Bedini SG

[ABCStore]

Slightly off-topic question: how do you, guys, measure high voltage spikes on a scope? I mean do you temporarily take neon off? Because otherwise I only see ~80v, as expected... On the other hand, I know spikes go way higher because 400v capacitor jumps to 250-300v in only a few seconds.

ABC

[Aaron]

battery efficiency

Jetijs,

I saw this over and over at John's shop. I think it is easier to see on larger battery banks since little differences are magnified compared to small differences with small battery comparisons.

This was one of the things I was hoping Sephiroth would see with his automatic load draining circuit he put together.

[Jetijs]

If I recall correctly, Peter once said, that they were charging golf cart batteries every night after a whole day of use. They used a radiant charger for this. And on the next day the batteries were used in golf carts. Only on sundays the batteries were left alone. And every monday morning there were problems with the battery capacity, it could perform less work. So the increased capacity effect of the batteries does not last for long time. Of course after a new radiant charge the battery becomes alive again. This might also be the case here. I have observed something similar with my recovered battery.

[theremart]

Quick Discharge rate...

Hi theremart why is it that when I charge the batteries with bedini hold the charge for one day then discharge immediatetly?
It's happening all the time.

Much depends on the type of battery being charged, the SSG seems to work best with lead acid batteries. That being said, several other factors are at play. The thickness of the plates are a major factor, for you high amp hour batteries to charge them in a reasonable amount of time you will probably need about 3 amp on the Bedini to charge them well so they load well I find this about the bare starting point for my golf cart batteries to get a decent charge. That being said, if you do move up to more amps it is time to move up to more transistors, and heavier pots. The low wattage pots will fry if you try to pump sizable amps to them.

As i have pointed out, I recommend the solid state Jetijs circuit for charging large amp hour batteries. ( see other solid state forum here )

As always check your electrolite levels... and clean your battery terminals so that you are getting a good connection to the battery.

The SSG cannot fix batteries that are physically broken inside or have warped plates. It normally takes many cycles to get a battery back up to par. Some batteries are not worth the effort, realize it may take 30 - 40 cycles to get back to par, some have found replacing the electrolyte has helped, but always a gamble with older batteries.

[Guruji]

Batteries

Hi theremart why is it that when I charge the batteries with bedini hold the charge for one day then discharge immediatetly?
It's happening all the time.

[ABCStore]

Hi theremart!

The reason I was asking is this is happening to one battery only. The rest of them just charge, going up more or less.

The software came with the meter from Radio Shack, model 22-812
PC Interface 46-Range Digital Multimeter - RadioShack.com
Pretty decent unit, I might add.

ABC

[theremart]

RE: battery charging

Guys,

I'm trying to bring an old 160CCA tractor battery back to life. What could cause this anomaly in charging? Every graph starts with a period of discharging and then I charge it on Bedini fan.

ABC

Hi,

If you look at the Bedini replications on Peswiki, you will find the same thing happening of the drop in voltage then rise. My theory from reading multiple accounts, and watching Energy from the Vacuum 2, is that the sulfur on the plates is coming off, which makes room for more charge thus you have a drop in voltage. This same set of events has been seen on the other replications detailed at this link:

Directory:Bedini SG:Replications - PESWiki


The rest of the battery charging curve look just like mine it seems to rise mid way then skyrocket to the top voltage.

The real test is the load test afterword, as how many amps hours you can get out of the battery.

Thanks for sharing!

P.S. Where did you get your meter software, looks interesting.

[ABCStore]

Guys,

I'm trying to bring an old 160CCA tractor battery back to life. What could cause this anomaly in charging? Every graph starts with a period of discharging and then I charge it on Bedini fan.

ABC

[Inquorate]

No pickup diode, only neon. Very interesting effect.

YouTube - crazy purple flash staccato

YouTube - pendulum push coil tuned up

These videos are relevant to many discussions I've had on different threads. Hope no-one minds me cross posting :-)

[Joit]

There are not really any Recommendations for the Magnets and Coils, it mostly works, when you got a Rotor 2 coils and a Transistor.
Its even possible, to build it up in Solid State, when it use the EM Field to work.
But mostly they work good enough, that you can be happy.
All you can do is, to tune around at it, to find more out about it.

I found the same with the recharable too, they are more crap then normal Batteries.
There you see, how we get fooled, Peoples buy Accus, to save Money,
and they are faster damaged, as normal ones, or for the relation to the Price, the same Time.
But right now, i try a new Accupack, and did load them with the Bedini,
what did not work to well, first time, they got good Power, second Time, they only had very short Time Power.
Mistake, i should have had to charge them first up normally, to put Electrons in.
But anyway, after the 3rd Load, i put them at a Charger, and they seems hold the Energy well again. But they are still on Test.
Its maybe not wrong too, to bring them first into another condition, and then charge them up.

And well, about the Schoolgirl Motor, the Batteries only been empty after 4 Days,
all you have to do then, is to switch them with full ones, and charge them new up


And @All, btw, did anyone seen, that at some Pictures the Bedini Circuit had a Inductive Coil for charging the Batts?
At the other Coil there been 2 other Coils, one Trigger one Power,
where one Coil was connected directly to the Batt.
Reminds me at the Newman, to charge up the Run batt.
I still play around, and saw, that a close inductive Coil give 2 Spikes,
one at Connect, one at disconnect from the Transistor/Reedswitch,
when the Timing is right.

[docbob]

SG motor

I thought the school girl motor ran on alkaline batteries for 4 1/2 days? Do the batteries heat up before they break - mine never get hot. hmm... The rechargeable ones really suck for time. Thanks as always!

[docbob]

Gauss & magnet size

Does anybody have some scale of rotor radius to quantity of magnets to gauss strength? Thanks!!

ps bedini seems to twist his cables - like twisted pair ethernet stuff - comments?

[Inquorate]

@ Redeagle

Thanks for the ground verification. Your tesla battery car project is what brought ne to this site in the first place. Small world.

[redeagle]

@ inquorate the ground wire on the charging side negative makes my ignition coils "single wire" charge much faster. Haven't tried an antenna yet, but i will eventually since i'm working on replicating tesla's antenna and 12v battery powered car.But without the vacuum tubes. if i get it working i'll be doing my minibike first for a start.

[redeagle]

@ doc make sure your batteries are rechargeable of what ever type they are. Alkaline batteries produce hydrogen and oxygen in them when charged. two high of voltage and boom. But as far as bedini's batteries crystalizing is because once they receive a full charge they start to perfrom electrolysis in them. they were probably gel cells meaning that once they are gone they are gone. That's one of the reasons that they say to use flooded deepcycles.