Renaissance November Workshop Convention

[Aaron]

Wow!

WOW!

Was such a pleasure to meet some of the most passionate, incredible,
brilliant and enthusiastic people I could imagine. Will be an experience I'll
remember forever and a very unique event at that.

Finally got a chance to meet so many of the members here face to face
and was such an honor to be part of such an incredible event.
Thanks to all of you that were so kind to introduce yourselves to me
and for all the kind words.

Was also great to see a lot of old friends I haven't seen in a while!

I'm looking forward to hearing about your experience of the conference
and hope to see a LOT of replication builds of some of the concepts that
were shared this weekend!

Will post more later but am running on fumes and have to get some sleep!

[Aaron]

what is electricity?

@Aaron,
Dear Aaron,
With all due respect, I am not attempting to insult you or any other member of this forum. You are all so closed up with your accumulated values that when opposed creates your negative analytic reactions.

I may not be qualified according to your instilled beliefs but my actions is an exact mirror of Nature, disruption.

It is the rapid disruption that allows efficiency and over unity, after all I am learning the open system and care not for the closed system with it's speculative laws that you call electricity.

If it is not too much trouble, would you please clarify the term electricity.

Regards,
electricity.

My response to you is because of the claim that the "hype" is not backed
by a single device and has absolutely nothing to do with myself or anyone
I know being "closed" up.

Yes, open systems is a must but rapid disruption is not required if you
are talking about impulse for example such as a disruptive discharge of
a capacitor. You can use rapid disruption or abrupt discharges as I do
in my "Gray" circuits but that is just one of many means to an end and
that happens automatically in every plasma ignition circuit.

Veljko's mechanical oscillator is a device that is over 1.0 cop. It is easily
duplicatable, it works, and there is more mechanical work being done that is
required to input into it.

The refrigerator in my house that is about 15 feet away from me right now
is probably operating at a cop of about 2.0~4.0 or so, which is "overunity".
Probably, every common refrigerator in the world is "overunity" - certainly
over 1.0 cop, which is nothing special - the heat moves to cold for free.
Convert the watts you draw for the compressor into a btu equivelant and
the btu of heat moved in the refrigerator is MORE than the btu equivelant
in watts you drew in electricity from the wall. This is an indisputable fact
and you can see all the over 1.0 cop devices listed in the department
of energy websites - all heat pumps - geothermal, etc...

Really, overunity is an oxymoron since you are not going to get more
than everything that there is. But it is understood that the intended
meaning is more out than we need to input since there is free input from
the environment. And of course the other distinction is that these devices
are all under 100% efficient (less output than total input - that total
includes our input and free environmental input) - and although under
100% efficient can put out more than we have to input not including free
environmental input so over 1.0 cop can happen.

You said yourself people have to start with understanding what
electricity and magnetism is. Then you just ask for clarification of
the term electricity.

Why not start by posting what your own definition of electricity is -
this is off topic for this thread actually so you could start another
called What is Electricity? or something like that.

[Shanjaq]

This is relevant to my interests!

I've been a lurker here for years, done some tinkering with various circuits like Imhotep's Radiant Oscillator, Stiffler's Exciter, Erfinder's curious rotary switch demonstrator for 568177, and recently a solid-state Bedini circuit using a trifilar coil wound on a K'Nex jig(cheap, consistent results!)
YouTube - trifilar winder test

[Aaron]

Need a ride?

An acquaintance from Georgia will be arriving here at Spokane airport at
about 1130pm or so. He and his girlfriend will have a rental car and is offering
to give a couple people a ride to the resort.

His name is Charles I'll give you his phone number if you private message
me.

If you are going to be at the airport around that time tomorrow night
(Friday at 1130pm) and need a ride, give him a call. I'm guessing with
all the luggage and depending on the vehicle, would have space for
1-3 people.

He is in Georgia, which is Eastern Standard Time I think so if you call,
please wait until tomorrow at a decent hour like after 9am or so in his
time zone.

That was very generous of him to offer and he isn't asking for anything
in return but might be nice to offer up some gas money or something.

[electricity]

Nature of Free Energy

@Aaron,
Dear Aaron,
With all due respect, I am not attempting to insult you or any other member of this forum. You are all so closed up with your accumulated values that when opposed creates your negative analytic reactions.

I may not be qualified according to your instilled beliefs but my actions is an exact mirror of Nature, disruption.

It is the rapid disruption that allows efficiency and over unity, after all I am learning the open system and care not for the closed system with it's speculative laws that you call electricity.

If it is not too much trouble, would you please clarify the term electricity.

Regards,
electricity.

[chasson321]

My scheduled arrival time is 1:22pm Friday. I am renting a compact car car from Thrifty Car Rental.

[Aaron]

misc

I'm excited for everyone that is going to come and the networking will
be incredible as well. It is always pretty magical when
things like this come together and people get to meet when they've
only talked online before.

I don't know much of the content of the other presentations but Peter's
presentation will be spectacular and covers some profound
material that as usual when Peter gives a talk is not easily available or
available at all anywhere else!

John's presentation/demonstration will be quite a trip in a most remarkable
way and you'll want to get as much as you can on both of
their talks. You'll flip on the demo!

Rick is the only other one that I personally know that will of course be
sharing much about the motor/energizers and will be showing some
incredible WORKS OF ART.

The other presenters, I'll be meeting for the first time in person other than
Gordy who does the electric vehicle conversions. He made an electric car
for $5000 (that included the cost of the car and full conversion). That
may not be part of the conference but is an impressive price in my opinion!

I'd probably bring some pens
and a notebook. If you don't bring your own, there are probably some available at the gift shops and other local stores within a few minutes walk from the Hagadon Resort (CDA resort).

Anyone plan on going out on the town after the conference on Sat and Sun night? I'm sure there will be a lot of networking and meet/greet.

Is there anyone that is renting a car and/or taxi that would post the times
you'll be at the Spokane airport where maybe other attendees can split
costs on transportation? If you post what time you'll be at the airport and
what time you plan on driving to CDA, maybe someone can PM you and
split the cost or something. Some people are asking me about carpooling
options.

Here is a pdf map of downtown CDA

http://www.cdadowntown.com/20812/main/Content/ImageLib/documents/downtownmap_100dpi.pdf

About 1.something mb.

Towards the bottom left of the map, you can see that boardwalk around
a resort and a clocktower by it - that is where the conference will be.
That is the longest floating boardwalk in the world.

From there, you can walk to the other side of downtown in 5-10 minutes.

[Matthew Jones]

Well I don't know about anyone else but if I can't video tape it or record it I am surely bringing a notebook and pen.

Matt

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

hi!
just posting how exited i am to get a chance to meet John and Peter.
truly a once in a life time experience. i am just wondering, i understand about not having sell phones and cameras. but is there anything we can/should bring?
ie paper, pencil, laptop. is this strictly a structured agenda lecture event where we just bring our ears or should i bring say one of my humble attraction motor attempts to share with others? also my dad is coming with me as he is very interested in learning about a better way to charge batteries, he has several toyota priouses and extra battery packs which are becoming easier to find used. and we are both interested in adding the benefits of radiant charging to these cells which he has used for any number of alternatives like an extra battery pack for an electric bicycle. will there be any printed material that we can take home with us or do i need to be able to take a lot of notes as i dont like to trust to much to memory alone.

cheers!
Eric

p.s. we will be driving from portland oregon hope it doesnt snow too much!!

Just bring yourselves, open mind, and many questions. We'll try and answer them all. I grew up in Oregon (The Dalles, Corvallias). Have a very safe trip. See you there.

Bit's

[Eric]

hi!
just posting how exited i am to get a chance to meet John and Peter.
truly a once in a life time experience. i am just wondering, i understand about not having sell phones and cameras. but is there anything we can/should bring?
ie paper, pencil, laptop. is this strictly a structured agenda lecture event where we just bring our ears or should i bring say one of my humble attraction motor attempts to share with others? also my dad is coming with me as he is very interested in learning about a better way to charge batteries, he has several toyota priouses and extra battery packs which are becoming easier to find used. and we are both interested in adding the benefits of radiant charging to these cells which he has used for any number of alternatives like an extra battery pack for an electric bicycle. will there be any printed material that we can take home with us or do i need to be able to take a lot of notes as i dont like to trust to much to memory alone.

cheers!
Eric

p.s. we will be driving from portland oregon hope it doesnt snow too much!!

[kippered]

Please stop acting like you're here to learn anything as you already haveit all figured out.

That about says it all

It always amazes me that on every message board I have ever been part of there are always people who dont believe in what you are up to and still feel the need to try and impose their 2 cents upon you. Discrediting others will never change their mind unless you are someone that has very strong credentials in the specific area of discussion and can show the hands on experimental data that backes up the point. Still after all that open debate should be encouraged.

Why waste your time on people you think are wasting time move on and be happy that you are on the path that works for you.

[Aaron]

don't give up your day job

This site has an amazing audiance. Global coverage too with impressive Alexa rating. Too bad there's not a single physical devise to back up the hype!.

Don't give up your day job mr or ms disinformation - you haven't the eyes to
see what is in front of you and there are multiple devices over 1.0 cop
and you're not even qualified to be a skeptic - that is how flawed your
analysis is.

If you want to continue to disrespect and insult the members here, you
might as well leave as you have nothing to learn since you come to a
conversation from a conclusion.

Please stop acting like you're here to learn anything as you already have
it all figured out.

[electricity]

Well I for one cannot wait for Saturday!

I have many questions that WILL get answered because if they are not the answers that I am looking for I will learn just as much.

The price is a small one to pay considering I will learn in one weekend what it would otherwise take me a year plus and lots of money to figure out on my own. I am still in the research phase and am looking for direction be it towards Bedini systems or another direction.



It will be informative and a great cause for original thought regardless of the outcome

happy learning y'all.

they leaders don't seem to knoe the answers to my simple questions, as they say, God sped.

the local comedy will be more worthier entertainment for my 2 cents

[kippered]

Well I for one cannot wait for Saturday!

I have many questions that WILL get answered because if they are not the answers that I am looking for I will learn just as much.

The price is a small one to pay considering I will learn in one weekend what it would otherwise take me a year plus and lots of money to figure out on my own. I am still in the research phase and am looking for direction be it towards Bedini systems or another direction.

It will be informative and a great cause for original thought regardless of the outcome

[minoly]

minoly,
I watched, and it looks good. With batteries it is always hard to tell. You have to see what the resting voltage drops to after they have been allowed to sit for a while. Keep up the great work. Others are ALWAYS watching when you take the trouble to post, even if they don't acknowledge it.

Hi Turion,
thanks for the comment. please note what I wrote.
these are not floating voltages.
we only did a short 20 minute video for youtube show. we have tested, drained, re-energized, and documented these batteries, for a long time now.
I have explained how we did this on the Bedini monopole 2 group at yahoo. come read all about it...
YouTube - 3 Pole Monopole Part 1
YouTube - 3 Pole Monopole Part 2.