Bedini Ferris Wheel Regauging Motor

[Armagdn03]

It's all there. but, I said current slowed down. I am not sure about that. it may be more correct to say delayed. But certainly Bearden has talked about fewer electrons that are over potentialized. So it may be like a saw fewer teeth bigger bytes same speed.

As far as the impedance goes can't wait for some input from you. I learned a lot while you were out here on that subject.
Les

A while back you mentioned that you had stuck a magnet on the back of your cores, and noticed a decrease in input, and a visible increase in LED brightness right?

Have you tried adjusting this magnet to bias the core in a region where the largest possible change in permeability occurs when the wheel magnets pass?

Take a single coil, disconnect it from all else, and place an LC meter on it. notice its maximum inductance.

Take the largest magnet you can find and saturate the hell out of it, notice its minimum inductance.

Now bias the core with a magnet on the rear. Note the inductance. Now pas one of the wheel magnets over it slowly and note the minimum inductance you get. Note the difference between biased inductance and biased inductance with magnet from wheel at top dead center with the coil.

Now adjust the biasing magnet and try again, shooting for the greatest possible differential in inductance values, this is now a tuned coil.

Re connect it, and start again with the next coil and so on.

The coils look as if are set up so that the EMF induced in one coil is shuttled to the next as the next has its inductance value changed.

[Les_K]

It's all there. but, I said current slowed down. I am not sure about that. it may be more correct to say delayed. But certainly Bearden has talked about fewer electrons that are over potentialized. So it may be like a saw fewer teeth bigger bytes same speed.

As far as the impedance goes can't wait for some input from you. I learned a lot while you were out here on that subject.
Les

[Armagdn03]

Ok, I think this really applies here. the reason is, it incorporates the things that were discussed by the originators of this list anyway.

There are two parts we have been taught about getting OU from the SSG. one is
voltage, but raising the voltage will do little for you unless you have solved
the other part. The other part is the gradiant or as I call it the slew rate.
The speed at which the voltage goes from 0 volts to 36 (or 12 or what ever your
input voltage is).
There is one more factor I have discovered that we have been told.
It is subtle, but it is, I think the most important.

*** how long can the core hold back current while the potential is at it's peak
value*** This is the key to large OU! It is the BIG and final question! this is
why the MagAmp was so heavily discussed here early on. This is what I would call the
differential. This one is the one to think heavily about. This is what makes it
all happen.

Much of this was discussed here when we started to look at the 3GT coils and realised that the center coil had different sized wire. the SSG has different sized wire one for the trigger and one for the output, but both were interacting. I built a pulser page 46 if you have the book. but I added several extra strands to play with. What I discovered was that any one strand would take almost all the power from the coil. having extra strands did not work by giving you more overall power(this is different with the slave circuit as Kron has an important role in the slave circuit). Also when there was not a load on the output the input or base wire took the hit. this interaction got me to thinking a lot about this.

Next when I saw the coils on the Ferris Wheel I began to see what JB has been talking about with differentials. It seems that when you have two wires in parallel where current flows at different rates across them there is a differential between them. this differential seems to fight with the lenz law all over the place(eddy currents as well). this seems to have the effect of not only grinding lenz law to a halt but to do it by slowing current down in the circuit. The entropic effect is not to dissipate energy as heat but to transfer it to something useful in the system in this case. But then since you have the current slowed as it is, you get the radiant filling in all the gaps. Now as complex as this gets, this is only one interaction in the coil. and there are many that are interacting together with this system.

In an ssg the purpose is different and the energy gained in the system is to be transferred through the Diode and into a battery. but in the BFW something else seems to be happening. we are looking at applying this energy to the core itself. What I see happening here is that the energy is built up and exhausts itself into the core and in conjunction with it's created emp and the magnetic flux like we were talking about patrick, and critical timing (my head begins to spin here because we are talking about the effects of curled space time, gravity, lay lines, moon phases.... etc. etc. and I just can't comprehend all that) a scaler is then output from the core itself towards the center of the rotating wheel. This is one of many reasons there is a difference in using litzed vs non litzed. and why when using the non litzed the Bipolar is the better circuit. Anyway with all that said I don't know what to do with the scaler waves. If I knew how to match the system I could set up an antennae and run my house or something.

Now we see that the BFW is very very complex. But I wanted to keep it simple and as I began to ask those questions I realised I had to start my education all over again. Ok so where do I start. the core itself. what makes the things happen in the core. Yes all the stuff about radus boots and mag amps, but the basics.
To me the core has a few component actions. one; to transfer magnetic flux from the magnet to the windings around the core material. two; to hold a magnetic charge and dissipate that magnetic charge. And how efficiently that is done. what this means is called Remanence flux and Coercivity. The remanance flux is the polarized flux remaining in the core after the excitation has been removed. the magnetising force is called coercivity. and is the amount of magnetizing force needed to bring the remanence flux density back to zero. If we can use a material and magnetic flux density at the right level with the core material then we can reduce this counteractive effort to almost zero. But remember there is an emp created that can also leave remanence.
At this point efficiency is all I am talking about here but that is important before moving on.

Ok this is a lot of material for one post. So I am going to end here for now.
Even so, this is just an outline to get started.

Les

@ les K

I didnt realize this had already been discussed in depth, Ill check it out.

Thanks!

[Les_K]

Core differential

Ok, I think this really applies here. the reason is, it incorporates the things that were discussed by the originators of this list anyway.

There are two parts we have been taught about getting OU from the SSG. one is
voltage, but raising the voltage will do little for you unless you have solved
the other part. The other part is the gradiant or as I call it the slew rate.
The speed at which the voltage goes from 0 volts to 36 (or 12 or what ever your
input voltage is).
There is one more factor I have discovered that we have been told.
It is subtle, but it is, I think the most important.

*** how long can the core hold back current while the potential is at it's peak
value*** This is the key to large OU! It is the BIG and final question! this is
why the MagAmp was so heavily discussed here early on. This is what I would call the
differential. This one is the one to think heavily about. This is what makes it
all happen.

Much of this was discussed here when we started to look at the 3GT coils and realised that the center coil had different sized wire. the SSG has different sized wire one for the trigger and one for the output, but both were interacting. I built a pulser page 46 if you have the book. but I added several extra strands to play with. What I discovered was that any one strand would take almost all the power from the coil. having extra strands did not work by giving you more overall power(this is different with the slave circuit as Kron has an important role in the slave circuit). Also when there was not a load on the output the input or base wire took the hit. this interaction got me to thinking a lot about this.

Next when I saw the coils on the Ferris Wheel I began to see what JB has been talking about with differentials. It seems that when you have two wires in parallel where current flows at different rates across them there is a differential between them. this differential seems to fight with the lenz law all over the place(eddy currents as well). this seems to have the effect of not only grinding lenz law to a halt but to do it by slowing current down in the circuit. The entropic effect is not to dissipate energy as heat but to transfer it to something useful in the system in this case. But then since you have the current slowed as it is, you get the radiant filling in all the gaps. Now as complex as this gets, this is only one interaction in the coil. and there are many that are interacting together with this system.

In an ssg the purpose is different and the energy gained in the system is to be transferred through the Diode and into a battery. but in the BFW something else seems to be happening. we are looking at applying this energy to the core itself. What I see happening here is that the energy is built up and exhausts itself into the core and in conjunction with it's created emp and the magnetic flux like we were talking about patrick, and critical timing (my head begins to spin here because we are talking about the effects of curled space time, gravity, lay lines, moon phases.... etc. etc. and I just can't comprehend all that) a scaler is then output from the core itself towards the center of the rotating wheel. This is one of many reasons there is a difference in using litzed vs non litzed. and why when using the non litzed the Bipolar is the better circuit. Anyway with all that said I don't know what to do with the scaler waves. If I knew how to match the system I could set up an antennae and run my house or something.

Now we see that the BFW is very very complex. But I wanted to keep it simple and as I began to ask those questions I realised I had to start my education all over again. Ok so where do I start. the core itself. what makes the things happen in the core. Yes all the stuff about radus boots and mag amps, but the basics.
To me the core has a few component actions. one; to transfer magnetic flux from the magnet to the windings around the core material. two; to hold a magnetic charge and dissipate that magnetic charge. And how efficiently that is done. what this means is called Remanence flux and Coercivity. The remanance flux is the polarized flux remaining in the core after the excitation has been removed. the magnetising force is called coercivity. and is the amount of magnetizing force needed to bring the remanence flux density back to zero. If we can use a material and magnetic flux density at the right level with the core material then we can reduce this counteractive effort to almost zero. But remember there is an emp created that can also leave remanence.
At this point efficiency is all I am talking about here but that is important before moving on.

Ok this is a lot of material for one post. So I am going to end here for now.
Even so, this is just an outline to get started.

Les

[Armagdn03]

For those who are interested, I have outlined a principle which directly applies to this device in my "charge conserving capacitive spring" thread.

Please begin reading post # 89 on page 3

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6557-charge-conserving-capacitive-spring-3.html#post144396

This outlines concept of a polarized Magnetic Amplifier.

@John Bedini,

Please correct me if this is not applied in your design!

[minoly]

Patrick, I still think it a cool trick to flip the poles no matter how old I get.....Ha ha ha

I think your on to something and this is the basis of many of the questions here. My experiment that I mentioned awakened me to what was said about ED way back, and JB, that if he could make a single pole magnet free energy was easy. Since the magnet I am playing with supports that my thinking had to change about magnets in general.

I think we are all in the same boat, if we did not think it possible there would be no faith to progress. That said are you giving those mags a double pulse?

One last question about this that I have been wondering about.
Does the pole stay flipped? It seemed to me, somewhere, I read that it was a very fast action like a shot. Bam and than back. So should we be looking for a sharp gradient?
Just wondering, but you have got me thinking

Les

Hi Les,
we're all over the place w/ the pulse we give it. At this point we are not doing it by spinning the wheel, we line it up and pulse it manually.

second question is why we need the Barium or correct neo 2 ferrite/ceramic balance, the ceramic alone will not flip back at least not enough or enough times to keep a wheel going.

Patrick

[John_K]

Hi Les,

By all means post it here, it's all relative.

BTW, the coil between the output buss and the battery (aka Tesla Impulse Technology as JB calls it) is very tricky, like all Tesla systems.

You need to tune the coil by having the right wire guage and the correct number of windings to get the node to give you energy for free. By that I mean that you can steal sone energy without affecting the draw current or the secondary charge rate.

I had 5 nodes working at one stage, where I was (slowly) charging another 5 batteries without affecting the primary draw or secondary charge rate. I could've also used the power to run a string of LED's or something similar. It was a very interesting experiment - highly recommended for anyone who wants to try it.

Related to this thread, I thought at one stage that JB was using a node to power the switching for the cap dump on the BFW. Turns out he wasn't, but it can be done when you get everything right.


John K.

[davesw]

[redrichie]

VERY INTERESTED!!
please feel free to talk about this all you wish. Open a new thread for it if you feel it is distracting. With all the bedini tech knowledge behind you how can anyone say no.
I am very interested to see how to "make more magnets with iron".

[Les_K]

Sure, I'll give a synopsis and if it needs to go to monopole or monopole_2 or whatever... we can do that.

the principles:
1- A radiant spike through a coil is Neg-entropic.
2- How can you tell if a coil is producing what you want (Observational).

The first idea is that if I can get a good radiant spike I can increase that energy by way of increased inductive reactance with some impedance matching coils like Daniel Pomerleau. I was told a long time ago to try a small coil between the output battery and the SSG. by John Koorn and others. I now understand this a little(Very little) better(nodes really puzzle me). but the key here is that a piezoelectric junction like an electret or older piezo speaker like the beeper from an old copy machine could be set up to create small continuous radiant spikes. The old ones used barium as a combiner and of course created a lattice that you all know about. They changed that for some reason...any guesses why? and now electrets don;t work like that anymore.

Anyway with this radiant spike and matched impedance coils there is gain in the system.
and you are on your way to a free energy device.....(As I understand it).

My quest then became one of creating the spike. Bedini had given it to us on a platter so to speak. so I just combined some of the general ideas to a few specifics. The real test; and to me was one of the most important; is how well were my coils were doing.
I realised that the spike was the whole ball of wax. So touch them to the battery and watch the spark.

Second and coming to the coil itself was a result of watching JB's videos and chucks on the earth light forum. He had shown some coils. One was wound with copper and the other Iron. When current was applied they manifested opposite poles. I decided to combine the windings as I had seen on several of Tesla's patents and specifically No. 381,970. When I used my observational test I was amazed. it was richer wider and sounded deeper audibly and there was virtually no visible yellow in the spark at all. Every coil I had made to that point had some tinge of yellow along with the bluegreen. And the audible sound was sharper, more of a pop.

The best step to collecting this radiant spike, as far as I can tell, is the half Bipolar circuit.

If that is of interest/value I am happy to continue. Just let me know....

Les
P.S. I was really surprised about how those vids got around so fast even rick has seen them. Not sure what to think about all that.

[redrichie]

Les,
Can you or will you please discuss the video with the iron/copper wrapped coil. Something about that video reminded me of something. Nathan Stubblefield. And his make and break circuit. ANd some of the things im working on right now with coil shorting. Another thread willbe just fine as to not disrupt this one. Or hell, it might be related.

[Les_K]

I should not have thrown out a general term like "I could not get "it" to work"

with the coils we have the wire size and length etc. we can make changes to the neo ceramic combo polarities, just not the changes we want.

we could not flip the polarity enough to have the field pull in the next field then flip back on its own and pull in the following field again.
not as easy to do as it might seem at first. I do believe John can do this, I would not be pursuing if I did not.

I'm sure there is a balance between the neo and the ceramic that I have not found yet. also, I do not have the wheel configured properly yet as mentioned in the DVD.

Patrick

PS my son has been doing that trick of using a neo to flip the polarity of ceramics and "amazing" his friends ever since Rick F. mentioned it years ago. It's very cool stuff, kids and their parents eat it up :-)

Patrick, I still think it a cool trick to flip the poles no matter how old I get.....Ha ha ha

I think your on to something and this is the basis of many of the questions here. My experiment that I mentioned awakened me to what was said about ED way back, and JB, that if he could make a single pole magnet free energy was easy. Since the magnet I am playing with supports that my thinking had to change about magnets in general.

I think we are all in the same boat, if we did not think it possible there would be no faith to progress. That said are you giving those mags a double pulse?

One last question about this that I have been wondering about.
Does the pole stay flipped? It seemed to me, somewhere, I read that it was a very fast action like a shot. Bam and than back. So should we be looking for a sharp gradient?
Just wondering, but you have got me thinking

Les

[minoly]

I should not have thrown out a general term like "I could not get "it" to work"

with the coils we have the wire size and length etc. we can make changes to the neo ceramic combo polarities, just not the changes we want.

we could not flip the polarity enough to have the field pull in the next field then flip back on its own and pull in the following field again.
not as easy to do as it might seem at first. I do believe John can do this, I would not be pursuing if I did not.

I'm sure there is a balance between the neo and the ceramic that I have not found yet. also, I do not have the wheel configured properly yet as mentioned in the DVD.

Patrick

PS my son has been doing that trick of using a neo to flip the polarity of ceramics and "amazing" his friends ever since Rick F. mentioned it years ago. It's very cool stuff, kids and their parents eat it up :-)

[Les_K]

count me in

we are waiting on 18awg, but we have been able to flip the polarity of some smaller ceramic magnets. that would be awesome to have the barium. Someone mentioned that a ceramic w/ a neo on the back might work also, we have not been able to get that to work...

patrick

Patrick,
John bedini made that comment earlier in this list.
I have tried it and seen some weird things happen to my ceramics. I have one that shows all north. There does not seem to be a south pole to it except on the very edges and appears to be only a very small amount of flux. I did this by simply forcing a stong Neo onto the surface of the same pole ceramic, and it changed the ceramic. So when John says you can do it without ceramics and only use Neo's like he does....I think he means it. I have a lot to learn in this area. I don't have DVD 23 yet Perhaps more of this is explained there.


Les

[RS_]

Hi all,

In my excitement about this, I missed this part..

Training and restoring the Universal Microscope will be available at $95 per hour plus any out of pocket expenses should the buyer locate and recover the Universal Microscope.


Sorry, I thought one had been located......

RS