a time.

Another test others have done and I'd like try is to add an additional coil (big)in parallel with the slave and master coils with no motor function. Should see an increase in charge energy there.

Thanks, Ron

[Les_K]

Fascinating Les, I wish I didn't have to eat and sleep just explore all the possibilities. So many tests to perform. I wasn't aware of the TPU video's, thanks.

I'm thinking along the same lines about building a monopole generator and making super coils that have a true mag amp function. It could work. I'm also thinking that as I build up a regaging motor some of these ideas could be tested with that form factor say one coil at a time.

Another test others have done and I'd like try is to add an additional coil (big)in parallel with the slave and master coils with no motor function. Should see an increase in charge energy there.

Thanks, Ron

Yeah, you got that right, but eating and drinking is not the problem....Just wish I were independently wealthy so I could play all day.....


Ok, I'll throw one more at ya...
NEOGEN / FreeEnergyLT / FreeEnergyLT
Just to the right of the bird with the peace symbol it shows the rotational effects of having a difference of one coil to magnets. It shows the eclipse going faster around the than the rotation.

http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/neogen/NeoGen_44.gif

Yes, this is in effect what bedini said at the conference concerning the Watson machine. But the littel graphic is great! this looks like a good way to handle the slower RPM's we are dealing with.

further down on the same page is something interesting about bifiler windings.

http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/neogen/NeoGen_18.jpg

http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/neogen/NeoGen_19.jpg

Also in the video Tech review, It shows the cores of the coils all attached to a back plate.

Ok, you may not have noticed but I have been thinking about this a while...
but there are some of my ideas. And that's where I am stuck....

Les

[Watnou72]

Funny Funny!

I found this on the net. Is it true
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[erfinder]

Whats charging the battery

Hello John,

It is my opinion that pulsed generator action combined with a second transient phenomena (completely independent from the documented transient) is charging the primary battery.

Quote
"if respective non-linear actions are initiated that sharply affect and increase the reaction cross section of the circuit".
End quote

These non-linear actions are not limited to electronic switching alone, care must be taken that the coils are properly configured to allow for the evolution of said transient (implying magnetic switching is taking place in addition to and independent from the electronic switching...., proper coil configuration opens the door to generator energy storage, a mechanism which is the electro-magnetic equivalent of a flywheel. Generator must pulse, this is not to be understood as being an electronic pulse, it is more like what is experienced in the Kromrey and G-field when the magnetic circuit is made an broken, a magnetic pulse.... If you understand flywheels, you know whats necessary to make the generator pulse.

I can only report on that which I have personally experienced. Done.

Watch the videos John has provided, specifically the video on the ferris wheel. Also read and reread US patent 7,109,671.

To date, I have no idea if what I see on my bench has anything to do with the original information provided by John Bedini, John puts everything in the open, but is still not at liberty to share certain things (my opinion). What I can say is when one really reviews all the information that has been provided, and work with it, you will find things that will shock and amaze you. Sometimes you must leave the paved path, leave it to be drawn back to it when your mind has matured enough to comprehend things which were for a time.....uncomprehendable to you....

Cheers John

Regards

[BrentA929]

Bedini Ferris Wheel (For Sale)

Hey Guys,

Does anyone have any interest in purchasing our 6' Bedini Ferris Wheel?

I am willing to sell it at cost.

For those of you that don't have any idea what we built, you can go to our YouTube channel and take a look at some of the videos during the early phases of the build or look back through the posts on the Energetic forum.

Let me know if you have any questions.


Thanks, Brent

[BroMikey]

comprehend things

Hello John,

It is my opinion that pulsed generator action combined with a second transient phenomena (completely independent from the documented transient) is charging the primary battery.

Quote
"if respective non-linear actions are initiated that sharply affect and increase the reaction cross section of the circuit".
End quote

These non-linear actions are not limited to electronic switching alone, care must be taken that the coils are properly configured to allow for the evolution of said transient (implying magnetic switching is taking place in addition to and independent from the electronic switching...., proper coil configuration opens the door to generator energy storage, a mechanism which is the electro-magnetic equivalent of a flywheel. Generator must pulse, this is not to be understood as being an electronic pulse, it is more like what is experienced in the Kromrey and G-field when the magnetic circuit is made an broken, a magnetic pulse.... If you understand flywheels, you know whats necessary to make the generator pulse.

I can only report on that which I have personally experienced. Done.

Watch the videos John has provided, specifically the video on the ferris wheel. Also read and reread US patent 7,109,671.

To date, I have no idea if what I see on my bench has anything to do with the original information provided by John Bedini, John puts everything in the open, but is still not at liberty to share certain things (my opinion). What I can say is when one really reviews all the information that has been provided, and work with it, you will find things that will shock and amaze you. Sometimes you must leave the paved path, leave it to be drawn back to it when your mind has matured enough to comprehend things which were for a time.....uncomprehendable to you....

Cheers John

Regards

Hey ERFINDER

Great look at pulsing circuits, I am going to be showing my big pulse gen soon. It employs 250vdc caps pulsing at 90vdc capable down to a few volts.

It should help me to explore other experiments and will need help figuring out what to try next. I am a one fingered typist and have tiny writing ability can't say all of the big words and impress everyone.

I still like to explore and invention success does not hinge on literary skills.

Either way I see alot of tiny little setups with the coil about 1/4 pound the size of needle and thread and think if people are serious they should put some time and effort into basic tools first.

You need not answer this old reply, just wanted you to know that I find this explanations interesting.

[BroMikey]

Tom's 80th Birthday

In Nov 2010 Energy conference PART 22 buy it and see John gives away the secrets to why none of the monopole SG wheels are like HIS(JOHNS)

Barium was mentioned but not needed, even tho John's was running on Barium, I think, still a very secret talk that I didn't comprehend fully.

What John did say was that the internet people drove him away and he stopped giving the answers. Probably a plant from the Gov disinfo jockeys.

Either way John also stated that was NOW giving away the secrets in honor of his friends 80th Birthday coming up. Talked about calling T. Beardon on the phone to let him know what he was about to do.

The 16 pole Ferris wheel has a special super pole arrangement that we are all familiar with at least some what. Also the magnets are on an angle plus 3 stages.

3 Stages of magnetic non linear something or another I forget now but John reminded us of the Howard J. magnet stuff how that John's big wheel has a ferrite ceramic magnet, a rubber magnet for the next piece of the sandwich and the third is a NEODYMIUM.

Non linear switch that drives Howards Train so as I always suspected the monopole is just as much a magnet motor as it is a magneto generator. The two together give more advantage, so John has improved his work over the years of course starting with the science fair little girl invention.

The rest of the story centers around how poles should not be perfectly spaced in all cases and shows you photos explaining everything.

If you are not a brain, forget it. Part 22 shows a 16 pole wheel up to the ceiling with a RED ribbon like boarder around the perimeter.

Also John says that a HIGHLY MODIFIED BEDINI/COLE switch is what does the best. John basically gave away everything in a weak moment.

You are Kool Guy John and we all love you for your way of making sure that everyone gets the answer all at the same time. John also said that Peter L. brought some ideas to John and they worked on them together that were great improvements in this technology. So john gave credit to Peter L.and Tom B.

It is beyond most people so your secret will always be safe. Not that you want it that way but that is the way it is.

This is why I always thought if the BIG MACHINE only had magnets for triggering it didn't make sense to make them so big if that is all they did. This is not all that they do. The 3 stage arrangement along side the proper switching both bring about an OU state.

And like John stated it was not going to run the world or something like that. In other words it would need to be perfected down the road to get practical amounts of power for a cost effective investment.

That is not the point though is it? John has driven his point for 30 plus years.

I can see it so clear. This is the only way that the answer can come.

Someone showed me a copy that was filmed from the back and part 22 in the series ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM is a must for the serious inventor.

This was Nov 2010 and you won't find any of that material on the web.

Michael Rowland
Central Kansas

Howard Johnson Magnets



Magnet Power | Self Sustained

Ren,
The Motor/Generator is also switched at five points of the magnets all coils being series arrangement, you can see the five dots. when they line up the magnets are popped with a trigger signal in the mean time everything is shorted out flux wise.
John

[BroMikey]

Energy From The Vacuum part22

Guys buy part 22 if you want to succeed with the SG wheel.

John said the Howards train used this configuation as in the patent.

Here is a video with a young man who knows his beans.

This makes John Bedini's Big Machine a self sustaining system and as bulky as it is can give some useful power. If you already have a large monoploe then you are going to need the part 22 to continue your investigation.

Howard Johnson Linear Motor Patent Replication version 02 - YouTube

Build a HOWARD JOHNSON Linear Magnetic Motor - PART 1 - YouTube

Build a HOWARD JOHNSON - PART 2 - YouTube

[BroMikey]

Advanced Monopole

Hi Dave

Dave I will rephrase but before I do --- thank Stephan Brown for sharing your heart I can identify with.

@DAVE in PART 22 in the series ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM John Bedini stated the things i said on another thread. (By the way I will be deleting this the next day).

I don't hate you Dave. Or Matt. Is that clear? I need to say this because I am a poor communicator in plain text.

Let me start again in my own way to the best of my ability and I hope you can be renewed.

John Bedini stated. Do you hear what I am saying? Does anyone hear me when I say?????? JOHN BEDINI STATED???????

Now is that clear enough? John stated what? Not that the people like you are bad and John hates you. That is not what I said. Or meant or would ever imply such a horrible thing.

I will start over and maybe just maybe you and thousands of others will benefit.

You stated Dave that you didn't think John Bedini failed us in the instructions of the BUILD HE TOLD US TO make, right?

Well that is right. The Build that John has us all building is the one where he states you have everything you need. Right? Right!!!!

Yes everything we need to build it the way he instructs it to be built but it is NOT and I REPEAT it is NOT!!!!! The same as the one HE(JOHN ) had running at the Nov 2010 conference.

Okay I am bad with text yes I will start over.

JOHN STATED!!!!!!! JOHN looked around the room and in his way, asked the people there if they knew that the VERSION they all built was not the same as the ones he builds????????


Yes I will repeat.

JOHN looked around and asked did the people there who had built monopoles know that they didn't have everything to do what he was doing here?????


Yes I repeat again.

John looking around the room asked the people that question because the people there who had built monopole units knew that John's build somehow differed.


The magnets were the first thing that came up.


And John STATED (GO GET PART 22 and see for yourself) Do you know why you monopole builders don't have everything????????

JOHN SAID THAT YES!!!!!!!!!!!

ANSWER.


John said this to the audience, "BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ON THESE FORUMS PISSED THE INVENTOR OFF!!!!

Now I don't mean you Dave I know you and that is not something you would ever do SIR You may do some things I disagree with but all in all you are a respectful person so I got to hand it to you.

Okay back to everyone.

@@@@@EVERYONE.

John said!!! THEY PISS OFF THE INVENTOR!!! then John asked "DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU PISS OFF THE INVENTOR??????????

JOHN replied to his own question.

"THE INVENTOR LEAVES"

Now I am ranting.


JOHN went on to show why the monopole builders did not have everything HE JOHN had to make it self sustaining to where it gives more practical amounts of power.

Before I go on let me say that it is an honor to serve you all, I am here to point out what the primary inventor in this time that we live in has STATED and the knowledge in very satisfying.

If you can understand what I am about to relay, you will be among some of the first on these forums to finally get the worm from the mother bird, so to speak.

I wouldn't quite put it that way if I were only speaking to you Dave because I know you are way past most of us when it comes to monopole modifications being a charter member.

Back to @@@EVERYONE.

John stated in PART 22 go watch it for yourself and tell me if you know Johns most inner feelings? After John speaks sometimes you are graced with way more than you planned.

John asked them "DO YOU KNOW WHY YOU DO NOT HAVE MORE FACTS"???

Of course they all shook their heads. So John went on the answer questions.

What about the magnets??? JOHN MADE A STATEMENT.

DO YOU REMEMBER HOWARD JOHNSON?

John Bedini's Magnetic Gate - YouTube

Johns next statement

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE HOWARD JOHNSON DVD SERIES???????

DID ANYONE PAY ANY ATTENTION TO MY TALK ON HOWARD'S Gates????

Let me stop a second and say

@Farmhand
Dave's perfect measurements won't be needed after you here the rest of what John Bedini told the audience. It will be clear.



@@@@EVERYONE.

John went on to answer questions like the spacing of poles and JOHN STATED

NON LINEAR something or another. John showed a picture of the huge steel flywheel of his machine that actually works from 1984????? Hello, ringing any bells???

Why do you think John knew it worked??? Now John didnt say this in his PART 22 but I have heard all of these things somewhere.

Somewhere in his talks over the long years John mentions this guy who had the big wheel from 1984, well John went to see him. He told the man back then how to make it work best.

Now that is me talking.

So John answered questions like WHY ARE THE THREE COIL POLES UNEVENLY SPACED????????

WHY???

Pretty good question. JOHN SAID LOOK AT THE BIG WHEEL IN THE SLIDE SHOW PICTURE. WHAT DO YOU SEE??? John asked WHAT DO YOU SEE???

John shows the poles on the 1984 machine how they were just like his, not perfect linear spaces.


John asked" DOES ANYONE REMEMBER MY TALK ON HOWARD JOHNSON's magnetic gates?

As if to say to the stupid people DO YOU THINK I AM JUST RUNNING MY MOUTH FOR NO REASON???????

On and ON John went about how HIS machines were not like YOUR machines because YOU don't have what HE has to make it self sustaining with any practical OU.

Then he showed the 1984 picture again pointing out the capacitor discharge unit right on that machine way back in 1984.

Then John said that Barium magnets were in and of themselves a free energy source and how he is using them though none of us can get them.

Do I need to repeat that? Go read it again.

However JOHN STATED that we don't have to have Barium magnets to build proper gates.

JOHN SAID neo, rubber, ceramic is what he uses but these machines must be done in a way to shape magnetic fields like Howie did.

JOHN SAID his machines have alot more involved than a simple simon SSG school Girl Bedini Wheel.

You piss off the inventor and he leaves!!!! THOSE ARE JOHN's OWN WORDS.

The people on these forums brutalize each other and that is what I SAY>

John has pointed out many times that he is not a great oratory writer and his text gets butchered and he leaves. Many Times.

SO remember that when you are desiring a more complex version of the monopole, life begins when you learned about WHAT JOHN learned and WHAT JOHN taught about Howard's gates, that we thought John was just filling up his time rattling on about free energy so his DVD collection was bigger.

No NO John is not just filling up space on a piece of vinyl.

Part 22 gives away all of the reasons why the more advanced designs perfected by JOHN work a bit better.

Go study Howy and we will all have a working example of the more advanced monopole before the bell rings for our DEAR FRIENDS John Bedini, Beardon, Lindemann.


What John has in the advanced versions perfected over the long years is a magnetic motor triggered electrically as a magneto charger.

If you do not have both you do not have the advanced Technology.

This is why you see Matthew making these gates in his video. Ask Matt.

Matt is a very sharp boy even though he can be but not always disrespectful.

Thank You for your time and God bless you all.

Mike

[MALEXIOU1]

size of coil

Here is a diagram of the recommended experiment that should be done
first. I think the 3GT (the 3 references the 3 coils) - I think Tony Craddock
came up with that name.

Anyway, with 1 coil perhaps it is a 1GT and S1GT is simplified. Not
simplified in the same way as the SSG but simplified in the way of
not dealing with the regauging motor yet.

@All, it is obvious I don't put food on the table by using graphics
programs so anyone that wants to put this into a single nice drawing
full with 16 magnets on the wheel, etc... go for it! In any case, I think
it is clear enough what the first experiments should be.

Of course the trigger winding that is partially visible on that coil is not
needed - so pretend you don't see that.

@John - if anything needs to be changed for the proposed first
experiment that you already mentioned days ago, let me know.
And if the S1GT nickname makes sense.

what is the size of coil how many turns and what wire

[jettis]

Here is the timing of JB's Ferris wheel in idling mode...

Dave Wing

[Aaron]

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